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To Trump cultists in the Carolinas: (Original Post) catbyte Sep 2018 OP
I remember during Hurricane Harvey maryellen99 Sep 2018 #1
He shouldn't have FiveGoodMen Sep 2018 #29
That's because the Weather Channel is like the boy who cried wolf. Mariana Sep 2018 #36
My cousin's significant other is choosing to stay at his house on the ocean front. 3Hotdogs Sep 2018 #2
Is he prepared to die? CottonBear Sep 2018 #5
I survived Camille by going to Jackson. But going back-damn. nolabear Sep 2018 #32
You know the power of hurricanes. So sorry that everyone had to suffer Katrina's destruction. CottonBear Sep 2018 #35
Oh, those fucking levees. And really they still haven't improved much. nolabear Sep 2018 #39
sorry, but New Orleans Katrina flood is entirely Bush's fault azureblue Sep 2018 #47
Thanks. I know that the GOP & Bush did not fund the work of the ACOE. CottonBear Sep 2018 #50
Hey Nolabear! Grammy23 Sep 2018 #44
Tell her to tell him to write his Social Security number on one arm & one leg with a catbyte Sep 2018 #6
On the torso too. Yonnie3 Sep 2018 #14
Our small town was the place where Sandy came ashore. Tucker08087 Sep 2018 #17
My dad used to talk of the 1938 hurricane. Yonnie3 Sep 2018 #21
Yes, I know. Tucker08087 Sep 2018 #25
I knew the place. Yonnie3 Sep 2018 #27
That's pretty awesome! Tucker08087 Sep 2018 #28
My dad is a 1938 hurricane baby, born in Providence. Mariana Sep 2018 #37
According to the P.B.S. documentary, one guy at the Nat'l Weather Service saw the barometer. 3Hotdogs Sep 2018 #59
And phone number of next of kin. nt Ilsa Sep 2018 #20
And keep an axe in the attic. nolabear Sep 2018 #33
Tell him to write on his arm with a sharpie The Wizard Sep 2018 #13
Oh, I might be willing to risk riding it out myself cstanleytech Sep 2018 #43
limbaugh was explaining how liberals like to hype every hurricane as proof of the hoax certainot Sep 2018 #56
I guess the paper towels are ready to be thrown. gordianot Sep 2018 #3
Fake News. No such storm exists. dalton99a Sep 2018 #4
It will be diverted to commie NYC by thoughts and prayers...check the latest forecasts, heretics! Fred Sanders Sep 2018 #23
Not good DownriverDem Sep 2018 #7
Much more important to kidnap babies than to save lives. lagomorph777 Sep 2018 #18
No worry for the evangelical trumpers. pazzyanne Sep 2018 #8
They need to drop Pat R. into the eye of this hurricane so he'll shut up for once...nt SWBTATTReg Sep 2018 #26
I'd be okay with dropping him anywhere in the body of the hurricane. pazzyanne Sep 2018 #34
Pat Robertson prays in Jesus' name to command Hurricane Florence go out to sea. keithbvadu2 Sep 2018 #46
So, when all Hell breaks loose Haggis for Breakfast Sep 2018 #52
His prayers worked. Bernardo de La Paz Sep 2018 #54
Pat prayed for it to go out to sea, not come ashore to kill people. keithbvadu2 Sep 2018 #57
(agreeing with you for the sarcasm) keithbvadu2 Sep 2018 #58
Media or science world wide wally Sep 2018 #9
LOL. Prepare to hand out lots of Darwin Awards. Nitram Sep 2018 #10
Time for a rally and bbq on cape hatteras!!!! getagrip_already Sep 2018 #11
Fake News? Right dlk Sep 2018 #12
And some of them would stay put too, just to "trigger the libs". Initech Sep 2018 #15
They won't need aid to rebuild. lagomorph777 Sep 2018 #19
This has to be one of the best cartoons I have seen lately Perseus Sep 2018 #16
Perfect cartoon! duforsure Sep 2018 #22
I'm so aggravated I can hardly watch the coverage lillypaddle Sep 2018 #24
Thoughts and prayers to them. ffr Sep 2018 #30
Additional note to Trump groupies.. Permanut Sep 2018 #31
Nothing to fear, Carolinians, ... JustABozoOnThisBus Sep 2018 #38
Just tell them the GOVERNMENT made the forecast - the National Weather Service bucolic_frolic Sep 2018 #40
We have a good Dem governor. cwydro Sep 2018 #41
This fits here. irisblue Sep 2018 #42
K&R Scurrilous Sep 2018 #45
Trumpets who stay in place, of course, expect to be rescued by the same govt that they complain Pepsidog Sep 2018 #48
My concern is for those saidsimplesimon Sep 2018 #51
NOT "FAKE NEWS" orangecrush Sep 2018 #49
PERFECT!!!! Cha Sep 2018 #53
Gut-punch satire delivers a knockout blow. *thud* VOX Sep 2018 #55

