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workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
Wed Sep 12, 2018, 11:58 AM Sep 2018

Eric Trump's ugly 'three extra shekels' attack on Bob Woodward draws accusations of anti-Semitism

David Badash, The New Civil Rights Movement 12 SEP 2018 AT 10:26 ET

Eric Trump is lashing out at veteran Watergate journalist Bob Woodward, and his remarks are drawing accusations of anti-Semitism. Wednesday morning the president’s son charged the author of “Fear” – the latest bombshell book exposing the Trump administration as inept and corrupt – with writing it “to make 3 extra shekels.”

The shekel is both an ancient and modern-day form of currency in Israel, but it can also evoke ugly old bigoted and anti-Semitic stereotypes about Jewish people.








https://www.rawstory.com/2018/09/eric-trumps-ugly-three-extra-shekels-attack-bob-woodward-draws-accusations-anti-semitism/
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Eric Trump's ugly 'three extra shekels' attack on Bob Woodward draws accusations of anti-Semitism (Original Post) workinclasszero Sep 2018 OP
Okay, Jared, the ball's in your court. NT mahatmakanejeeves Sep 2018 #1
How about Stephen Miller? workinclasszero Sep 2018 #5
Damn, I hate that entire fucking family !!!!!! SamKnause Sep 2018 #2
God these people are hateful, MuseRider Sep 2018 #3
And Woodward isn't Jewish - dumbass Eric probably got him mixed up with Bernstein. The Velveteen Ocelot Sep 2018 #4
Wrong Drumph. marble falls Sep 2018 #6
Oh, right. I'll fix. They're all stupid. The Velveteen Ocelot Sep 2018 #8
I know. The only bright side is neither nitwit has any future in the news ... marble falls Sep 2018 #11
I Didn't Think itcfish Sep 2018 #10
He isn't - I assume dumb Eric got him mixed up with Bernstein - but yes, it doesn't matter. The Velveteen Ocelot Sep 2018 #13
"Ugly, racist and stupid is no way to go through life son" smirkymonkey Sep 2018 #39
Wow! That was deliberate. Cartoonist Sep 2018 #7
"Niggardly" has nothing to do with the N-word. The Velveteen Ocelot Sep 2018 #12
No Cartoonist Sep 2018 #20
I agree. Just saying that it was only recently The Velveteen Ocelot Sep 2018 #21
an older, more academic sort of person Cartoonist Sep 2018 #32
It's a word that you'll find in older literary works, The Velveteen Ocelot Sep 2018 #33
I've had to work to force that out of my vocabulary. WillowTree Sep 2018 #35
Its origins are Old Norse, so maybe that's where your family got it The Velveteen Ocelot Sep 2018 #36
9 out of 10 Americans, hell even 9 of 10 Deplorables, don't have the word shekel in their lexicon RockRaven Sep 2018 #9
Maybe nimrod was thinking "30 pieces of silver"? marble falls Sep 2018 #23
Screw you, racist! Cracklin Charlie Sep 2018 #14
I wish the juniors would just shut the hell up grumpyduck Sep 2018 #15
Nazi version of The Smothers Brothers peekaloo Sep 2018 #16
Jebus, what a thought ... I'ma going to stand out on the deck for a minute ... gotta lighter? marble falls Sep 2018 #24
*snort* peekaloo Sep 2018 #27
Stupid is what stupid is...Clearly Erick has joined the stupid club, and the antisemetic club, and Stuart G Sep 2018 #17
A dumbass like him wouldn't just say "shekels", instead of say, "bucks". OnDoutside Sep 2018 #18
Well, do you think Eric will apologize for this?..Odds please?..let's see........... Stuart G Sep 2018 #19
The defense will be that Woodward isn't Jewish, Behind the Aegis Sep 2018 #22
You're probably right gratuitous Sep 2018 #25
The Trump family, Daddy especially, hate it when anyone makes money from something The Velveteen Ocelot Sep 2018 #30
That's no defense, of course. The Velveteen Ocelot Sep 2018 #26
This +1 bronxiteforever Sep 2018 #28
that almost makes it worse. unblock Sep 2018 #31
Almost. Behind the Aegis Sep 2018 #41
As opposed to the 30 pieces of silver the Trump family prefers in compensation... backscatter712 Sep 2018 #29
Bob Woodward is 75 years old PatSeg Sep 2018 #34
And has either Ivanka and/or her husband spit back what a blatant Antisemite no_hypocrisy Sep 2018 #37
If they talk like this on tv,what do they say to each other in their private lairs under bridges? Cousin Dupree Sep 2018 #38
keep talking Eric, oh and next time, be sure to do the Hitler salute steve2470 Sep 2018 #40
father don passed his 'virtues' on to his children spanone Sep 2018 #42
The Trump family has an affinity for Nazis. Dawson Leery Sep 2018 #43
Shitler said there were good Nazis and KKK terrorists workinclasszero Sep 2018 #45
That's what it sounds like to me. Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Sep 2018 #44

