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Yavin4

(35,421 posts)
Fri Sep 14, 2018, 02:14 PM Sep 2018

Show me a state with world class universities or colleges, and I will show you a blue state

or at the very least a purple one. From just a cursory examination of US News and World Report's ranking of top universities and colleges, there seems to be a correlation between number of highly ranked universities in a state and how blue the state is.

Is this causation or just correlation?

/www.usnews.com/best-colleges/rankings/national-universities

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Show me a state with world class universities or colleges, and I will show you a blue state (Original Post) Yavin4 Sep 2018 OP
Correlation: The more educated one is, the more likely they are to be liberal scheming daemons Sep 2018 #1
Like these? greymattermom Sep 2018 #2
Taking each state one by one. Yavin4 Sep 2018 #4
I'm not sure about that Sgent Sep 2018 #22
Okay. They don't fit. A few exceptions don't negate the model. n/t Yavin4 Sep 2018 #24
Missouri S&T my alma mater Kurt V. Sep 2018 #27
Correction: Show me a CITY with world class educational facilities and it will likely be a blue city blogslut Sep 2018 #3
Sort of agree. Blue_true Sep 2018 #10
The University of Arkansas is in Fayetteville - which is blue. TomSlick Sep 2018 #15
Thanks, I can use partial credit this week. Blue_true Sep 2018 #16
I feel your pain down here in the South Arkansas piney woods. TomSlick Sep 2018 #17
Are you retired? Heard that is a problem when people retire. Blue_true Sep 2018 #19
Nope. If I was retired, I don't think I'd care which day of the week it is. TomSlick Sep 2018 #20
My brother is set, he will be ok. Blue_true Sep 2018 #21
University of North Carolina. Is NC blue? pnwmom Sep 2018 #5
NC is purple. Democratic governor. Yavin4 Sep 2018 #8
And I'll show you super high tuition. aikoaiko Sep 2018 #6
UWashington and UNC were listed at the top of WSJ's list for "best value," pnwmom Sep 2018 #9
Sure. not everyone. Its helps to have supportive state legislators or billion dollar endowments aikoaiko Sep 2018 #14
Blue Rhode Island: Brown/Pembroke Totally Tunsie Sep 2018 #7
Where is Seton Hall located? nt Blue_true Sep 2018 #11
It's in New Jersey jmowreader Sep 2018 #12
Thanks, I was clueless on it. nt Blue_true Sep 2018 #13
You premise has lots of holes. Indiana for instance. GulfCoast66 Sep 2018 #18
Granted Indiana, MO are holes. They are the two exceptions. Yavin4 Sep 2018 #25
Nope. Duke and UNC. Tulane. nolabear Sep 2018 #23
NC is a purple state. It's becoming VA. n/t Yavin4 Sep 2018 #26

greymattermom

(5,751 posts)
2. Like these?
Fri Sep 14, 2018, 02:33 PM
Sep 2018

North Carolina, Tennessee, Texas, Georgia, Missouri, Indiana, Pennsylvania, Michigan, Virginia, Ohio, Louisiana, Wisconsin, Florida?

Yavin4

(35,421 posts)
4. Taking each state one by one.
Fri Sep 14, 2018, 05:42 PM
Sep 2018

Tennesse does not fit, but only has one world class university.
Texas doesn't fit, but their cities are more Democratic than you think. Nearly Purple.
Georgia doesn't fit but it may be purple soon.
Missouri does not fit but also does not have many top universities/colleges according the rankings
Indiana does not fit but also does not have many top universities/colleges according the rankings
Louisiana does not fit, but also does not have many top universities/colleges according the rankings


Penn., Mich., Ohio, Wisc., and Fla are all swing states. Some have Democratic governors, US Senators, etc. They are definitely purple so they fit.

Virginia is blue.


So, I would argue that six of the examples that you've pointed out do not fit, but they also really don't have that many top universities according to the rankings. Five of the states definitely fit because they are purple, and one state VA is blue.

Sgent

(5,857 posts)
22. I'm not sure about that
Fri Sep 14, 2018, 11:31 PM
Sep 2018

Indiana has 3 in the top 100 (IU, Purdue, Notre Dame) as well as some nationally ranked colleges (Rose-Hulman, Depaw). Given the population of IN that's pretty impressive.