maryellen99

(3,788 posts)
1. I remember during Hurricane Harvey
Wed Sep 12, 2018, 08:09 AM
Sep 2018

The Weather Channel meteorologist on location actually had to say the storm was a real threat and not fake news.

Mariana

(14,854 posts)
36. That's because the Weather Channel is like the boy who cried wolf.
Wed Sep 12, 2018, 01:26 PM
Sep 2018

They've spent so many years hyping up every little thing as if it's going to be a catastrophe. Many people consider them a joke and don't take anything they say seriously.

3Hotdogs

(12,374 posts)
2. My cousin's significant other is choosing to stay at his house on the ocean front.
Wed Sep 12, 2018, 08:17 AM
Sep 2018

I asked her to have him google, hurricane 1938.


Dumbass.

CottonBear

(21,596 posts)
5. Is he prepared to die?
Wed Sep 12, 2018, 08:25 AM
Sep 2018

My grandparents survived Camille. Frederik and several other Guif Coast hurricanes by securing their Gulf Shores, AL bayside home and boats, packing for a week (including all of their family photos) and heading inland to Bay Minette, AL to stay with friends until the storm passed.

Do not stay on the oceanfront, bayfront or on an island when a CAT 4 is bearing down on you unless you are prepared to die.

nolabear

(41,959 posts)
32. I survived Camille by going to Jackson. But going back-damn.
Wed Sep 12, 2018, 01:08 PM
Sep 2018

We lived in Pascagoula, probably 60 miles from Gulf Shores. I was a kid but remember it well. Years later I met a man who was on the team they had to helicopter in to cut up the trees that blocked all the roads so the rescue and recovery teams could get in. I don’t recall how long before we could get back but afterward it was weeks before we had power.

And that was nothing compared to Katrina. My people who are still there went through actual hell.

CottonBear

(21,596 posts)
35. You know the power of hurricanes. So sorry that everyone had to suffer Katrina's destruction.
Wed Sep 12, 2018, 01:18 PM
Sep 2018

The Army Corps of Engineers and FEMA should have and could have protected NOLA from flooding. But, the Federal, State and Local GOP didn't want to spend the money to build and maintain the infrastructure and to build what new infrastructure was needed.

Never mind the terrible racism in the aftermath of Katrina. Bush, the GOP and the GOP FEMA leaders were inhuman and evil in their lack of any response to help people who were dying. It was hell. It still is hell for those who were "relocated" and who can never go home.

I had family down in Slidell and Lacombe during Katrina. It was bad.

nolabear

(41,959 posts)
39. Oh, those fucking levees. And really they still haven't improved much.
Wed Sep 12, 2018, 02:02 PM
Sep 2018

My people were in Covington and got out. But my sister is a 911 operator in MS far enough in that they didn’t blow away but did lose power. The emergency generators at the station kept them online but they didn’t have TV or a way of knowing what was going on on the coast. The 911 system there shut down and calls got rerouted to them. So she got hysterical calls from trapped people, got me on her cell phone because I could watch in horror from up here in the PNW and tell her what they were saying, and she’d try to give them some idea how long it would go on. It was bloody surreal.

That was MS. Then we watched people drown in NO. It was a nightmare.

azureblue

(2,146 posts)
47. sorry, but New Orleans Katrina flood is entirely Bush's fault
Wed Sep 12, 2018, 07:25 PM
Sep 2018

February 2001
Bush’s first budget proposed more than half a billion dollars worth of cuts to the Army Corps of Engineers for the 2002 fiscal year. Bush proposed half of what his own officials said was necessary for the critical Southeast Louisiana Flood Control Project (SELA)—a project started after a 1995 rainstorm flooded 25,000 homes and caused a half billion dollars in damage.