MuseRider

(34,104 posts)
3. God these people are hateful,
Wed Sep 12, 2018, 12:03 PM
Sep 2018

low class and bigoted. People like that want to make you think they are so much better than those "others". Really? The Trump family better than who? Nobody, that is who. Disgusting assholes, every single one of them. We need to fumigate the White house and get rid of all the tacky gold crap that they have put around the place. Just like the f'king Russian Zsars. No kidding dogs are barking. That was no whistle, that was a firm tug on the leash with the threat of a lash.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,661 posts)
4. And Woodward isn't Jewish - dumbass Eric probably got him mixed up with Bernstein.
Wed Sep 12, 2018, 12:04 PM
Sep 2018

Which means he's not only antisemitic but stupid.

marble falls

(57,063 posts)
11. I know. The only bright side is neither nitwit has any future in the news ...
Wed Sep 12, 2018, 12:12 PM
Sep 2018

after cheetolini gets an orange jump suit.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
39. "Ugly, racist and stupid is no way to go through life son"
Wed Sep 12, 2018, 06:32 PM
Sep 2018

What a little bastard! Chip off the old block.

Cartoonist

(7,314 posts)
7. Wow! That was deliberate.
Wed Sep 12, 2018, 12:08 PM
Sep 2018

I liken that to the use of the word niggardly. While it's definition is plain, you have to go out of your way to use it. And there's only one reason to do so.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,661 posts)
12. "Niggardly" has nothing to do with the N-word.
Wed Sep 12, 2018, 12:14 PM
Sep 2018

It's etymologically unrelated. "From Middle English nigard, nygard (“miser”), from nig (“niggardly person”), possibly of Scandinavian origin; compare Old Norse hnǫggr (“miserly, stingy”). Possibly cognate to niggle (“miser”).[1] Compare German Knicker (“niggard”), knickerig (“niggardly”)." https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/niggard#English However, because of the mistaken etymology most people avoid using it. If someone does use it I wouldn't automatically assume they were dog-whistling; it would depend on both the speaker and the context.

Cartoonist

(7,314 posts)
20. No
Wed Sep 12, 2018, 12:42 PM
Sep 2018

There are other words that are easier to use. Cheap, miserly, penny pincher. You have to deliberately choose an arcane word.

Trumpson could have used coins, dollars, bread, money, or any other word in common usage. He chose that one from his racist thesaurus.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,661 posts)
21. I agree. Just saying that it was only recently
Wed Sep 12, 2018, 12:45 PM
Sep 2018

that "niggardly" became a dangerous word to use. I can imagine an older, more academic sort of person using it without any bad intent. If a Trumpite used it, of course the dog whistle would be very loud. An interesting discussion of the word is here: https://www.theroot.com/no-niggardly-isn-t-the-n-word-1790874495

Cartoonist

(7,314 posts)
32. an older, more academic sort of person
Wed Sep 12, 2018, 01:40 PM
Sep 2018

Yes, but only if they used it long ago.

Tolkien used it once in The Lord of the Rings. It was still jarring.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,661 posts)
33. It's a word that you'll find in older literary works,
Wed Sep 12, 2018, 01:53 PM
Sep 2018

and if a professor of English literature used it during a lecture I wouldn't bat an eye. If a Republican politician used it, however.... It's kind of unfortunate that a perfectly harmless word needs to be avoided just because it sounds like an etymologically-unrelated word that's the worst racial slur in modern English, but there it is. A person who'd use it these days (other than a professor of English literature or linguistics) is either dog-whistling or extremely naive. Fortunately there are a lot of good synonyms.

WillowTree

(5,325 posts)
35. I've had to work to force that out of my vocabulary.
Wed Sep 12, 2018, 02:05 PM
Sep 2018

Could be because my Mother was first generation born here. The vast majority of everyone she was related to were from Norway. It was a word I heard a lot and was used correctly in the correct context when I was growing up. I get why it's best not to use it in today's environment, but still, takes a little doing to always remember.

Referencing the OP, I frankly don't see how the mere use of the word "shekels" is in any way a slur, particularly in the context in question. Looks like people looking for something to be offended by to me.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,661 posts)
36. Its origins are Old Norse, so maybe that's where your family got it
Wed Sep 12, 2018, 04:13 PM
Sep 2018

though the only Norwegian word I know for "stingy" is "stikkende." I guess maybe because I'm old, it's not a word I ever associated with racism (I always knew what it meant and that it had nothing to do with that other word), but I guess it's best avoided.