MO has Wash U with UM and St Louis U just outside the Top 100. Per capital they are probably pretty good.

blogslut

(37,985 posts)
3. Correction: Show me a CITY with world class educational facilities and it will likely be a blue city
Fri Sep 14, 2018, 02:37 PM
Sep 2018

Cities where the state capitol resides also tend to be blue.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
10. Sort of agree.
Fri Sep 14, 2018, 07:21 PM
Sep 2018

But, I would say where the state Capitol is AND one or more major universities are. Ohio, Columbus Capitol and home of the Ohio State University, Lousiana, Baton Rouge Capitol and home of LSU, Arkansas, Fayetteville Capitol and home of the Unicersity of Arkansas, Florida (some exceptions, but is is also the third most populous state) Tallahassee Capitol and home of Florida A&M and Florida State University, but Gainesville, home of the University of Florida (around 54,000 students) is very blue, as are Orlando (Central Florida U) and Miami (University of Miami, Florida Atlantic U, others)

TomSlick

(11,088 posts)
15. The University of Arkansas is in Fayetteville - which is blue.
Fri Sep 14, 2018, 09:43 PM
Sep 2018

The capital of Arkansas is Little Rock - which is also blue. So you get partial credit.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
16. Thanks, I can use partial credit this week.
Fri Sep 14, 2018, 10:15 PM
Sep 2018

I somehow lost a day, eventhough I knew it was that day when I started the morning of that day. Should have just looked at my phone's home page.

TomSlick

(11,088 posts)
17. I feel your pain down here in the South Arkansas piney woods.
Fri Sep 14, 2018, 10:19 PM
Sep 2018

It's getting to the point that remaining oriented to time is a challenge.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
19. Are you retired? Heard that is a problem when people retire.
Fri Sep 14, 2018, 10:44 PM
Sep 2018

My issue is that I have been advocating for my oldest brother, while working on another project as well as run the activities of my company. Last week I actually felt discombobulated on some days. I have the situation with my brother corrected and him happy, so maybe next week life gets back to normal for me. Have a great weekend.

TomSlick

(11,088 posts)
20. Nope. If I was retired, I don't think I'd care which day of the week it is.
Fri Sep 14, 2018, 10:52 PM
Sep 2018

When you spend all day jumping through your ass, it's hard to keep up with little things like the day of the week. With all the jumping through my ass, I have a hard enough time keeping up with whether I'm right side out.

Glad you got your brother's situation straightened out.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
21. My brother is set, he will be ok.
Fri Sep 14, 2018, 11:13 PM
Sep 2018

Your first paragraph described my situation so well. Sometime a person can take on too many things at once and lose track of some things. It is like the mind skips somewhat.

pnwmom

(108,959 posts)
9. UWashington and UNC were listed at the top of WSJ's list for "best value,"
Fri Sep 14, 2018, 07:18 PM
Sep 2018

along with a small private college that gives free tuition.

So the tuition doesn't have to be super high. It depends on how much the state's voters want to support higher education through taxes.

aikoaiko

(34,163 posts)
14. Sure. not everyone. Its helps to have supportive state legislators or billion dollar endowments
Fri Sep 14, 2018, 08:49 PM
Sep 2018

Or both in the case of Udub

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
18. You premise has lots of holes. Indiana for instance.
Fri Sep 14, 2018, 10:39 PM
Sep 2018

Purdue University is a top 10 engineering school and top 5 Agriculture/Biological Science school. It is also an affordable school for instate students.

Then there are the small Liberal Arts schools like DePauw which are top notch.

Not bad for a state of less than 7 million residents.

Yavin4

(35,421 posts)
25. Granted Indiana, MO are holes. They are the two exceptions.
Sat Sep 15, 2018, 02:21 AM
Sep 2018

Just like Hawaii and New Mexico are holes on the other side. Blue states without a highly ranked university.

Exceptions don't negate the pattern.

nolabear

(41,936 posts)
23. Nope. Duke and UNC. Tulane.
Fri Sep 14, 2018, 11:37 PM
Sep 2018

To name only the ones friends and relatives have gone to (and I worked at).

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