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Who paid off Kavanaugh's gambling debt? (Original Post) SHRED Sep 2018 OP
K&R! Anon-C Sep 2018 #1
Really. Plus why are they still considering someone that got themselves into a 200,000 debt ... SWBTATTReg Sep 2018 #2
the guy is a blackmail trap waiting to happen. TeamPooka Sep 2018 #4
Aren't people with such excessive gambling problems usually considered national security risks? Proud Liberal Dem Sep 2018 #9
You got it right, a prime national security risk NOT being addressed...nt SWBTATTReg Sep 2018 #11
$200,000.00 debt? with his salary? Gambling will do that to you. nt AnotherMother4Peace Sep 2018 #12
That is a really good question elfin Sep 2018 #3
Income tax evasion too, if all of a sudden someone gave him $200K...nt SWBTATTReg Sep 2018 #6
This is a key point SHRED Sep 2018 #7
Yeah, did he declare the gift? 3Hotdogs Sep 2018 #10
Yep! He was bought. What was or is his deliverable? nt NCjack Sep 2018 #5
Seems like a really good way to launder money ProudLib72 Sep 2018 #8
Why wasn't this brought up in his judicial committee meeting? kimbutgar Sep 2018 #13
Pyoootin! Who Else? joanbarnes Sep 2018 #14
Betting on those CYO girls basketball games is like smoking crack! BamaRefugee Sep 2018 #15
Thank you! bucolic_frolic Sep 2018 #16
Right. I never bought that either. dmr Sep 2018 #21
It's a range of debt between 60k-200k DeminPennswoods Sep 2018 #25
If Kavanaugh's sworn answers up to now are any indication, his answer will be: DFW Sep 2018 #17
You got that canned fill-in-the-blanks response down pat. Congrats! erronis Sep 2018 #18
I figured SOME people out there must remember Edith Ann. DFW Sep 2018 #19
Lol. That said, this thread averages pretty trumpsterish. Hortensis Sep 2018 #28
Where is it reported the $200k was gambling? AncientGeezer Sep 2018 #20
How do you explain it? bucolic_frolic Sep 2018 #22
Read these... they aren't political forums or blogs so you may not like them AncientGeezer Sep 2018 #23
From the LV Sun DeminPennswoods Sep 2018 #26
I read that before I posted it....doesn't say anything about gambling AncientGeezer Sep 2018 #27
Fans w/ season passes, seated together in sections, know each other. Fact. appalachiablue Sep 2018 #24
This is true DeminPennswoods Sep 2018 #29
Only the GOP would nominate a guy with past Gambling Debt. sarcasmo Sep 2018 #30

SWBTATTReg

(21,856 posts)
2. Really. Plus why are they still considering someone that got themselves into a 200,000 debt ...
Sun Sep 9, 2018, 11:18 AM
Sep 2018

over gambling?

And your question is a very valid one...one doesn't exactly come up w/ 200K in cash to pay off bills all of a sudden (that is, a normal person like us don't normally find 200K in cash everyday)...

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,353 posts)
9. Aren't people with such excessive gambling problems usually considered national security risks?
Sun Sep 9, 2018, 12:01 PM
Sep 2018

Especially people considered for very important government posts like Supreme Court? Wouldn't he be open for blackmail?

elfin

(6,262 posts)
3. That is a really good question
Sun Sep 9, 2018, 11:20 AM
Sep 2018

Probably an RNC slush fund. He was nominated over others who didn't have such an issue and other problematic things such as perjury. Why? Well, we know why - to destroy Rove and protect the Idiot.

ProudLib72

(17,984 posts)
8. Seems like a really good way to launder money
Sun Sep 9, 2018, 12:00 PM
Sep 2018

Kavanaugh is one gamble our country cannot afford to take.

kimbutgar

(20,871 posts)
13. Why wasn't this brought up in his judicial committee meeting?
Sun Sep 9, 2018, 12:28 PM
Sep 2018

Why isn’t the NYT or Washington Post not reporting this?

bucolic_frolic

(42,653 posts)
16. Thank you!
Sun Sep 9, 2018, 01:24 PM
Sep 2018

All I've read is how he wound up with $200k in debt from buying blocks of baseball tickets. Seriously. It's simply not believable.

