Hundreds of white fans jeered a biracial woman representing Japan after win at US Open

[RhodeIslandOne]

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https://www.telegraph.co.uk/tennis/2018/09/08/naomi-osaka-receives-us-open-trophy-tears-serena-williams-meltdown/

The presentation of Naomi Osaka's first grand slam trophy was overshadowed on Saturday night by a bout of tears from the newly-crowned US Open winner, following her beaten opponent Serena Williams' on-court meltdown.

The trophy ceremony was met with a chorus of boos from Williams' home US Open crowd, who had been unhappy at her treatment during the match.

Williams was earlier given a game penalty after she angrily took issue with umpire Carlos Ramos and tournament referee Brian Earley late in the second set. The rarely seen game penalty was the result of three code violations for Williams, the first after she was accused of receiving in-game coaching, the second for smashing a racket, while the third and final violation was dished out after Williams launched a tirade of abuse at Ramos.

The controversial finish cast a cloud over what should have been Osaka's shining moment.

Well, I'm not wrong, am I?

I mean, isn't that what happened?


EDIT: Thankfully, Serena Williams stepped up and calmed a classless crowd. Watching how ashamed that young woman was heartbreaking.

[DURHAM D]

1. You didn't watch the awards ceremony did you?

Oh, and why is the WTA looking into the umpire's behavior?

[RhodeIslandOne]

2. I did

They booed Naomi Osaka.

Thankfully Serena Williams stepped up and told the crowd to cool it and consoled Naomi in what had to be an awful situation.

Praise goes to Serena there, not the crowd.

[DURHAM D]

5. So what you need to say is that -

A lot of white fans cheered for a black female because they understood sexism was coming down from the umpire's chair.

ETA: Need to add that you totally made up your OP subject line so you could do some mansplainin'.

[RhodeIslandOne]

9. I made up the headline....

But it did happen.

Who knows why they booed?

Plausible deniability is a thing.

[brush]

56. Should've said that in the OP. That would've been a more complete accounting of what happened.

[RhodeIslandOne]

59. I will

It's a good point

[Coventina]

3. I didn't watch the match, but I've read these threads with interest.

I do feel very sad for Osaka.

Whatever the surrounding controversy, it seems she played excellently and didn't deserve any of this.

[OneBro]

4. Yes, you're wrong.

There is BELOW ZERO indication that there was any jeering BECAUSE Osaka is biracial. I had to go watch the ceremony again. My first read was that they were booing their view of what happened to Serena, but I can totally see how she could have taken it personally when it happened.

McEnroe would have gotten away with the exact same behavior, but the fact that Serena's coach admitted to coaching makes Serena's response easier to attack.

Osaka handled it all with grace, and that will ultimately be the takeaway.

[LisaM]

6. They announced the winner and the crowd booed.

It was uncalled for. She deserved to win. I don't think her being bi-racial had anything to do with it but it happened.

[RhodeIslandOne]

7. You might be right

It would be interesting to see if the same reasonable doubt was extended if say, Madison Keyes lost to Osaka in similar fashion.

[jberryhill]

13. Are you joking about McEnroe?

He was suspended from the game for his US Open antics, fined countless times, and ejected from the Australian Open.

[dsc]

25. what did he do to earn all of that?

I am pretty sure it was considerably more than what Serena did. I very much remember McEnroe back in the day and his meltdowns were epic.

[jberryhill]

27. The "McEnroe got away with it" thing is bullshit

July 1981 - Fined a total of $6,000 at Wimbledon when he called chair umpire "pits of the world" and told him, "You cannot be serious!" Referee Fred Hoyles said he had come within two tantrums of disqualification during early match against Tom Gulliksen. Defeated Bjorn Borg in a four-set final, but boycotted champions dinner, resulting in another fine. Recommended additional fine of $10,000 overturned on appeal.

May 1983 - Fined $1,000 for calling Czech opponent Tomas Smid a "communist bastard" at Forest Hills event.

June 1983 - Fined $3,500 for clashing with photographer at courtside during French Open.

July 1983 - Fined $325 for swearing at spectator during Wimbledon. Fines during the year totalled $7,500.

May 1984 - Fined $7,500 for misconduct during Stockholm Open.

June 1984 - Accrued fines totalling $3,500 for swearing at linesman and other verbal abuse during match against Connors at French Open.

January 1985 - Dropped from U.S. Davis Cup team after "outrageous behavior" during 1984 final defeat.

June 1985 - Loses honorary membership of London's Queen's Club for abusing chairman's wife while practicing. McEnroe later was reinstated.

December 1985 - Fined $3,500 for three separate offenses at Australian Open, culminating with verbal abuse of opponent Slobodan Zivojinovic.

January 1986 - Beaten by Brad Gilbert at Masters finals in New York and fined $1,000 for arguing with spectators.