Bush did this to offset the tax break he gave to the top 1% of rich Americans. The first major economic initiative pursued by the president was a massive tax cut for the rich, enacted in June of 2001. Bush signed his massive $1.3 trillion income tax cut into law-a tax cut that severely depleted the government of revenues it needed to address critical priorities.

February 2002
Bush provided just $5 million for maintaining and upgrading critical hurricane protection levees in New Orleans—one fifth of what government experts and Republican elected officials in Louisiana told the administration was needed. Bush knew SELA needed $80 million to keep working, but the he only proposed providing a quarter of that.

During 2002, contractors working to raise the St. Charles Parish hurricane protection levee north of Airline Hwy had to use their own funds because Congress and the President provided only $2,000,000 for the entire Lake Pontchartrain and Vicinity project, which includes all the hurricane protection levees in St. Charles, Jefferson, Orleans and St. Bernard Parishes.

February 2004
The SELA project sought $100 million to repair the Mississippi River and Lake Pontchartrain levees, but Bush offered only $16.5 million. The Army Corps of Engineers asked for $27 million to pay for hurricane protection upgrades around Lake Pontchartrain—but the White House cut that to $3.9 million. Gaps in levees around Lake Pontchartrain & the Industrial Canal, which were supposed to be filled by 2004, were not filled because of budget shortfalls. Repair work on the levees, including the ones that failed, was stopped due to lack of funds.

It has been popular to blame the ACOE, because they maintain the levees, but the reality is they can't do the work if they don't have the money.

CottonBear

(21,596 posts)
50. Thanks. I know that the GOP & Bush did not fund the work of the ACOE.
Wed Sep 12, 2018, 10:24 PM
Sep 2018

I do not place any blame on the ACOE. I apologize if I was unclear on that point.

Thanks for the information n your post. I have huge respect for the ACOE. I worked in the civil engineering field for over 29 years.

Grammy23

(5,810 posts)
44. Hey Nolabear!
Wed Sep 12, 2018, 06:02 PM
Sep 2018

I lived in Gautier, Miss when Camille hit. My mom called me (we were at my mother in law’s Home in Helena) from her job as a nurse at the VA in Biloxi to alert us. That was before we had weeks to anticipate a storm so we were pretty clueless what was headed our way. She was required to stay on duty at the VA on Back Bay Biloxi but told us we needed to get out. We came back home and loaded up the things we could cram in our 1967 Mustang and our 6 week old son and headed to Meridian, Ms where my sister lived.

We stayed with my sister until they allowed us back. I don’t remember how long that was but I do remember that they let us cross the bridge between Ocean Springs and Biloxi that was a horrible mess! We drove along Hwy 90 through Biloxi and toward Gulfport and could only gawk and cry at the devastation. Two days before the storm hit, my family had celebrated my sister’s birthday at Baricev’s Seafood Restaurant on the beach in Biloxi. All that was left were pilings in the sand. Not one scrap of the restaurant was still there. The devastation was the worst thing I had seen in my whole life (I was 20 at the time.) Storms are no laughing matter and definitely no excuse to have a party. We also saw the slab where the Richelieu Apartments had been along Hwy 90 in Long Beach. Many deaths happened there when the storm surge swept the hurricane partiers to their deaths.

catbyte

(34,374 posts)
6. Tell her to tell him to write his Social Security number on one arm & one leg with a
Wed Sep 12, 2018, 08:41 AM
Sep 2018

Sharpie to make identification of his body easier. They're predicting a 13' storm surge. That's higher than a 2-story house.

Tucker08087

(621 posts)
17. Our small town was the place where Sandy came ashore.
Wed Sep 12, 2018, 10:05 AM
Sep 2018

That’s the exact message that the police gave to anyone who refused to leave (ss# and names on all people, especially children, to identify the bodies). The flooding happened way before the storm hit, so most who thought they would ride it out, got frightened and evacuated. There was one final call that the storm was too powerful for rescue crews to go out again. Basically a now or never announcement, and it was really bad by then. Few lives were lost because it came in so slowly. One man was found days later floating on the second floor. The water was higher than his ceiling, so they assume he drowned. One family’s house crumbled into the water. The coast guard tried to save them, but their boat was crashing into debris and they had to turn back, listening to their screams. We had entire blocks of homes just wash completely away. And, although Sandy was taken off the hurricane list, because it merged with a Nor’easter, it was a monster, but not a cat 4. One father of a family that stayed, but made it, said that he was sobbing on the second day, thinking, “I killed my family.” Staying is putting your life at risk as well as the lives of people who will inevitably try to rescue you.

