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patricia92243

(12,595 posts)
Sat Sep 8, 2018, 03:54 PM Sep 2018

Staff of the newspaper wrote the op-ed - according to Republican friend. Said it was analyzed

by an "expert" and that was their conclusion.

Anybody hear of anything like that? I don't watch Fox and am afraid to ask friend any more about it because they go into a screaming tirade,

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Staff of the newspaper wrote the op-ed - according to Republican friend. Said it was analyzed (Original Post) patricia92243 Sep 2018 OP
No, and not a chance. Thanks for this indication of Hortensis Sep 2018 #1
But Trump is obsessed with it, therefore the media follows suit marylandblue Sep 2018 #3
Well, the NYT op ed piece exploded on the nation, Hortensis Sep 2018 #4
I don't think the subversion element is new either marylandblue Sep 2018 #7
Agree. They've been doing it all along, but it might Hortensis Sep 2018 #11
Not heard of that, but I think such an analysis is impossible marylandblue Sep 2018 #2
Nope. Don't buy it ailsagirl Sep 2018 #5
If that were true, why is Trump trying to ferret out the person in the White House? TheBlackAdder Sep 2018 #34
That's 100% false and made up. Bleacher Creature Sep 2018 #6
Why people give a fuck, seems to me, to be ... GeorgeGist Sep 2018 #8
Yup. And Trump is still being faithful in his first marriage too. nt TeamPooka Sep 2018 #9
Not a chance. The NYT is not some yellow rag. Nitram Sep 2018 #10
That is completely illogical Cicada Sep 2018 #12
The usual suspects Runningdawg Sep 2018 #13
Tell friend: "Fox Lies... to get votes for billionaires " sharedvalues Sep 2018 #14
Nope. No way the NYT would do that. MineralMan Sep 2018 #15
Pfft - they wish. Marie Marie Sep 2018 #16
There is so much 'juicy' news these days, that no one needs to make up anything unitedwethrive Sep 2018 #17
You need a new friend or they're gaslighting Boomerproud Sep 2018 #18
"We had top men analyze it." "Who?" "... Top. Men." JHB Sep 2018 #19
Decoy set up by the enemy of the peoples trying to bring down trump yeah ! dye crazy lunasun Sep 2018 #20
Zero % chance that occured Quixote1818 Sep 2018 #21
Can you unfriend the person? Garrett78 Sep 2018 #22
Thanks everybody for answering. I was sure it was a bunch of phooey. But, I will bet patricia92243 Sep 2018 #23
"This White House runs like a well-oiled machine! Thousands of parts, moving harmoniously together!" struggle4progress Sep 2018 #24
Ask that person to explain why a respected paper would destroy itself with such a stunt. nt Blue_true Sep 2018 #25
What possible reason would NYT have for destroying their mcar Sep 2018 #26
Absent The Details Provided Me. Sep 2018 #27
More bullshit RhodeIslandOne Sep 2018 #28
According to the BBC's expert linguist, it was Pence appleannie1943 Sep 2018 #29
Huntsman. Grasswire2 Sep 2018 #30
Did they write it in the basement of a dc pizza shop? FSogol Sep 2018 #31
The NYT legal department would not allow that. AJT Sep 2018 #32
Don't know which "expert" your friend meant, but Dinesh D'Souza was pushing that conspiracy theory highplainsdem Sep 2018 #33
Spam deleted by MIR Team Artsy Sep 2018 #35
Who's the author and link? nt fleabiscuit Sep 2018 #36
Ignore this Trump supporter. FuzzyRabbit Sep 2018 #37
Sounds like they're getting more desperate. Good. (nt) Paladin Sep 2018 #38

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
1. No, and not a chance. Thanks for this indication of
Sat Sep 8, 2018, 04:01 PM
Sep 2018

how some on the right are trying to deny this devastating development.

This below was at the top of this anonymous op-ed essay. In spite of knowing that the NYT conspired with the FBI to subvert its own coverage of Trump-Russia in an article published October 31, 2016 (a week before election day!), and provided overall severely biased coverage against Hillary and the Democratic Party, I do believe this implicitly.

The Times is taking the rare step of publishing an anonymous Op-Ed essay. We have done so at the request of the author, a senior official in the Trump administration whose identity is known to us and whose job would be jeopardized by its disclosure. We believe publishing this essay anonymously is the only way to deliver an important perspective to our readers. We invite you to submit a question about the essay or our vetting process here.


