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ProfessorPlum

(11,253 posts)
Mon Sep 3, 2018, 06:25 PM Sep 2018

What interests are Trump voters voting for?

It's been said often (I've said it quite often) that Republican voters are voting against their own economic self-interest. One hypothesis is if you could explain this to them in a way they understood, they would start to vote for more money for themselves.

However, a compelling argument I've been reading about lately says that Trump/GOP voters aren't voting against their economic interests so much as they are voting FOR (what they perceive are) their "racial" interest.

In other words, voting for an explicit racist wins them points somehow in their brains. this phenomenon has been seen before, as in the union movements of the early 20th century when racial solidarity in the face of capital broke down because white workers couldn't get over race.

So, in my world, I would vote for better economics for myself and my fellow workers, and more racial harmony.

My conservative relatives vote against their economic health and mine, plus they create a world filled with racial injustice, tension, and strife.

What a great world they are creating - poor and bigoted, versus more shared wealth and racial harmony.

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What interests are Trump voters voting for? (Original Post) ProfessorPlum Sep 2018 OP
They are voting against whatever liberals are voting for. The Velveteen Ocelot Sep 2018 #1
They votes for validation of their ignorance. He spoke their language and did just that. tonyt53 Sep 2018 #2
They are sick in the head ProudLib72 Sep 2018 #3
They are culture voters who are driven by hate Quemado Sep 2018 #4
the theory is that they vote "for" what they perceive as their racial interests ProfessorPlum Sep 2018 #7
Exactly. They don't vote "for" anything. They vote against. smirkymonkey Sep 2018 #20
It certainly is an interesting aspect Hav Sep 2018 #5
They are voting because they want to "trigger" the "snowflakes". Initech Sep 2018 #6
...anything and everything that is anti immigration and pro racism. BigmanPigman Sep 2018 #8
with trump mercuryblues Sep 2018 #9
+1000 WA-03 Democrat Sep 2018 #10
The very slogan "Make America Great Again" is racist, so of course there Doodley Sep 2018 #11
"...they would start to vote for more money for themselves. " AncientGeezer Sep 2018 #12
Most of the Trump supporters I know ProfessorPlum Sep 2018 #14
Really..'cause I live in NY and know a ton of them that did.. AncientGeezer Sep 2018 #15
tax cut receivers make up a small portion of Trump supporters ProfessorPlum Sep 2018 #16
They are lying treestar Sep 2018 #18
I've seen the pay stubs.... AncientGeezer Sep 2018 #19
Trumpers Vote for Their Values dlk Sep 2018 #13
Their white skins. VOX Sep 2018 #17
Whatever makes us Libtards unhappy. Codeine Sep 2018 #21

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,588 posts)
1. They are voting against whatever liberals are voting for.
Mon Sep 3, 2018, 06:29 PM
Sep 2018

That's what they care about - screw the libs, even if it screws them too.

Quemado

(1,262 posts)
4. They are culture voters who are driven by hate
Mon Sep 3, 2018, 06:39 PM
Sep 2018

So, they don't necessarily vote "for" an interest. They are more inclined to be driven by hate, like:

Anti-gay marriage
Anti-abortion
Anti-immigrant
Anti-ACA
Anti-non white people

ProfessorPlum

(11,253 posts)
7. the theory is that they vote "for" what they perceive as their racial interests
Mon Sep 3, 2018, 06:46 PM
Sep 2018

but the dumb part is what they perceive those to be.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
20. Exactly. They don't vote "for" anything. They vote against.
Wed Sep 5, 2018, 09:17 PM
Sep 2018

They vote out of hate and resentment. They believe in nothing positive. They just want to destroy everything that liberals stand for.

Hav

(5,969 posts)
5. It certainly is an interesting aspect
Mon Sep 3, 2018, 06:39 PM
Sep 2018

Some vote for what is in their best interests while others would rather vote against the interests of others. For example, what incentive do I have to take away someone else's healthcare? What do I gain when families get torn apart?

Initech

(100,038 posts)
6. They are voting because they want to "trigger" the "snowflakes".
Mon Sep 3, 2018, 06:45 PM
Sep 2018

They really don't care about anything else.

mercuryblues

(14,522 posts)
9. with trump
Mon Sep 3, 2018, 06:53 PM
Sep 2018

it was straight up racism under the guise of "economic anxiety."


We were at almost full employment and working on wages rising. Clinton would have done some modest tweak's to the economy and budget. She had several proposed + detailed policies that have been proven to work.

- trumpers voted for "trust me" it will be the best, so much winning! From a man who filed for bankruptcy 7 times. Ripped off employees and a sham university that was designed to rip off people.

Doodley

(9,038 posts)
11. The very slogan "Make America Great Again" is racist, so of course there
Mon Sep 3, 2018, 07:00 PM
Sep 2018

is a large racial element. Trump can only Make America Great Again if it isn't already great. The "again" implies it was great before. So what was not great about it that could only be fixed by voting for the most racist GOP candidate? Obama. Trump may as well have have used the slogan: "Make America White Again."

 

AncientGeezer

(2,146 posts)
12. "...they would start to vote for more money for themselves. "
Mon Sep 3, 2018, 08:31 PM
Sep 2018

Isn't that what happened though? They voted for tax cuts and got 'em.
It's money in their pockets.....frigs the rest of us but they got more.

ProfessorPlum

(11,253 posts)
16. tax cut receivers make up a small portion of Trump supporters
Tue Sep 4, 2018, 05:43 AM
Sep 2018

just as they are a small portion of the population at large.

As you say, it's quite obvious why people like that would vote for Trump - it literally is in their economic interest, unlike so many others.

dlk

(11,513 posts)
13. Trumpers Vote for Their Values
Mon Sep 3, 2018, 08:39 PM
Sep 2018

Values win out over economic self-interest for them. Emotion wins out over logic and facts.

 

Codeine

(25,586 posts)
21. Whatever makes us Libtards unhappy.
Wed Sep 5, 2018, 09:22 PM
Sep 2018

They’re literally so broken and rudderless, so lost and unhinged that their only driving energies are spite and barely-sublimated rage. The death throes of a expiring philosophy will not be pretty, but hope lies beyond.

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