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(85,992 posts)
Thu Sep 6, 2018, 12:54 PM Sep 2018

Kavanaugh "sent investigators in search of follicle specimens from Vince Foster's teenage daughter"


NYT:

Why Was Kavanaugh Obsessed With Vince Foster?

___ Anticipating the imminent publication of Kenneth Starr’s memoir of the Clinton impeachment, I looked into Judge Kavanaugh’s files in the Office of Independent Counsel records, housed in the National Archives. What I discovered sheds light on how Mr. Kavanaugh made his way in his early career, and how he flagrantly breached his role as a neutral public servant and followed the imperatives of a political operative.

Mr. Kavanaugh served under Mr. Starr as associate independent counsel between 1994 and 1997, and then again in 1998. Although not yet a judge, he was charged with investigating impartially what Attorney General Janet Reno deemed substantial specific accusations of presidential misconduct arising from a failed real estate investment known as Whitewater.

Judge Starr’s predecessor as independent counsel, Robert Fiske, had looked into unfounded claims that White House Counsel Vincent Foster, who committed suicide in Fort Marcy Park in 1993, had in fact been murdered as part of an alleged White House cover-up related to Whitewater. After a thorough investigation, Mr. Fiske concluded in 1994 that there was nothing to the conspiracy theories and that Mr. Foster, who suffered from depression, had indeed killed himself. Official accounts by the United States Park Service in 1993 and by Republican Congressman William Clinger, the ranking member of the House Government Affairs Committee in 1994, came to an identical conclusion, as did a bipartisan report of the Senate Banking Committee early in 1995.

But shortly after the Senate report was released, Mr. Kavanaugh convinced Mr. Starr to reopen what he called a “full-fledged” investigation of the Foster matter, telling his colleagues, as justification, that “we have received allegations that Mr. Foster’s death related to President and Mrs. Clinton’s involvement” in Whitewater and other alleged scandals.

Who were these unnamed, presumably reliable sources on whose word the case should be reopened? Mr. Kavanaugh’s files in the National Archives make clear that they were some of the most ludicrous hard-right conspiracy-mongers of the time...

read more: https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/05/opinion/why-was-kavanaugh-obsessed-with-vince-foster.html


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Kavanaugh "sent investigators in search of follicle specimens from Vince Foster's teenage daughter" (Original Post) bigtree Sep 2018 OP
I simply will NOT participate in a country that has this piece of shit on the SC Eliot Rosewater Sep 2018 #1
There is Something Decidedly Creepy About Kavenaugh dlk Sep 2018 #2
I wouldn't want him as part of SCOTUS if I were Roberts. haele Sep 2018 #5
There is. I can't put my finger on it. It's just instinct. And it's not just because he's another smirkymonkey Sep 2018 #6
Yes PatSeg Sep 2018 #24
My first instinct True Blue American Sep 2018 #27
Yes. High weasel factor, too. Achilleaze Sep 2018 #14
He and Clarence Thomas will certainly making an amazing "tag team". bullwinkle428 Sep 2018 #23
Creep factor like pence and Cruz. GOP creep factor. SammyWinstonJack Sep 2018 #25
Dead eyes. sarge43 Sep 2018 #29
K&R Solly Mack Sep 2018 #3
Good God. He believed that shit? Ilsa Sep 2018 #4
The righteousness is their cocaine. Mopar151 Sep 2018 #7
Your neuroscience ideas greymattermom Sep 2018 #12
Had a bunch of fundie kids in grade school. Mopar151 Sep 2018 #20
More likely believed pretending to believe would advance his career in the RW bizarro world...and it Fred Sanders Sep 2018 #17
This message was self-deleted by its author Ms. Toad Sep 2018 #18
Sheesh! Maybe the senators should ask his opinion of Pizzagate! klook Sep 2018 #8
He is from the Ken Starr Whitewater crap and Hillary and Bill had Vince Foster killed ... Botany Sep 2018 #9
I hope he writes better than he speaks... jodymarie aimee Sep 2018 #10
I remember that NewJeffCT Sep 2018 #11
Yet, according to the article, Kavanaugh pushed for it and had it Re-opened!! riversedge Sep 2018 #16
Kavanaugh is a creepy sick fuck. dalton99a Sep 2018 #13
Just like Pence. SammyWinstonJack Sep 2018 #26
"his inquiries callously harassed a grieving family and Mr. Foster's friends. His office spread mali riversedge Sep 2018 #15
K&R Scurrilous Sep 2018 #19
He is the most UNjust justice nominee ever! BigmanPigman Sep 2018 #21
He does things normally reserved for Republican operatives Mr. Ected Sep 2018 #22
Extra judicial punishment of Foster's daughter for no valid reason. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Sep 2018 #28
Spreading lies about HRC all the way back then... ehrnst Sep 2018 #30
But he sings in the car with his kid! Johonny Sep 2018 #31
K & R for exposure. SunSeeker Sep 2018 #32
Disgusting to watch Loge23 Sep 2018 #33

Eliot Rosewater

(31,109 posts)
1. I simply will NOT participate in a country that has this piece of shit on the SC
Thu Sep 6, 2018, 12:58 PM
Sep 2018

not sure what I can do...move I guess.

haele

(12,649 posts)
5. I wouldn't want him as part of SCOTUS if I were Roberts.
Thu Sep 6, 2018, 01:06 PM
Sep 2018

He has that "lean and hungry" look of a Grand Inquisitor...Kavanaugh can see himself as Chief Justice very easily.

Haele

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
6. There is. I can't put my finger on it. It's just instinct. And it's not just because he's another
Thu Sep 6, 2018, 01:09 PM
Sep 2018

slimy republican. I can't stand any of them, but there is something particularly smarmy about Kavanaugh. This guy is definitely hiding something.

