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Cyrano

(15,027 posts)
Tue Sep 11, 2018, 02:58 PM Sep 2018

Will Collins and Murkowski vote for Kavanaugh?

Both Susan Collins, Republican Senator from Maine, and Lisa Murkowski, Republican Senator from Alaska, have expressed reservations about voting for Supreme Court nominee Kavanaugh.

If only one of them does, he'll be confirmed. But don't buy the bullshit. One of them might take the risk while the other skates free and looks "good" to her voters. Either way, Kavanaugh will be approved. That's a foregone conclusion given today's Republican insanity.

The Collins/Murkowski hemming and hawing is just a bit of Kabuki theater.

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Will Collins and Murkowski vote for Kavanaugh? (Original Post) Cyrano Sep 2018 OP
Collins will fold. She always does. Slight chance Murkowski votes against. Vinca Sep 2018 #1
I agree, Colins is an empty suit CanonRay Sep 2018 #2
The tribes are giving Murkowski a reminder of who put her in office RainCaster Sep 2018 #5
They should feed her to a polar bear Cyrano Sep 2018 #7
Both are party over country POS's kimbutgar Sep 2018 #3
If one of them folds, the other will almost certainly follow. Hortensis Sep 2018 #4
Absolutely budkin Sep 2018 #6
WTF is Wrong with them?? Cyrano Sep 2018 #8
I'll be shocked if they fold sellitman Sep 2018 #9
I wish all Democratic Senators would vote NO bunny planet Sep 2018 #10
Don't underestimate the power of the "Kool-Aid" Cyrano Sep 2018 #11

RainCaster

(10,842 posts)
5. The tribes are giving Murkowski a reminder of who put her in office
Tue Sep 11, 2018, 03:15 PM
Sep 2018

If she caves, its game over for her political career.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
4. If one of them folds, the other will almost certainly follow.
Tue Sep 11, 2018, 03:13 PM
Sep 2018

The plausible deniability about Kavanaugh they both desperately need would be blasted.

Both ME and AK are strongly pro-abortion states. Elevating Kavanaugh followed by replacement of Roe with authoritarian restrictions would mark the end of either's career and beginning of living her new identity as the woman who criminalized abortion. She'd be named until she died in coverage of teens and women sentenced to prison, dying for lack of medical care, and being forced to carry even doomed pregnancies to term.

Of course, these days one has to consider the chance that one or both are compromised in some way.

bunny planet

(10,875 posts)
10. I wish all Democratic Senators would vote NO
Tue Sep 11, 2018, 03:48 PM
Sep 2018

they would then expose Murkowski and especially Collins as the faux moderates that they are.....Collins will only vote no if she's sure a Democrat crossing the aisle will give her cover to do so....let's not give her that camouflage. 70% of the American people, Democrats and Republicans and Independents do not want Roe overturned....and even more don't want to lose their healthcare coverage. I just don't see the risks, even for red state Democrats to vote NO together in unity and expose the partisanship and lack of regard for women and the middle class and the poor by those Republicans who falsely represent themselves as moderates.

Cyrano

(15,027 posts)
11. Don't underestimate the power of the "Kool-Aid"
Tue Sep 11, 2018, 03:56 PM
Sep 2018

Murkowski and Collins have been drinking it for years.

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