The NYT knows who this person is and believes he or she is too senior to ignore. Personally, I think who actually wrote it is mostly an entertaining parlor game for the media and us. It's not the most important thing going on here or even in the top three, but it provides a big distraction from Trump's grave unfitness for office.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
4. Well, the NYT op ed piece exploded on the nation,
Sat Sep 8, 2018, 04:16 PM
Sep 2018

then Trump found out about it. Imo, the big issue isn't Trump's tantrums (what's really new?) on learning about it but the claim that he is so dangerously unfit for office that many around him are usurping and subverting his authority.

marylandblue

(12,344 posts)
7. I don't think the subversion element is new either
Sat Sep 8, 2018, 04:23 PM
Sep 2018

How many jokes do we have on DU about Kelly tackling Trump before he can send or tweet or push the red button? How many times did staff say one thing and he said another?

The only news here is someone in the administration actually admitting to it.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
11. Agree. They've been doing it all along, but it might
Sat Sep 8, 2018, 04:25 PM
Sep 2018

have built to a much worse level over time. There also may have been some action(s) someone really doesn't want to come out. Seems likely even.

marylandblue

(12,344 posts)
2. Not heard of that, but I think such an analysis is impossible
Sat Sep 8, 2018, 04:01 PM
Sep 2018

If a piece has multiple writers, it can't be analyzed. It's sort of like mixing DNA samples. The mixing creates too many possibilities.

Bleacher Creature

(11,256 posts)
6. That's 100% false and made up.
Sat Sep 8, 2018, 04:20 PM
Sep 2018

Seriously, this is a joke. I have plenty of issues with the NYT, but it's lunacy to think that they don't take their journalistic obligations seriously and that they don't have policies in place to avoid such a thing.

Anyone who would believe this story has serious, serious issues.

Cicada

(4,533 posts)
12. That is completely illogical
Sat Sep 8, 2018, 04:49 PM
Sep 2018

The NYT is 167 years old. There has never been any evidence nor credible claim on dishonesty like that. And consider the risk reward circumstances. Truth often comes out. That would destroy the NYT and the careers of those involved. And for what? The op ed does not do much harm to Trump that hasn’t already been done. The damning idea is that those who work with Trump view him as a dangerous incompetent bozo. But we already know that. The Bernstein book documents that, an extremely credible source. Omarosa too. Wolff book too. Many reports many places by many reporters.

It is absurd to think the NYT and staff risk total ruin just to add a bit of trim to the cake already baked.

It did not happen.

Runningdawg

(4,516 posts)
13. The usual suspects
Sat Sep 8, 2018, 05:05 PM
Sep 2018

On a far right wing forum I follow, they of course believe it was Hillary, Obama, Soros or kinda of surprisingly - the most vocal Parkland survivors.

sharedvalues

(6,916 posts)
14. Tell friend: "Fox Lies... to get votes for billionaires "
Sat Sep 8, 2018, 05:08 PM
Sep 2018

“If you watch fox, you’re a sucker. GOP billionaires are laughing at you. Sucker”

Quixote1818

(28,928 posts)
21. Zero % chance that occured
Sat Sep 8, 2018, 07:30 PM
Sep 2018

NO WAY the NYT's would risk their reputation doing something like that. That would lead to the end of the paper.

patricia92243

(12,595 posts)
23. Thanks everybody for answering. I was sure it was a bunch of phooey. But, I will bet
Sat Sep 8, 2018, 08:22 PM
Sep 2018

Last edited Sun Sep 9, 2018, 02:42 AM - Edit history (1)

that the theory will eventually be put to Trump and he will jump at the chance to blame the "fake news."

Me.

(35,454 posts)
27. Absent The Details Provided
Sat Sep 8, 2018, 09:07 PM
Sep 2018

any of us could've probably written the piece, but the devil is in the details and the piece had them. You had to be on the scene to know them. And while the Cons are trying another ploy to cover their desperation regarding truth being told, tHey know this is so and they know we know. They also know we can't do anything about it ....for the moment. But circumstances change and fate/destiny always takes a hand because nothing ever lasts forever. And when it does they will be done and it will take a century to recover from the monumentous betrayal of their country.

The only thing that has surprised me about all this is why his heart, or brain, hasn't exploded from the stress of the constant anger, tantrums, rants, lack of sleep, poor diet and the fat hanging over his belt.

FSogol

(45,473 posts)
31. Did they write it in the basement of a dc pizza shop?
Sat Sep 8, 2018, 09:54 PM
Sep 2018


The correct thing to do when rightwingers promote bullshit is to laugh at them

highplainsdem

(48,966 posts)
33. Don't know which "expert" your friend meant, but Dinesh D'Souza was pushing that conspiracy theory
Sat Sep 8, 2018, 10:32 PM
Sep 2018

the day the op-ed came out. Said it was "blindingly obvious" it was written by the Times staff. Gave no details on Twitter as to why he thought it was obvious.

Response to patricia92243 (Original post)

FuzzyRabbit

(1,967 posts)
37. Ignore this Trump supporter.
Sun Sep 9, 2018, 03:31 PM
Sep 2018

His head is so far up his *** that nothing you say or write will change his mind.

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