PatSeg

(47,418 posts)
24. Yes
Thu Sep 6, 2018, 02:33 PM
Sep 2018

I've said the same thing, "can't put my finger on it", but if I encountered the man under any other circumstances, I would not trust him. It is even worse when he smiles. Something is just not right there.

Ilsa

(61,694 posts)
4. Good God. He believed that shit?
Thu Sep 6, 2018, 01:05 PM
Sep 2018

Does he think Foster's daughter wasn't his?

I thought Jesuits trained their students better.

Mopar151

(9,982 posts)
7. The righteousness is their cocaine.
Thu Sep 6, 2018, 01:11 PM
Sep 2018

Much like The Devil's Dandruff, the brain seems to evolve new neural pathways after a few months of steady abuse, and may not come all the way back.

Mopar151

(9,982 posts)
20. Had a bunch of fundie kids in grade school.
Thu Sep 6, 2018, 02:16 PM
Sep 2018

Saw the rightousness take hold of some, and never let go. When I saw people coked out for months, they were acting strangley like the righteous.

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
17. More likely believed pretending to believe would advance his career in the RW bizarro world...and it
Thu Sep 6, 2018, 02:12 PM
Sep 2018

did.

Response to Ilsa (Reply #4)

Botany

(70,501 posts)
9. He is from the Ken Starr Whitewater crap and Hillary and Bill had Vince Foster killed ...
Thu Sep 6, 2018, 01:14 PM
Sep 2018

.... right wing nut ball camp?

 

jodymarie aimee

(3,975 posts)
10. I hope he writes better than he speaks...
Thu Sep 6, 2018, 01:16 PM
Sep 2018

he is coming off as a big mess grammar and syntax wise...did he skip 2nd grade?

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
11. I remember that
Thu Sep 6, 2018, 01:17 PM
Sep 2018

Even Antonin Scalia - one of the most partisan justices of the past century - called BS on re-opening the investigation yet again.

riversedge

(70,200 posts)
16. Yet, according to the article, Kavanaugh pushed for it and had it Re-opened!!
Thu Sep 6, 2018, 02:09 PM
Sep 2018




https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/05/opinion/why-was-kavanaugh-obsessed-with-vince-foster.html

..............But shortly after the Senate report was released, Mr. Kavanaugh convinced Mr. Starr to reopen what he called a “full-fledged” investigation of the Foster matter, telling his colleagues, as justification, that “we have received allegations that Mr. Foster’s death related to President and Mrs. Clinton’s involvement” in Whitewater and other alleged scandals.

Who were these unnamed, presumably reliable sources on whose word the case should be reopened? Mr. Kavanaugh’s files in the National Archives make clear that they were some of the most ludicrous hard-right conspiracy-mongers of the time..
.....................

riversedge

(70,200 posts)
15. "his inquiries callously harassed a grieving family and Mr. Foster's friends. His office spread mali
Thu Sep 6, 2018, 02:03 PM
Sep 2018

If I did not despise Kavanqsugh before, I certainly do now.


https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/05/opinion/why-was-kavanaugh-obsessed-with-vince-foster.html


................Mr. Kavanaugh apparently took a special interest in Hillary Clinton’s bruited affair with Mr. Foster, a popular rumor in the fever swamps of the right. As he reported, his investigators “asked numerous people about it,” before he decided to ask Mrs. Clinton herself.

Of course, Mr. Kavanaugh proved nothing new, as there was nothing new to prove except in conspiratorial illusion. But there was nothing funny about his Inspector Clouseau performance. For months, his inquiries callously harassed a grieving family and Mr. Foster’s friends. His office spread malicious sexual innuendo about Hillary Clinton, whom he seems to have regarded as prey. By reopening a closed investigation, he irresponsibly gave the Foster conspiracy freaks credibility to continue smearing the Clintons and poison public debate for another three years, all at the taxpayers’ expense.

Perhaps Brett Kavanaugh has changed his ways, just as he has changed his position on subjecting presidents to investigation. But he owes the Senate and the American public an explanation of what happened when he worked under Ken Starr’s cover and how and whether he has become a different man than he was 20 years ago.

Sean Wilentz, a professor of history at Princeton, is the author, most recently, of “No Property in Man: Slavery and Antislavery at the Nation’s Founding.”

Mr. Ected

(9,670 posts)
22. He does things normally reserved for Republican operatives
Thu Sep 6, 2018, 02:29 PM
Sep 2018

This is behavior unbecoming of the ultimate arbiter with a lifetime appointment.

 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
30. Spreading lies about HRC all the way back then...
Thu Sep 6, 2018, 03:23 PM
Sep 2018
Mr. Kavanaugh apparently took a special interest in Hillary Clinton’s bruited affair with Mr. Foster, a popular rumor in the fever swamps of the right. As he reported, his investigators “asked numerous people about it,” before he decided to ask Mrs. Clinton herself.

Of course, Mr. Kavanaugh proved nothing new, as there was nothing new to prove except in conspiratorial illusion. But there was nothing funny about his Inspector Clouseau performance. For months, his inquiries callously harassed a grieving family and Mr. Foster’s friends. His office spread malicious sexual innuendo about Hillary Clinton, whom he seems to have regarded as prey. By reopening a closed investigation, he irresponsibly gave the Foster conspiracy freaks credibility to continue smearing the Clintons and poison public debate for another three years, all at the taxpayers’ expense.

Loge23

(3,922 posts)
33. Disgusting to watch
Thu Sep 6, 2018, 03:49 PM
Sep 2018

We're watching the GOP destroy democracy and the elected representatives and judiciary will be powerless to stop it.
At what point...at what point?

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