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LuckyCharms

(17,425 posts)
Sat Sep 8, 2018, 02:27 PM Sep 2018

Money

How much do you need?

My personal answer is "just enough".

I/my family want to have: a vehicle, a safe home/apartment with sanitary living conditions, an adequate supply of food and water, enough money to cover health care expenses, and some money for entertainment and comfort items. Finally, enough money to contribute to charity. I think that having these things constitutes an extremely good life.

I do not want to own a boat(s). Nor another home(s). Nor a cottage on the lake. Nor golf courses.

At some point, and that point varies for each person, there are diminishing returns when it comes to the acquisition of more and more money.

You might be able to get more money, and therefore more things. But at what cost? If you already are living what by most standards is a good life, why do you want to forever work 30 hours of overtime a week to get more money? And perhaps more importantly, why would you want to hurt your reputation by not paying your contractors what is rightfully owed to them, thereby forever branding yourself as an insufferable prick...just so you can have more money for yourself, which in turn makes you desire even more money? Why would you want to step on others in order to satisfy a need that can never be satisfied?

Some people actually reduce the quality of their life...just to get more money. To me, that is counter intuitive. Isn't the end goal to have a good and peaceful life, rather than have a lot of money?

People that concentrate on material wealth have an itch that can never be scratched. Some have everything they could ever want, and certainly everything they could ever need. But they want more and more and more money. Because they are trying to scratch that itch. They are searching for that satisfaction. That satisfaction of having more money. If your goal is to always have more of something, you will never obtain that goal. And if you are willing to do anything, to anyone in order to get more money, you will be poor in the things that actually satisfy. And you will die that way. You may perhaps even realize on your death bed how badly you messed up, and desire redemption. But by then, it is far too late to redeem your life. And your children will live their lives with enormous wealth, while the rest of the world outside of their little cocoon knows what assholes they are, and what assholes their parents were, and this will continue throughout each generation until someone in the family decides to change it. So you see, you are not passing anything of value along to your children.

So when people talk about how lucky someone is to be "rich", I always seek to learn exactly what that person is rich in. Money? Material things? And, How did they get there? Did they hurt/scam others to obtain their wealth? Do they give back to people less "fortunate"? Because if you do not use your monetary wealth to truly make the world a better place, you may just realize on your death bed that your life was wasted, and history will judge you unkindly for eternity. Maybe you are not even monetarily rich. Maybe you are just scrambling to keep up those appearances. Maybe you spend your entire life living in a false world. Again, this is another desire that will never be satisfied.

I'm talking to you, Trump family. I'm talking to you too, Betsy DeVos. Because you have a sickness. Most people fully recognize you as being the assholes that you are, but you don't see it yourself. In your own sick way, you should enjoy it now. Because I have a feeling that the reality of a wasted life is going to slap you hard in your time of dying.

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KentuckyWoman

(6,679 posts)
1. I have nothing against someone getting a shit ton of money.
Sat Sep 8, 2018, 02:34 PM
Sep 2018

Don't stand on someone else doing it. Don't lie cheat and steal to get it. Don't shit up some third world country. Get it through your own hard work. Get it with your own ideas. Treat the people who are helping you get it as partners in success. Keep your head straight about what money is for and the fact it doesn't make you any better than anyone else.

All of the above is next to impossible and we all know that.

There are a few who've done it and go out of their way to use the wealth to better the world. Money changes our choices but it doesn't change who someone is. The Trump family would have been shitheads rich or poor. The money just means they have the option to hurt more people.

LuckyCharms

(17,425 posts)
3. I think wealth can be a great thing.
Sat Sep 8, 2018, 02:38 PM
Sep 2018

But only if it is used in a way that will bring satisfaction to both yourself and others.

And only if it is obtained the right way.

Totally Tunsie

(10,885 posts)
5. I've had the opportunity to work for some extremely wealthy people in my day,
Sat Sep 8, 2018, 03:30 PM
Sep 2018

not that it necessarily flowed down to me. The most important thing I learned from it is that (with some people) the better they can buy, the less happy they are. They're always chasing that elusive rainbow.

Case in point: Mr. Deeppockets builds a home with an amazing sound system in it. He loves it; his family loves it; even the dog loves it. Two months later, Mr. Deeppockets and his family are invited to the home of Mr. and Mrs. Moneybags. Not only do they have an amazing sound system, they also have a media center that challenges the local cinema. All of a sudden the Deeppockets' sound system isn't "good enough" anymore. That system they all loved just two months ago is now sub-par to them. No one is happy. So now they have to upgrade and install a grander media center than Moneybags has. Great - everyone's happy again...until they're invited back to Moneybags' house and find that Moneybags has upgraded his theater seating to the softest, plushest, leatheriest seating available on the market. The Deeppockets go back to their home and...

I've seen this happen over and over again, with media systems, kitchen layouts, cars, boats, vacation homes, etc. They love their "stuff" until someone has something better. The problem is, there's always something better, so they'll never be happy with the things they have.

Contrast that to Joe Hardworker and his family. They saved for a year to buy their Sony combo FM/tape/CD player that sits in their living room bookcase. They worked hard for it and they appreciate what they were able to buy. To them, this is the best they can have, and they're happy and grateful and will enjoy it for years.

Who's really better off?

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