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Zina Bash gave the "White Power" symbol while sitting behind Kavanaugh. (Original Post) Cattledog Sep 2018 OP
And Kavanaugh knew and approved. Eliot Rosewater Sep 2018 #1
I thought it was gonna be... mitch96 Sep 2018 #19
She didn't tho Loki Liesmith Sep 2018 #2
LOL! Squinch Sep 2018 #9
So what is that pose supposed to mean? Kingofalldems Sep 2018 #31
Why does it have to mean anything? SharonClark Sep 2018 #35
Here is the video Gothmog Sep 2018 #3
That's footage of something but not the Ok/supposed wp sign Hav Sep 2018 #17
I agree, I'm sure she understand she'll be on every tv in the country Demonaut Sep 2018 #25
Wonder if Kavenaugh appreciates that shit from Zina behind him? Cha Sep 2018 #20
I do not believe it was an inadvertent hand position. NT Progressive Law Sep 2018 #4
No. Sorry. sheshe2 Sep 2018 #8
LOL, I tried it too. greatauntoftriplets Sep 2018 #11
Hey! sheshe2 Sep 2018 #14
I had a doctor appointment and then a blood test so missed more than half of it. greatauntoftriplets Sep 2018 #18
You can also watch her face. She is looking directly at the camera and smirking. Midnight Writer Sep 2018 #37
#ZinaBash receives a text message and is immediately seen flashing the #WhitePower Gothmog Sep 2018 #5
It seems like someone texted her and madaboutharry Sep 2018 #12
Smirks then flashes the sign. sheshe2 Sep 2018 #15
She smiled a couple of times. Roland99 Sep 2018 #23
These people are sick. joshcryer Sep 2018 #26
She knew it was a signal. dalton99a Sep 2018 #43
Supposedly she's Hispanic and Jewish so it's impossible for her to be racist, ergo no she didn't. RockRaven Sep 2018 #6
Which we know is BullShit. Cha Sep 2018 #13
Stephen Miller is Jewish. He's an asshat white supremacist Roland99 Sep 2018 #22
Roseanne is Jewish NickB79 Sep 2018 #38
Zina Bash is a troll Orangepeel Sep 2018 #7
That's not a random resting position. Bull fucking shit. Roland99 Sep 2018 #10
Yes. ol Zina is displaying it. It takes an effort to make that circle with Cha Sep 2018 #16
A 4chan prank Bernardo de La Paz Sep 2018 #21
Yeah, the origins are 4chan but they're obviously channeling it. joshcryer Sep 2018 #28
Yup. That seems to be the Q cult in a nutshell. But hard to know the Q motive. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Sep 2018 #29
Honestly I though it signified The Three Percent group. Midnight Writer Sep 2018 #39
She was just picking at some dry skin ProudLib72 Sep 2018 #24
May have been picking a bug off her arm? whathehell Sep 2018 #32
Her husband is a U.S. Attorney Grasswire2 Sep 2018 #27
WAITAMINNIT! What we know is that she looked at her phone and then gave the OK, White Power, or... TreasonousBastard Sep 2018 #30
The white wing racists were out in force, but I really think she was picking at a boil or something. Hoyt Sep 2018 #33
I agree. I don't find the claims that she was making a gesture convincing at all. LisaL Sep 2018 #34
I agree, her thumb is actually not in the right position. Her thumb is arching up and her nail is Quixote1818 Sep 2018 #41
Popping a whitehead Blue Owl Sep 2018 #42
She's a nazi stooge samir.g Sep 2018 #36
Perhaps rockfordfile Sep 2018 #40

mitch96

(13,816 posts)
19. I thought it was gonna be...
Tue Sep 4, 2018, 08:07 PM
Sep 2018

"I'm Brett Kavanaugh and I approved this message"

In retaliation I approve THIS message...
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Hav

(5,969 posts)
17. That's footage of something but not the Ok/supposed wp sign
Tue Sep 4, 2018, 08:06 PM
Sep 2018

It's not even close to it. If she wanted to do it, she did it wrong.

sheshe2

(83,319 posts)
8. No. Sorry.
Tue Sep 4, 2018, 07:48 PM
Sep 2018

I mimicked it, it was awkward, unnatural and frankly hurt my hand.

That was no inadvertent hand position.

greatauntoftriplets

(175,694 posts)
11. LOL, I tried it too.
Tue Sep 4, 2018, 07:51 PM
Sep 2018

That's not a natural way to hold you hand. It was extremely awkward and uncomfortable.

sheshe2

(83,319 posts)
14. Hey!
Tue Sep 4, 2018, 08:01 PM
Sep 2018

I tried it several times, both hands and yep, very very uncomfortable. Inadvertent, my ass! I watched some of it today and she was hard to miss sitting behind Brett boy. She was smirking and making other faces throughout the day and flipping her hair around. 'Look At Me!'

Good to see you, gaot~

greatauntoftriplets

(175,694 posts)
18. I had a doctor appointment and then a blood test so missed more than half of it.
Tue Sep 4, 2018, 08:07 PM
Sep 2018

At least I did get to see the fireworks this morning when the Democrats tried mightily to get an adjournment. And when I got home, there was Condoleezza Rice sitting behind him as if to say he knows African-American people.

