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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsAll Federal officials and employees take an oath
to uphold the Constitution:
They do not take an oath of loyalty to or blindly obey the leader.
I know that many here are concerned by yesterday's NYT Op-Ed that many un-elected federal officials and/or employees are not following the orders of the current elected President, calling it a coup and shadow government.
But isn't this how a democratic republic should operate. Loyalty should not be to the leader, that's how dictatorships work, but to the law, specifically our constitution.
tblue37
(65,319 posts)They would need to seriously pressure Congress to impeach or the VP and cabinet to use the 25th Amendment.
elleng
(130,865 posts)Trumpocalypse
(6,143 posts)By going public, they would be fired and replaced with sycophants.
flor-de-jasmim
(2,125 posts)(in response to a question by D. Feinstein)
FakeNoose
(32,630 posts)He was an employee of the US government, like every other White House staffer.
Just sayin'
WhiskeyGrinder
(22,326 posts)anonymous moves behind the scenes are not the solution. These people are merely tweaking Trump's actions, which still result in things like family separation and incarceration at the border.
marylandblue
(12,344 posts)Federal employees must follow the law, but outside the military, there is no requirement to obey orders. All they can do is fire you if you disobey.
Trumpocalypse
(6,143 posts)marylandblue
(12,344 posts)But the only penalty for insubordination by federal civilian employees is firing.
All federal employees take the same oath as the military.
Lee-Lee
(6,324 posts)(a)Enlistment Oath.
Each person enlisting in an armed force shall take the following oath:
I, __________, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God.