September 1986 - Received fines totalling $3,500 at U.S. Open after he and partner Peter Fleming were disqualified for arriving late for men's doubles match. Fine broke down to $750 for being late and $2,750 for saying what he thought about the disqualification.

April 1987 - Fined $2,000 for time-wasting during match at WCT event in Dallas.

May 1987 - Fined $4,000 for walking off court during World Cup in Dusseldorf.

September 1987 - Suspended two months and fined $10,000 for various offenses at U.S. Open.

July 1988 - Warned for racket abuse during defeat against Australian Wally Masur at Wimbledon.

July 1989 - Australian John Fitzgerald, a fourth-round loser to McEnroe, accuses him of using tantrums to put off opponents.

January 1990 - Thrown out of Australian Open and fined $6,500 after receiving third warning for misbehavior against Mikael Pernfors.

April 1991 - McEnroe admits own behavior on court "sickens me" after receiving a code violation and point penalty during defeat by fellow American Todd Witsken in Hong Kong.

July 1991 - Fined $10,000 for swearing at linesman in Wimbledon loss against Stefan Edberg, picked up by television microphone.

Total fines - $69,500

[Loki Liesmith]

33. And I bet they don't ever respond to this

[dsc]

35. you lose

btw your post borders on a personal attack.

[dsc]

72. It took you 24 minutes to send this post saying I wouldn't respond

here it is a day and you haven't responded to me. Hypocrisy much.

[dsc]

34. Being fined is vastly different than having games and points taken away

Your list has few instances of penalties that affect the actual game. I don't think anyone would have had a problem with fining Serena for her out of line behavior. In ten years of playing he had four penalties that affected his game. Now I watched him back in the day and he was out of control. Serena did three things in this match. The first call frankly was chicken shit. That rule clearly states that for a player to be penalized for coaching there has to be communication which that umpire couldn't have verified. The second and third were episodes of bad behavior but I have seen McEnroe do vastly worse than anything she did in that match and I have rarely seen him get worse than a fine for doing so. She should have been fined, given inflation it should have been a very large fine, and that should have been it.

[oberliner]

36. McEnroe was disqualified from the Australian Open for his behavior

Bigger trouble began in the seventh game of the fourth set, with McEnroe leading overall 6-1, 4-6, 7-5, 2-4. Hitting a forehand wide to go down 15-30, McEnroe threw his racket to the ground, where it bounced on the court’s hard surface. Another wide McEnroe forehand prompted another racket smash, this one cracking the racket’s head. Armstrong called another code violation, for racket abuse, and McEnroe started swearing at him, demanding the intervention of Ken Farrar, the Grand Slam chief of supervisors. Farrar arrived and spoke with McEnroe, whose continued complaints and swears were audible to spectators and TV viewers. With Farrar’s authorization, Armstrong called a third and final code violation: “Default Mr. McEnroe. Game, set, match.” The crowd of 150,000 rose to their feet, booing and chanting their support for McEnroe, as McEnroe himself stood with his hands on his hips, stunned. The last player to be disqualified from a Grand Slam for misconduct had been Willie Alvarez of Spain, in the 1963 French Open, 17 years earlier.

https://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/john-mcenroe-disqualified-from-the-australian-open

[dsc]

39. And look at what it took for him to have this happen

First you left out the first thing he did. Then he smashed his racket twice, then he swore for the second time at an umpire (she didn't swear at all), then he swore at the next level guy (again she didn't swear at all). So to summarize she did three things, he did six. She didn't swear, he did. Oh, and by this point in his career he had a rep for being a horror story of epic proportions. While her rep isn't pristine in this regard it isn't even close to as bad as his.

[janterry]

63. The rules were changed in the aftermath of Conner and McEnroe

and, as you probably know, - they were regularly booed for their boorish behaviors.

The rules were changed because of them - that's why you can't just break your racket in anger. They tightened the consequences BECAUSE of how they behaved.

You can't look back and compare the consequences, unless you don't know the hx of tennis. Their bad behavior changed what happens when someone behaves unprofessionally.

[dsc]

65. the rule change was prior to that match

it was the very first tournament he played under those rules. https://www.nytimes.com/2015/01/24/sports/tennis/mcenroe-takes-it-all-in-stride-25-years-after-epic-meltdown-at-australian-open.html

[stonecutter357]

53. lol fail !

[LenaBaby61]

61. Hell, WHITE MALE PRIVILEGE.

Got Lleyton Hewitt through his kerfuffel. I'm still waiting for Hewitt to be defaulted or at least fined 17 years later

Bet none of the folks you're talking to know about Lleyton Hewitts RACIST antics during the 2001 US Open which he was NEVER fined or defaulted for. By the way, Hewitt was a total and complete JERK for his whole career. A douche bag.

Double standards & sexism with a slight foundation of racism thrown in.

