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ansible

(1,718 posts)
Tue Sep 4, 2018, 11:18 PM Sep 2018

$400K raised on GoFunMe for homeless veteran hero is gone, couple spent the rest of it: lawyer



A kindhearted homeless veteran who helped a stranded woman with gas money has been left “devastated” after learning that a nearly half-million-dollar fortune he got through GoFundMe is gone, a lawyer for the man revealed Tuesday. Johnny Bobbitt, a Philadelphia vagrant, only received about $75,000 cash, a camper and a 19-year-old pick-up, out of some $400,000 raised for him by Kate McClure and Mark D’Amico.

The couple got the money from some 14,000 online donors, who were moved by the story of Bobbitt giving McClure his last $20 to help her fill up her tank on I-95 earlier this year. Chris Fallon, an attorney for Bobbitt, said that the couple informed him through their lawyers Tuesday that the rest of the cash was now gone.

“Shocked. Shocked,” Fallon said of when he learned about the fund, telling NJ.com that Bobbitt was “devastated.” They raised this money to help Johnny Bobbitt get money for food.”

Bobbitt has accused the couple of mismanaging the money that was raised in his name — as they have responded by saying they have not misused the money and do not want to give him large sums of cash for fear he will spend it on drugs. Bobbitt had filed suit in New Jersey to get the cash, prompting a judge last week to order the couple to hand over the rest of the money. There was no immediate word on what had been done with the rest of the $400,000. McClure and D’Amico’s attorney, Ernest Badway, told the Associated Press they have no comment.

https://nypost.com/2018/09/04/400k-raised-for-homeless-hero-is-gone-lawyer/
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$400K raised on GoFunMe for homeless veteran hero is gone, couple spent the rest of it: lawyer (Original Post) ansible Sep 2018 OP
The guy got 75k in cash and other stuff? Hummm...sounds like greed on both sides. brush Sep 2018 #1
Still they lied and stole more than three times that amount. bettyellen Sep 2018 #2
Good point, but Rorey Sep 2018 #3
Seriously??? Ms. Toad Sep 2018 #5
"They should have split the money"? NanceGreggs Sep 2018 #7
Valid point. 400k though? If I was broke and someone raised that amount... brush Sep 2018 #8
When somebody raises it for you, you can share. LisaL Sep 2018 #13
For sure there were shenanigans with the money, but from what I understand... brush Sep 2018 #20
Didn't He Already Do His Good Deed? ProfessorGAC Sep 2018 #17
Like I said, that's just me. How many are ever going to get 400k in cash? brush Sep 2018 #21
Perhaps ProfessorGAC Sep 2018 #22
I agree with that. brush Sep 2018 #23
I believe in the GoFundMe they said they would set up a trust. tammywammy Sep 2018 #25
I doubt it's just you. LanternWaste Sep 2018 #32
Absolutely. brush Sep 2018 #34
The American cancer society collects money for... dubyadiprecession Sep 2018 #28
It's called fraud. Adrahil Sep 2018 #31
I can't argue with you. Another poster responded to my suggestion for both parties working out... brush Sep 2018 #33
Theft aeromanKC Sep 2018 #4
I agree. Jail time is in order. 3Hotdogs Sep 2018 #6
Perhaps the IRS will help them sort that out. ooky Sep 2018 #10
Yeah, there aught to be a $60,000 IRS bill attached to what they stole. 3Hotdogs Sep 2018 #15
It is "GoFundMe". "GoFunMe" sounds like a sex toy. scheming daemons Sep 2018 #9
These idiots need to be prosecuted and put in jail Gothmog Sep 2018 #11
Sadly there are lot of scammers that claim they are helping the homeless. KWR65 Sep 2018 #12
I'm always dubious of these pop-up gofundme camoaigns Lee-Lee Sep 2018 #14
They should be charged with fraud or theft or something. This is no different than Vinca Sep 2018 #16
Total BS,that money is not "gone". What did they do,spend it all at McDonalds? Bengus81 Sep 2018 #18
Homeless guy accused them of spending money on vacations and a new BMW. LisaL Sep 2018 #19
That's still about 200k unaccounted. Unless they hit casinos. 3Hotdogs Sep 2018 #24
Aside from not reporting taxable revenue... brooklynite Sep 2018 #26
Sadly, this will not help other legitimate causes. Makes people reluctant to trust Gofundme. dameatball Sep 2018 #27
UPDATE: N.J couple in $400K dispute with homeless vet no-shows court hearing, may take 5th ansible Sep 2018 #29
Sounds like they're going to Jay-uhl. Iggo Sep 2018 #30