RockRaven

(14,955 posts)
9. 9 out of 10 Americans, hell even 9 of 10 Deplorables, don't have the word shekel in their lexicon
Wed Sep 12, 2018, 12:09 PM
Sep 2018

nor would it occur to them to use it in an insult or joke.

It says a lot about where his thoughts are at in general that THIS is the image or metaphor which comes to mind.

Cracklin Charlie

(12,904 posts)
14. Screw you, racist!
Wed Sep 12, 2018, 12:17 PM
Sep 2018

Mr. Woodward gonna bring home a LOT MORE than 3 sheckles! Jealous.

You’ll be lucky if you only get shackles.

grumpyduck

(6,231 posts)
15. I wish the juniors would just shut the hell up
Wed Sep 12, 2018, 12:18 PM
Sep 2018

What would have happened if other presidents' kids had been so public?

peekaloo

(22,977 posts)
16. Nazi version of The Smothers Brothers
Wed Sep 12, 2018, 12:22 PM
Sep 2018

always trying to out asshole each other for Daddy's love yet Daddy probably despises both of them equally.

Stuart G

(38,414 posts)
17. Stupid is what stupid is...Clearly Erick has joined the stupid club, and the antisemetic club, and
Wed Sep 12, 2018, 12:22 PM
Sep 2018
the idiot club...all at once.. He too cannot keep his mouth shut....All in the family.....

Stuart G

(38,414 posts)
19. Well, do you think Eric will apologize for this?..Odds please?..let's see...........
Wed Sep 12, 2018, 12:41 PM
Sep 2018

one in ten million ...no, not great enough...one in ten billion that Erick will apologize

................that is it.!!!!!!!!!!

Behind the Aegis

(53,939 posts)
22. The defense will be that Woodward isn't Jewish,
Wed Sep 12, 2018, 12:50 PM
Sep 2018

Therefore, it can't be anti-Semitic. I have seen that excuse used repeatedly. Or, some of his best friends are Jews (including his sister), that is a very popular excuse, and not just with the right. Perhaps, he will apologize and say, "I meant to say he was getting his pound of flesh"; that will surely excuse it away for many. Anti-semitism is neve rout of vogue, and this administration has made sure it is coming more into the light than ever.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
25. You're probably right
Wed Sep 12, 2018, 12:56 PM
Sep 2018

Rather than admit that Eric fucked up and didn't know Woodward isn't Jewish, he'll turn it around to make himself out to be the REAL victim of anti-Semitism.

What's of interest to me is anyone in the Trump family getting bent out of shape because someone is trying to make some extra coin. That whole fam damily is ever in hot pursuit of an extra dollar, even if they have to defraud their own customers (Trump University) or cheat their vendors (too many to count).

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,661 posts)
30. The Trump family, Daddy especially, hate it when anyone makes money from something
Wed Sep 12, 2018, 01:01 PM
Sep 2018

that involves them. In this case Woodward is profiting from a book that is critical of Trump, which drives them especially crazy. They hate criticism anyhow, and the fact that Woodward will sell a lot of books and make money is just killing them.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,661 posts)
26. That's no defense, of course.
Wed Sep 12, 2018, 12:57 PM
Sep 2018

The context is pretty obvious. And my own theory is that Eric is dumb enough to have mixed up Woodward and Bernstein, who is Jewish; and in that case the use of the word is obviously and intentionally anti-Semitic.

Behind the Aegis

(53,939 posts)
41. Almost.
Wed Sep 12, 2018, 08:40 PM
Sep 2018

Of course, it is quite typical, and is almost as bad as those who can't muster up disgust about the attack without bringing up how other Jews should or shouldn't respond. When it comes to anti-Semitism, some just can't help themselves; it is low-lying fruit. To be quite honest, I am actually a bit surprised that people even caught it, much less reacted to it. So, progress...I guess.

PatSeg

(47,370 posts)
34. Bob Woodward is 75 years old
Wed Sep 12, 2018, 02:05 PM
Sep 2018

He is the recipient of almost every major American journalism award, has written or co-authored eighteen nonfiction books, and has written about every administration since Nixon. Why wouldn't he write about the Trump administration Eric? In the meantime, I don't think Woodward is all that concerned about money.

Of course, the Trump family is not the most well read family, so Eric probably has no idea how many books Woodward has written or how successful and respected he is. Just because the Trumps live in a tabloid based world, they assume everyone else does as well.

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
45. Shitler said there were good Nazis and KKK terrorists
Wed Sep 12, 2018, 10:22 PM
Sep 2018

at Cville after they murdered an innocent girl.

So yeah, hate runs in the family. Trumps daddy was a klansman terrorist too.

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