Sports betting? Believeable. You've made the connection that few dared utter about was was an utterly unbelievable cover story.

dmr

(28,321 posts)
21. Right. I never bought that either.
Sun Sep 9, 2018, 08:30 PM
Sep 2018

I wouldn't trust him to be a simple lawyer let alone be one of the highestest judges in the land.

DeminPennswoods

(15,246 posts)
25. It's a range of debt between 60k-200k
Mon Sep 10, 2018, 05:45 AM
Sep 2018

The federal disclosure form only asks for ranges of debt. Kavanaugh reported between 60 and 200k of credit card debt. It could be the high end, the low end or somewhere in between. Only he knows.

Even taking the low end, 60k is a lot of credit card debt. I can't imagine just 1 credit card giving someone that high a line of credit.

DFW

(54,047 posts)
17. If Kavanaugh's sworn answers up to now are any indication, his answer will be:
Sun Sep 9, 2018, 01:37 PM
Sep 2018

"Well, Senator, I am not claiming I found and old lamp, rubbed it, and a genie came out, bringing me $200,000 as my first wish. As this might come up while I am on the court, I am not at liberty to say how I might react if asked about my views on Genies. I do admit to having seen reruns of the series with Larry Hagman and Barbara Eden, but I am not at liberty to comment on any specific episode. Yes, Senator, I know your question was concerning who paid off my gambling debt, and how was the payment made, and not episodes of comedy series. But payments are issues that frequently come before the Supreme Court, and I may be called upon to rule on them in the future. Even orders at McDonald's are compensated with payments, and so I have to decline to comment on this issue as a matter of jurisprudence."

erronis

(14,941 posts)
18. You got that canned fill-in-the-blanks response down pat. Congrats!
Sun Sep 9, 2018, 02:19 PM
Sep 2018

Too bad the Supremes are now stacked with robots taking orders from the controllers of the other two branches of US gov't.

And thanks for Edith Ann!

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
28. Lol. That said, this thread averages pretty trumpsterish.
Mon Sep 10, 2018, 09:29 AM
Sep 2018

So far, NO reputable source is claiming gambling debt in any amount.

Law.com has a rather amusing commentary wondering why Kavanaugh doesn't have more at this point in his life, but, again, not even a hint that it's gone to gambling.

Rich Man, Poor Man: Michael Cohen and Brett Kavanaugh

Maybe it’s the voyeur in me, but I’m fascinated by the mysterious ways lawyers in President Trump’s orbit spend and lose money. For the life of me, I can’t figure out what’s going on with these two: ...

Why is Kavanaugh so bad with money? While Cohen seems to be swimming in dough for unknown reasons, Trump’s pick for the Supreme Court, Brett Kavanaugh, is mysteriously bereft of funds. ...

I have a feeling he’s lousy with money. Remember, the guy ran up a debt of $200,000 on his credit cards, largely for baseball tickets. I understand getting in the red because of a bad business venture or gambling habit, but baseball tickets? Really? Why engage in risky behavior when there’s no upside? ...

https://www.law.com/americanlawyer/2018/07/20/rich-man-poor-man-michael-cohen-and-brett-kavanaugh/?slreturn=20180810091902
 

AncientGeezer

(2,146 posts)
20. Where is it reported the $200k was gambling?
Sun Sep 9, 2018, 08:13 PM
Sep 2018

I haven't seen it reported Anywhere by a reliable source.

bucolic_frolic

(42,653 posts)
22. How do you explain it?
Sun Sep 9, 2018, 08:35 PM
Sep 2018

Answer carefully. The receipts will be available any day. And don't ignore your gut instinct. Baseball tickets have stubs, friends with stubs, and the seats have visibility on TV. It all has to match. So far, it's not adequately explained to those who have a hunch that $200k is a lot of tickets. Have you met anyone who goes into hock to the tune of an average home's value - for baseball tickets?