brush

(53,758 posts)
1. The guy got 75k in cash and other stuff? Hummm...sounds like greed on both sides.
Tue Sep 4, 2018, 11:24 PM
Sep 2018

They should've split the money.

But the guy was broke and got 75k...wish I had 75K.

Rorey

(8,445 posts)
3. Good point, but
Tue Sep 4, 2018, 11:29 PM
Sep 2018

The people who donated to the GoFundMe account intended for their donation to go to the homeless veteran, not the couple. It sounds like they're not just greedy. They're thieves.

Ms. Toad

(34,055 posts)
5. Seriously???
Tue Sep 4, 2018, 11:36 PM
Sep 2018

His name and story were used to raise money to support him. The couple withheld the money people donated specifically for him - apparently on paternalistic theory that they know better than him what he needs.

From my perspective, not only should he be suing - but so should everyone who donated the money for his assistance. The money was not the couple's to control or use for themselves.

NanceGreggs

(27,813 posts)
7. "They should have split the money"?
Tue Sep 4, 2018, 11:41 PM
Sep 2018

When someone donates money to any charitable cause, they do not do so on the basis that those raising the money are going to "split it" with the recipient for whom the funds were intended.

"Hi! I'm raising money for the Cancer Society. Please donate what you can - and I'll 'split it' with them."

When was the last time you heard that pitch - and donated money anyway?

brush

(53,758 posts)
8. Valid point. 400k though? If I was broke and someone raised that amount...
Tue Sep 4, 2018, 11:45 PM
Sep 2018

I'd want to share it with them. But that's just me.

LisaL

(44,972 posts)
13. When somebody raises it for you, you can share.
Wed Sep 5, 2018, 06:08 AM
Sep 2018

As for this money, people donated for the homeless veteran. Promises were made that the veteran was going to get a home, and money will be put into trust funds for him.
Now we find out there is no money left, and homeless veteran is still homeless.

brush

(53,758 posts)
20. For sure there were shenanigans with the money, but from what I understand...
Wed Sep 5, 2018, 10:02 AM
Sep 2018

Last edited Wed Sep 5, 2018, 10:39 AM - Edit history (1)

he got 75k in cash. He shouldn't still be homeless.

ProfessorGAC

(64,951 posts)
17. Didn't He Already Do His Good Deed?
Wed Sep 5, 2018, 07:55 AM
Sep 2018

Isn't that what all this was about? He was the good samaritan, already.

Sharing it because someone got other people to donate money due to his kind act? And he should share it?

I'm not following the logic here, Brush.

brush

(53,758 posts)
21. Like I said, that's just me. How many are ever going to get 400k in cash?
Wed Sep 5, 2018, 10:07 AM
Sep 2018

Last edited Wed Sep 5, 2018, 02:15 PM - Edit history (1)

I get all the posts saying the people should go to jail and all, and you're probably right if the couple didn't broach some kind of arrangement with the vet.

Selfishness kicked in.

With that kind of windfall seems some kind of agreement could've been worked out.

ProfessorGAC

(64,951 posts)
22. Perhaps
Wed Sep 5, 2018, 10:09 AM
Sep 2018

I guess i could buy 5 or 10% as a "broker" fee. But, they ended up with 81.25% of it. That seems wrong, on its face.

tammywammy

(26,582 posts)
25. I believe in the GoFundMe they said they would set up a trust.
Wed Sep 5, 2018, 01:28 PM
Sep 2018

They were raising money for him. They had no right to keep any of it with out his agreement.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
32. I doubt it's just you.
Wed Sep 5, 2018, 02:11 PM
Sep 2018

I imagine many people would share, but many would also avoid the self-righteous advertising of how noble they are in contrast to the people they criticize.