[dsc]

66. I actually looked this up since I couldn't recall the details of what he did

and it isn't even on his wikipedia page (nothing about his behavior is). He should have been at least fined for that and frankly probably should have lost a point (it was only two different things that he did so he didn't get a third strike).

[Yupster]

44. Yeah but aside from those

he got away with it.

[jberryhill]

48. What have the Romans ever done for us?

[mr_lebowski]

70. The Aqueduct?

And ... The Sanitation?

I mean, you remember what the city used to be like?

[USALiberal]

38. Wow, the booing was directed at her name being announced. nt

[Takket]

8. did they jeer becuse she was biracial or because they were upset with the umpire's calls?

[RhodeIslandOne]

12. They booed and jeered her.

She happens to be biracial.

I'm told these things don't happen in a bubble.

I thought it was classless, even if it was for the most "innocent" of reasons.

[Blue_true]

10. You are wrong, totally wrong.

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Your title is simply a bad choice. The booing was for what happened to Serena during the game. After Serena admonished the crowd for booing, it lustily cheered Osaka as she raised the trophy.

Great win for Japan, though I wanted Serena to win.

[onetexan]

42. Agree, the crowd was booing the bad umping

Serrna shod sue to ensure the ump never does another game.

[MineralMan]

11. Naomi Osaka won the match handily in straight sets.

Serena's issue had nothing to do with the win. As you say, it's too bad people booed, thus marring her victory celebration. Serena was outplayed. Congratulations to the winner. And I'm a big Serena Williams fan.

[Trust Buster]

14. Look, i thought Williams behaved very unprofessionally but this is just unnecessary race baiting IMO

[RhodeIslandOne]

15. I think American fans were being ugly Americans

In the era of Trump, it's now encouraged behavior.

[Trust Buster]

23. You just made the claim that the crowd was booing the Japanese player for being biracial and you

Preach to us about “ugly Americans” ? Really ?

[RhodeIslandOne]

24. Even the article I posted pointed out it was a partisan United States crowd

I could see why it would sting a little bit more given Osaka reps Japan.

They'd probably ease up if it was Sloane Stephens or Madison Keyes.

[Trust Buster]

26. Yes, the tournament was held in New York and not Tokyo. An astute observation.

[RhodeIslandOne]

28. And funny enough....

....I recall after Serena defeated Heather Watson at Wimbledon a few years back someone posted that they felt the British crowd was "typically entitled whites" for rooting so hard for Watson, a British national......who is also black.

They got none of the push back I'm getting.

[Trust Buster]

31. I just think you took it a step too far with wild speculation for effect.

I think Williams behaved badly and lost in straight sets because she was outplayed. I see no reason for hyperbole.

[pangaia]

16. Your thread heading is ridiculous. You should change it.

[RhodeIslandOne]

18. Why? It is what occured.

But in fact, I will change it and add something.

[pangaia]

19. I think you know why. Or should.

Osaka's race had nothing to do with it.
Zero
nada

[RhodeIslandOne]

22. I've heard that before

Before people act classless, they need to think about these things.

[Tipperary]

47. No. It is not what occurred. No one jeered Osaka.

I suppose you think you are clever, but this is silly.

[B2G]

17. So whites were booing a biracial woman because

they were pissed that an african american woman lost?

I don't think you've completely thought your racist narrative through.

[pangaia]

20. LOL !!!

[RhodeIslandOne]

21. Wait, my narrative is actually racist?

Or I've pointed out a narrative about racism?

[B2G]

29. Your narrative is ridiculous. Nt

[MuseRider]

51. I was thinking the same thing.

Whaaat?

This is not at all what happened, this OP sucks and is just trying to throw out some chum to see if we all will start fighting some more.

[Polly Hennessey]

30. Getting rather tired of the Williams'.

The word retire comes to mind. Ms. Oska is only 20 years old. She should not be treated the way she was simply because a diva had her panties in a twist.

[RhodeIslandOne]

32. I think Serena, despite her in match bad behavior....

....did the right thing in protecting Okada here. Had she remained silent, well, that would have been an issue. The crowd may have started throwing crap.

[brush]

60. Re-think that. Why retire if you've been in the last two major finals...

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after coming back from having a baby?

Beatting all those other players to get to a major final is a major achievement.

[LenaBaby61]

64. Well ...

After Serena was screwed royally at the 2004 US Open a white female co-worker said that she's "Happy" that Williams was out of the tournament because she's won "enough" and was "greedy," and that people were tired of seeing her face "That was mighty white of you" I told that same female co-worker, commenting on how MUCH somebody's allowed to win. Then she went on to make remarks about how much bigger she was than the "other" WTA players and about how much she intimated them I was going to say to that co-worker that maybe she would have rather have had blonde, white rich Maria Sharapova playing in the US Open final (I didn't say that though, as to escalate the situation because this situation was tense because it broke down amongst racial lines in our office, and especially the WAY she said what she said about Serena). I didn't know then what I know now about Sharapova, and that was that she was using a PED substance, Meldonium (For NO legitimate reason), which she was ultimately banned for in 2017. She still couldn't beat Serena Williams even though guzzling Meldonium for over a decade. Funny now that her career is in shambles since she CAN'T use her drug of choice any longer

[Awsi Dooger]

69. I'm tired of Serena

Venus has made a nice resurgence recently when it looked like her career might be over.