Tucker08087

(621 posts)
25. Yes, I know.
Wed Sep 12, 2018, 10:51 AM
Sep 2018

Actually, Tucker, in my case, is in reference to my town, Tuckerton, named after Ebeneezer Tucker. There’s a huge monument in the cemetery downtown where he was buried.

Yonnie3

(17,432 posts)
27. I knew the place.
Wed Sep 12, 2018, 11:01 AM
Sep 2018

I used to have friends in Barnegat and Toms River. It has been quite a while since I've been there.

Tucker08087

(621 posts)
28. That's pretty awesome!
Wed Sep 12, 2018, 11:09 AM
Sep 2018

Most people from NJ don’t even know that we exist. During the eye of the storm, we had power for about 10 minutes. I quickly blew up an air matress, turned on the Weather Channel, and tried to get the sump pump running. When I saw Jim Cantori from the Weather Channel standing in the gazebo at the end of Main Street, I knew we were screwed. I remember saying, “Um, guys? Tuckerton is in the weather channel. Jim Cantori is on South Green Street.” The basic reply was, “Shit. That can’t be good.” We’ve only been on TV twice, and once was when a bomb dropped on our school from the Air Force practicing nearby. (There’s a bombing range not far away. The pilot was off course.)
My paternal grandparents lived in Forked River and my mother-in-law lived in Barnegat.

Mariana

(14,854 posts)
37. My dad is a 1938 hurricane baby, born in Providence.
Wed Sep 12, 2018, 01:34 PM
Sep 2018

My grandmother had to get to a hospital, the doctors predicted complications which did arise, and she and my dad would have died if she'd stayed home. My grandparents did have some stories to tell about that adventure.

3Hotdogs

(12,374 posts)
59. According to the P.B.S. documentary, one guy at the Nat'l Weather Service saw the barometer.
Thu Sep 13, 2018, 12:27 PM
Sep 2018

Figured it was broken because it had never registered that low, before. So he didn't bother to issue a warning.

nolabear

(41,959 posts)
33. And keep an axe in the attic.
Wed Sep 12, 2018, 01:10 PM
Sep 2018

Because you might well have to chop through the roof when the house you’re in floods to the rafters.

That was the top advice people who survived Katrina gave.

The Wizard

(12,541 posts)
13. Tell him to write on his arm with a sharpie
Wed Sep 12, 2018, 09:22 AM
Sep 2018

Name, social security number and next of kin so as to make identifying the body easier.

cstanleytech

(26,284 posts)
43. Oh, I might be willing to risk riding it out myself
Wed Sep 12, 2018, 05:32 PM
Sep 2018

if I had the money to build a house that could withstand both the maximum potential winds and storm surge but to build a house that could withstand both would probably be extremely expensive so unless your cousins significant other is that wealthy they need to get their butt inland.

 

certainot

(9,090 posts)
56. limbaugh was explaining how liberals like to hype every hurricane as proof of the hoax
Thu Sep 13, 2018, 07:57 AM
Sep 2018

of global warming..... they always say it's worse than it's going to be...

and that's all mixed in with the continued denial of russian collusion....

dalton99a

(81,455 posts)
4. Fake News. No such storm exists.
Wed Sep 12, 2018, 08:18 AM
Sep 2018

If you see stuff on TV, they're all crisis actors. And the water? It's fake. It's probably not even wet.

Your TV not working? It's the Deep State doing that

DownriverDem

(6,228 posts)
7. Not good
Wed Sep 12, 2018, 08:49 AM
Sep 2018

We now find out that trump et al diverted almost 10 million dollars to ICE for border lock ups. Good luck SE border states. trump throwing paper towels is not going to help.

pazzyanne

(6,549 posts)
8. No worry for the evangelical trumpers.
Wed Sep 12, 2018, 08:52 AM
Sep 2018

Pat Roberson has held a prayer meeting where he prayed the hurricane away.

pazzyanne

(6,549 posts)
34. I'd be okay with dropping him anywhere in the body of the hurricane.
Wed Sep 12, 2018, 01:14 PM
Sep 2018

There are a lot of people that believe what he was saying. My grandmother always told me that God helps them who help themselves. A great lesson from a wise woman.

keithbvadu2

(36,775 posts)
46. Pat Robertson prays in Jesus' name to command Hurricane Florence go out to sea.
Wed Sep 12, 2018, 07:07 PM
Sep 2018

Pat Robertson prays in Jesus' name to command Hurricane Florence go out to sea.