 

Adrahil

(13,340 posts)
31. It's called fraud.
Wed Sep 5, 2018, 02:05 PM
Sep 2018

If they raised the money on the premise they would use to benefit of this man, but spent it on themselves, they committed fraud.

I mean $75k is great... but where is the test of it?

brush

(53,758 posts)
33. I can't argue with you. Another poster responded to my suggestion for both parties working out...
Wed Sep 5, 2018, 02:12 PM
Sep 2018

a sharing arrangement by suggesting the couple, in such an arrangement, would get a ten percent finders fee but the rest should go to the vet.

That sounds reasonable to me.

aeromanKC

(3,322 posts)
4. Theft
Tue Sep 4, 2018, 11:33 PM
Sep 2018

Pretty sure this is a Felony amount. Also class action lawsuit from those who donated. This couple should do jail time.

3Hotdogs

(12,358 posts)
6. I agree. Jail time is in order.
Tue Sep 4, 2018, 11:41 PM
Sep 2018

Still. It seems like 300k is missing. There must have been stuff that was purchased that can be sold.

3Hotdogs

(12,358 posts)
15. Yeah, there aught to be a $60,000 IRS bill attached to what they stole.
Wed Sep 5, 2018, 07:07 AM
Sep 2018

Unfortunately, our homeless friend also has a $13,000 IRS bill which he probably didn't account for.

KWR65

(1,098 posts)
12. Sadly there are lot of scammers that claim they are helping the homeless.
Wed Sep 5, 2018, 02:32 AM
Sep 2018

Then they spend it on salaries and the few dollars left over are spent on giving out granola bars.

 

Lee-Lee

(6,324 posts)
14. I'm always dubious of these pop-up gofundme camoaigns
Wed Sep 5, 2018, 06:36 AM
Sep 2018

Ones like this, ones for high profile people or causes suddenly in the media, etc.

Because there is absolutely no assurance your money is going where you want it to.

I could start a campaign right now that says “help support this family seeking asylum in the USA” with a picture and a story, get people to give, and then do anything from donate 100% of it to the family to keep 100% for me.

Vinca

(50,248 posts)
16. They should be charged with fraud or theft or something. This is no different than
Wed Sep 5, 2018, 07:36 AM
Sep 2018

going door-to-door collecting money for a made up charity or being the Trump Foundation collecting money and spending it on themselves.

Bengus81

(6,930 posts)
18. Total BS,that money is not "gone". What did they do,spend it all at McDonalds?
Wed Sep 5, 2018, 08:07 AM
Sep 2018

That homeless guy still has options including going after Go Fund me who recklessly let that guy and his girlfriend pull all those funds out when it was obvious the homeless guy is still homeless.

Anyone who contributed to that GFM can get their money back--it's a GFM policy. This is a HUGE black eye for Go Fund Me and will hurt their reputation.

brooklynite

(94,452 posts)
26. Aside from not reporting taxable revenue...
Wed Sep 5, 2018, 01:34 PM
Sep 2018

...it's not clear to me about holding a GOFUNDME under false pretenses is a criminal activity.

 

ansible

(1,718 posts)
29. UPDATE: N.J couple in $400K dispute with homeless vet no-shows court hearing, may take 5th
Wed Sep 5, 2018, 01:47 PM
Sep 2018

The New Jersey couple embroiled in a legal dispute over $400,000 they raised for a homeless veteran no-showed a court hearing Wednesday and their attorney told a judge they want to invoke the 5th Amendment right against self-incrimination.

Superior Court Judge Paula Dow rejected the request because Kate McClure and her boyfriend Mark D'Amico were not present in the Burlington County courthouse for the second straight hearing in the civil case filed by Johnny Bobbitt.

https://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2018/09/couple_in_400k_gofundme_scandal_taken_to_court_by.html

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