Serena was always my favorite. Early in their careers when Venus was superior I watched their styles and their body types and concluded that Serena would become much the best of the two. I said that on panel of a Las Vegas sports radio show to quite a bit of disagreement.

But Serena lost me more than a decade ago. I remember when she distinctly mouthed the word "bitch" at Justine Henin while preparing to return serve in one of their tense matches. Henin knocked Serena out of three consecutive majors at one point. Serena often refused to give any credit, and one time dismissed Henin's victory by saying something like, "I just walked out there and handed it to her."

The claim that she doesn't cheat is laughable. Her own coach is conceding he gives signals all the time yet Serena has the audacity to use sexism while telling the chair umpire she's a mother so no chance she cheats. I guess the coach is sending signals to the net itself. Meanwhile, Serena's coach during the second set was visibly giving instructions to go to the net more frequently, and smack on cue not only does Serena start doing that, but she wins several points in that fashion. The commentators during the Tennis Channel call of the match were pointing that out, long before the controversy. Big coincidence.

Last straw for me was the US Open final against Clijsters in 2009. Clijsters had just come out of retirement and had a one year old baby. Clijsters not only was unseeded in the US Open but needed a wild card entry just to compete in the event. She had only played single digit number of matches all year prior to the event. Her victory should have been remembered for a tremendous long shot comeback accomplishment but Serena spoiled all of that with her disgraceful conduct during the final...threatening to kill the asian female line judge who called her for a foot fault deep in the match. Serena then lied to the chair umpire about never saying that, which wasn't surprising at all, considering the source.

I frequent the major tennis forums all the time. They have a real-world appraisal of Serena Williams, which seldom shows up here.

[oberliner]

37. What did the black fans do?

[RelativelyJones]

40. Jesus, what a disgusting race-baiting headline. You should be ashamed.

[Pisces]

45. This was the only reason for the post. A theme of this poster.

[RhodeIslandOne]

49. A theme of mine?

I challenge you to find something I've posted like this.

[Jspur]

41. This thread lives up to the liberal stereotypes

of trying to desperately accuse anybody of racism and I say this as someone who is an Indian American. This is ludicrous and funny when you consider both women in this match are both both black. So let me get this straight the crowd booed a biracial black woman because she beat a black woman. The reality is the crowd booed Osaka not because of race but because of nationalism. They were upset that Serena who is an American lost the match.

[RhodeIslandOne]

50. If you read thru this thread, you'd realize I cited that as a possible reason

I adjusted my headline to cite she is repping Japan.

I'm just trying to find out the reasons this could have occurred.

[Ron Obvious]

43. Are you Philosslayer by any chance?

Your style matches his and you appeared shortly after he was PPR'ed for similar sort of race baiting and trolling.

[RelativelyJones]

67. +1

[Tipperary]

46. You should self delete this ridiculous op.

If not, you should be ashamed.

[stonecutter357]

52. Disgusting OP !

[stonecutter357]

54. if vote for a racists pos you are a racists pos !

[stonecutter357]

55. fuck trump !

[RhodeIslandOne]

58. I agree!

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/09/07/japan-has-become-the-obvious-target-for-trumps-next-trade-salvo.html

Japan has become the 'obvious target' for Trump's next trade salvo

Trump described his good relations with the Japanese leadership but then added: "Of course that will end as soon as I tell them how much they have to pay."


"There's a U.S. investigation into auto imports on the grounds of national security, which is a little strange. But, if you take Mexico, Canada and the EU out of it, Japan is the obvious target of that investigation into autos," said Derek Scissors, Asia economist at the American Enterprise Institute.


Analysts at geopolitical intelligence firm Stratfor said Japan could be insulated to some extent from U.S. trade action because of the many Japanese production facilities in the United States.

Trump's hatred towards one of our allies may be fueling all sorts of garbage in this country.

[Ferrets are Cool]

57. Your headline is just so wrong in so many ways. nt

[nolabear]

62. And men booed a woman. Must have been misogyny.

[JonLP24]

68. There shouldn't be any booing in tennis

Either cheer or clap but don't boo. Team sports is a different story.

[cstanleytech]

71. So what was your intent by creating your own header rather than using the one from the article of

"Naomi Osaka receives US Open trophy in tears after boos greet presentation ceremony" ?