Good to see you too!

joshcryer

(62,265 posts)
26. These people are sick.
Tue Sep 4, 2018, 09:43 PM
Sep 2018

It's obviously not a real thing but they're meming and making it a thing, just because it works as a genius distraction. Look at all the threads about it. It's fucking genius.

RockRaven

(14,782 posts)
6. Supposedly she's Hispanic and Jewish so it's impossible for her to be racist, ergo no she didn't.
Tue Sep 4, 2018, 07:45 PM
Sep 2018

Supposedly.

Cha

(295,899 posts)
16. Yes. ol Zina is displaying it. It takes an effort to make that circle with
Tue Sep 4, 2018, 08:04 PM
Sep 2018

with your thumb and finger.

Bernardo de La Paz

(48,773 posts)
21. A 4chan prank
Tue Sep 4, 2018, 08:23 PM
Sep 2018

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OK_(gesture)#Negative_connotation
In February of 2017, users on the anonymous imageboard /pol/ of 4chan set out on a prank to convince mainstream media outlets that the OK hand gesture had been hijacked for use by white supremacists to signal one another publicly[6]. The pranksters claimed that the three upward fingers of the OK hand sign represented the letter “W” while the circle formed by joining of the index finger to the thumb leading down the arm represented the letter "P". The acronym formed by "W" and "P" was asserted to be shorthand for “White Power.” The original thread produced infographics explaining this usage concisely, which were subsequently spread to many different media outlets according to the Anti-Defamation League (ADL). The hoax began to gain traction when media outlets began reporting on the usage of the OK gesture as if it were, in fact, being used as a white supremacist hand gesture[7]. Most of these media outlets have since recanted their statements, citing the official response from the ADL. The ADL has confirmed that the OK gesture is not a white supremacist hand sign[8].

However, while the "OK" sign as a specific white power symbol was found to be a 4chan prank, it has been used as a gesture of identification among members of the white nationalist alt-right movement[9]. When asked about use of the "OK" sign, Alt-Right celebrity Lauren Southern said, “We just say ‘do the thing’ and everyone knows what you're talking about.” She linked use of the "OK" sign by the Alt-Right community to a gesture commonly used by United States President Donald Trump.[10]. In July 2018, four Alabama police officers were suspended for being photographed making the hand gesture, since changing the uncertainty of the acceptable use of the sign.[11] As controversy over use of the sign becomes increasingly widespread in the U.S., ironic use by such far-right groups may become increasly prevalent, requiring an honest assessment of how misinformation can influence real-world sociocultural relationships.

joshcryer

(62,265 posts)
28. Yeah, the origins are 4chan but they're obviously channeling it.
Tue Sep 4, 2018, 09:46 PM
Sep 2018

There are people sitting around in PR rooms right now discussing various weird shit they can do to get people talking. Because if people are talking about random ass stupid shit then they're not talking about actual issues.

Midnight Writer

(21,540 posts)
39. Honestly I though it signified The Three Percent group.
Wed Sep 5, 2018, 12:16 AM
Sep 2018

The Three Percenters are based on the belief that three percent of our forefathers, all white, all Christian, all male, were responsible for winning the Revolutionary War, writing the Constitution, and creating United States of America.

Grasswire2

(13,564 posts)
27. Her husband is a U.S. Attorney
Tue Sep 4, 2018, 09:43 PM
Sep 2018

Even if she did it as a prank, she should know that she exhibited (at best) seriously juvenile and insensitive behavior.

TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
30. WAITAMINNIT! What we know is that she looked at her phone and then gave the OK, White Power, or...
Tue Sep 4, 2018, 09:50 PM
Sep 2018

Snagged You sign.

She could have gotten a text, email, voicemail to text, or something else, like a short video or cartoon.

I have tried sitting down and moving my right hand to my left forearm, making the OK sign and it was slightly unnatural, but not at all difficult. I heard there are structural differences between male and female arms which might make it more or less difficult for that to be a resting position for her, but I am not sure about that.

Most of the commentary has been right wingnuts yelling about left wingnuts complaining that the granddaughter of Holocaust victims is somehow a White Power nutcase.

So, it seems to me that the simplest explanation is that she got a message of some sort on the phone, and not being able to talk at the hearing, or send reply texts, she simply acknowledged whatever was said on the phone.

So, what was said and who said it?

We don't know. Could have been confirming a dinner date, or saying the fix was in.



 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
33. The white wing racists were out in force, but I really think she was picking at a boil or something.
Tue Sep 4, 2018, 10:29 PM
Sep 2018

I suppose it feels good considering the mess we are in to say such junk, but don’t think it really helps us.

LisaL

(44,962 posts)
34. I agree. I don't find the claims that she was making a gesture convincing at all.
Tue Sep 4, 2018, 10:31 PM
Sep 2018

I don't think this helps anyone.

Quixote1818

(28,903 posts)
41. I agree, her thumb is actually not in the right position. Her thumb is arching up and her nail is
Wed Sep 5, 2018, 12:42 AM
Sep 2018

digging into her arm. If I take my thumbnail as though I am scratching at my arm, I find my index finger naturally goes into that ok position but my thumbnail needs to be digging into my arm like hers was. I also don't think she would know how much of her arm was showing and at what angle the camera was even if someone did text her that information. If she had done that two inches over it would have been out of sight.

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