DeminPennswoods

(15,246 posts)
26. From the LV Sun
Mon Sep 10, 2018, 05:57 AM
Sep 2018

Last edited Mon Sep 10, 2018, 09:29 AM - Edit history (1)

Public disclosure forms for 2017 show that the federal judge would come to the nation's highest court with only two investments, including a bank account, together worth a maximum of $65,000, along with the balance on a loan of $15,000 or less.

Separate from the disclosure forms, the White House said that between Kavanaugh's retirement account balance of $400,000 to $500,000, and the equity in his home in Chevy Chase, Maryland, he has about an additional million dollars in wealth.

If confirmed, his relatively modest means would rank Kavanaugh in the lower tier in personal finances among members of court. Some of his potential future colleagues list millions of dollars in investments.

The records also showed that Kavanaugh, a federal appellate judge nominated by President Donald Trump to replace retiring Justice Anthony Kennedy, had between $45,000 and $150,000 in credit card debt in 2016, which was paid off by the following year.

In 2016, he also reported a loan balance between $15,000 and $50,000.


So he has 65k in the bank and between 60-200k of debt. He's also paying off a mortgage on a 300-400,000 dollar home (equity-retirement, guesstimate 1300/mon) and putting 2 kids through pricey catholic schools.

appalachiablue

(41,047 posts)
24. Fans w/ season passes, seated together in sections, know each other. Fact.
Mon Sep 10, 2018, 12:21 AM
Sep 2018


Brett Kavanaugh watches from the stands before the Major League Baseball All-Star Game, on July 17, 2018, in Washington, D.C. (Illustration by Anna Vignet/ProPublica, Patrick Semansky/AP)

ProPublica, "Did You Go to a Washington Nationals Game With Supreme Court Nominee Brett Kavanaugh?" Aug. 13, 2018. Trump’s pick is a baseball fan who racked up considerable debt buying season tickets. Help us figure out who went with the nominated judge.

…"We think it’s import. to figure out as much as we can about a nominee’s background before confirmed. So we’re turning to you. Figuring out who Kavanaugh brought to games could be relevant to his confirmation. It would help:
•Understand more about his relationships and any potential questions they might raise for the Supreme Court justice.
•Get a better sense of what went into this unusual amount of debt for a judge in his position.
•Or maybe just affirm that the guy really does love baseball for the judicial inspiration.

We’re not sure what we’ll find. But we do know that people take a lot of pictures at baseball games. Did you see Judge Kavanaugh at a game? Did you attend a game with him? Do you have any photos, and if so, will you send them our way?
Here’s what we know already:
•We know he bought season tickets at the end of 2016, likely for the 2017 season.
•We know he also bought tickets to some playoff games. He might not have been sitting in the same seats for those.
•He has reportedly gone to games in the past with U.S. District Judge James E. Boasberg, an Obama nominee who is his ex-roommate from law school.
•At this year’s All-Star Game, he sat in the stands above first base. These probably weren’t in the same part of the stadium as his 2017 season tickets, but could perhaps offer a clue into where he likes to sit.
•He’s been photographed at least twice wearing blue striped polo shirts."...

We’d especially like to figure out where he sat, how many seats he bought and which friends attended games with him. If you’ve got information, please fill out the questions below or send us an email at supremecourt@propublica.org.
More, https://www.propublica.org/getinvolved/brett-kavanaugh-nationals-baseball-supreme-court

DeminPennswoods

(15,246 posts)
29. This is true
Mon Sep 10, 2018, 09:31 AM
Sep 2018

The first game of the season is like a family reunion. We still keep in touch with a one of the people who had seats next to ours.

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