Now it's time to stop these hurricane preparations and evacuations foolishness.

-----------------

So how much faith does the 700 Club truly have in Jesus?

They are collecting money for Florence.

https://www.ob.org/?s=florence

Haggis for Breakfast

(6,831 posts)
52. So, when all Hell breaks loose
Wed Sep 12, 2018, 11:38 PM
Sep 2018

and hundreds (or worse) homes are destroyed and lives are lost, we can blame Pat Robertson.

Who in their right mind is still listening to this rabid old fool ?

Bernardo de La Paz

(48,999 posts)
54. His prayers worked.
Thu Sep 13, 2018, 02:07 AM
Sep 2018

Latest track of the storm has changed and now forecasts it will track just offshore at hurricane strength and rake the coast for a much wider area of destruction than a direct hit.

Thanks, Pat. Well done.

keithbvadu2

(36,775 posts)
57. Pat prayed for it to go out to sea, not come ashore to kill people.
Thu Sep 13, 2018, 08:28 AM
Sep 2018

Pat prayed for it to go out to sea, not come ashore to kill people.

getagrip_already

(14,712 posts)
11. Time for a rally and bbq on cape hatteras!!!!
Wed Sep 12, 2018, 08:59 AM
Sep 2018

If we were russian bots and it was dems that were staying put, you know they would be egging them on.

No matter, fox has it covered. Those who stay behind have their made in china maga camo gear and guns to protect them.

Initech

(100,063 posts)
15. And some of them would stay put too, just to "trigger the libs".
Wed Sep 12, 2018, 09:34 AM
Sep 2018

Go ahead and trigger us, guys. But when you need federal aid to rebuild, don't come crawling to us.

 

Perseus

(4,341 posts)
16. This has to be one of the best cartoons I have seen lately
Wed Sep 12, 2018, 10:05 AM
Sep 2018

Right to the gut...it should be sent to everyone you know.

duforsure

(11,885 posts)
22. Perfect cartoon!
Wed Sep 12, 2018, 10:38 AM
Sep 2018

And watch how they screw the people over like they've done to everyone else after disasters. turmps claims are a joke and only show how corrupt and how a big a liar he really is. He lies freely to the American people because he has nothing but contempt for all those not exactly like him.

lillypaddle

(9,580 posts)
24. I'm so aggravated I can hardly watch the coverage
Wed Sep 12, 2018, 10:48 AM
Sep 2018

There's the 10 million transferred to ICE to tear MORE families apart & keep them in cages. There's Brock Long blaming Puerto Rico for it's death and destruction. And of course there's that asshole trump ...

People, stay safe. Your government is totally fucked and it's up to you.

Permanut

(5,602 posts)
31. Additional note to Trump groupies..
Wed Sep 12, 2018, 12:51 PM
Sep 2018

All that fake hurricane information is brought to you by the government. Another reason to ignore it.

JustABozoOnThisBus

(23,338 posts)
38. Nothing to fear, Carolinians, ...
Wed Sep 12, 2018, 01:35 PM
Sep 2018

... Trump will give the same amazing level of support that he gave the victims of Maria in Puerto Rico.

So relax, enjoy the storm surge, and try to keep the umbrella in your drink.

bucolic_frolic

(43,133 posts)
40. Just tell them the GOVERNMENT made the forecast - the National Weather Service
Wed Sep 12, 2018, 03:26 PM
Sep 2018

Tell them Sean Hannity says sunny skies and fair sailing

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
41. We have a good Dem governor.
Wed Sep 12, 2018, 03:30 PM
Sep 2018

No one is ignoring this storm.

People decide to stay in every storm: nothing to do with the shitgibbon.

Pepsidog

(6,254 posts)
48. Trumpets who stay in place, of course, expect to be rescued by the same govt that they complain
Wed Sep 12, 2018, 07:36 PM
Sep 2018

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