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MineralMan

(146,286 posts)
Thu Sep 6, 2018, 02:37 PM Sep 2018

Cui Bono? That's the question.

Who stands to benefit the most from exposing Donald Trump and, perhaps, forcing a resignation? Who stands to escape scot-free from any consequences of giving that op-ed to the New York Times.

The answer is simple: Mike Pence, the Vice-President.

Donald Trump can summarily fire anyone else in his cabinet, and do so instantly and publicly. The Vice-President cannot be fired. The only means of removing him from office is impeachment and removal by Congress.

So, Pence has absolutely nothing to lose by handing over an op-ed to the New York Times. On the contrary, he has a great deal to gain. If Trump goes, he will become President. Now, there's an incentive!

Since Pence has trouble acting on his own, he probably consulted with Mother Pence on this. Very likely, she has ideas for decorating the White House in her own style. I'm sure she would be encouraging if Mikey wanted to blow the whistle on that adulterous, coarse Donald Trump.

Anyhow, all things being equal, look to see who benefits from the op-ed. Cui Bono?

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Cui Bono? That's the question. (Original Post) MineralMan Sep 2018 OP
Pence believes that he is chosen by GOD... Zoonart Sep 2018 #1
Yes, I believe he does believe that. MineralMan Sep 2018 #2
Agreed, MM. Zoonart Sep 2018 #5
Cui was Sony Bono's other kid, right? brooklynite Sep 2018 #3
I just posted a similar post! CTyankee Sep 2018 #4
Oops. Sorry. MineralMan Sep 2018 #6
Interesting. Both of us using "cui bono." CTyankee Sep 2018 #8
It's a pretty common Latinate legal term. MineralMan Sep 2018 #9
Rump stands to benefit from the op-ed being exposed as a fake ProudLib72 Sep 2018 #7
Kick Hekate Sep 2018 #10
Thinking the op-ed was a group effort DeminPennswoods Sep 2018 #11
That's possible, I suppose. MineralMan Sep 2018 #12
VP seems to be the "action officer" DeminPennswoods Sep 2018 #13
Pence is quiet, but not stupid. MineralMan Sep 2018 #14
Like Madame Defarge DeminPennswoods Sep 2018 #15

Zoonart

(11,849 posts)
1. Pence believes that he is chosen by GOD...
Thu Sep 6, 2018, 02:42 PM
Sep 2018

DOG help us.

Be careful what you wish for, Mikey. I'm sure Mr. Mueller has a couple of questions for you too.

MineralMan

(146,286 posts)
2. Yes, I believe he does believe that.
Thu Sep 6, 2018, 02:43 PM
Sep 2018

That, in itself, is very frightening. I believe, however, that he could be defeated easily in 2020.

ProudLib72

(17,984 posts)
7. Rump stands to benefit from the op-ed being exposed as a fake
Thu Sep 6, 2018, 02:48 PM
Sep 2018

So I think that the story is elaborate bullshittery. This is an attempt to sink the "failing NYT" and demonstrate that the "liberal media" is indeed "fake".

DeminPennswoods

(15,278 posts)
11. Thinking the op-ed was a group effort
Thu Sep 6, 2018, 03:00 PM
Sep 2018

thus ensuring plausible deniability for all contributors and was co-ordinated through Pence's office with one of Pence's speechwriters editing and pulling all the contributions into a cohesive op-ed.

It's diabolical, but Pence is pretty ambitious. The op-ed submitter knows the op-ed will drive Trump even crazier, show everyone just how nuts Trump is and perhaps expedite Trump's removal from office.

MineralMan

(146,286 posts)
12. That's possible, I suppose.
Thu Sep 6, 2018, 03:02 PM
Sep 2018

I tend to opt for the simplest solution, though. Occam's Razor, more or less.

DeminPennswoods

(15,278 posts)
13. VP seems to be the "action officer"
Thu Sep 6, 2018, 03:08 PM
Sep 2018

wrt to invoking the 25th amendment. Pence definitely has the incentive to drum up support for that. The op-ed certainly is getting through to normally disengaged Americans. If the polls turn further against Trump, so will the GOP congresscritters change their political calculus.

As I said, it's diabolical, but the question remains if Pence is capable of thinking up such an elegant scheme.

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