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dlk

(11,425 posts)
Sun Sep 16, 2018, 11:45 AM Sep 2018

Is Brett Kavanaugh a Sexual Predator?

He was specifically chosen by Trump (a proud sexual predator) against the wishes of Mitch McConnell. Kavanaugh clerked for Judge Alex Kozinski (another blatant sexual predator). Then there is the letter alleging sexual assault, which could indicate a serious pathology. Kavanaugh has also repeatedly lied under oath during his previous and latest Senate hearings.

Why would the GOP want a likely sexual predator on the Supreme Court? Is it because he would be so easy to blackmail?

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Is Brett Kavanaugh a Sexual Predator? (Original Post) dlk Sep 2018 OP
There is absolutely no proof of that. john657 Sep 2018 #1
No Solid Proof but a Number of Indicators to Raise Red Flags dlk Sep 2018 #4
No proof, but he looks like he could be a closet freak! TheBlackAdder Sep 2018 #29
Agree. And this accusation is of behavior long ago, so Hortensis Sep 2018 #38
Blackmail? jberryhill Sep 2018 #2
Not Anything for the Victims but Guaranteed Outcomes... dlk Sep 2018 #6
I see, and the victims go along with this, why? jberryhill Sep 2018 #21
He would then fit right in with them all duforsure Sep 2018 #3
It's almost a prerequisite to get Trump's support. MrsCoffee Sep 2018 #5
We don't know. Right now there is a single claim by an anonymous woman The Velveteen Ocelot Sep 2018 #7
The Letter is a Definite Red Flag dlk Sep 2018 #8
As long as the woman remains anonymous the claim won't go anywhere. The Velveteen Ocelot Sep 2018 #11
I thought her name had been disclosed. smirkymonkey Sep 2018 #34
She came forward this afternoon. The Velveteen Ocelot Sep 2018 #35
Paging Anita Hill ProudLib72 Sep 2018 #9
Should the topic have been off limits in a confirmation hearing ? CentralMass Sep 2018 #10
Heh. dchill Sep 2018 #27
If we use this as a reason to oppose him forthemiddle Sep 2018 #12
Spot on. john657 Sep 2018 #14
This. The Velveteen Ocelot Sep 2018 #15
To be intellectually honest, a lot of people here refused to believe any of the women mythology Sep 2018 #24
Who is "the guy who has apologized for how he treated women"? The Velveteen Ocelot Sep 2018 #25
Franken was drummed out of the Senate while our hierarchy chose to not even question Kavanaugh on a CentralMass Sep 2018 #28
Perhaps, If Republicans Weren't in Such a Huge Rush to Ramrod this Confirmation... dlk Sep 2018 #19
Again, you're calling him a sexual predator without any proof john657 Sep 2018 #20
They've had it since July! forthemiddle Sep 2018 #22
At this time, there is no evidence that Kavanaugh is "likely" a sexual predator. Kaleva Sep 2018 #13
But there is ample proof that he is a dick. nt leftyladyfrommo Sep 2018 #16
+1000 smirkymonkey Sep 2018 #36
Thank you Kaleva. john657 Sep 2018 #18
Unfortunately, Kavanaugh doesn't need blackmail Bettie Sep 2018 #17
The fact the GOP are supressing all sorts of shit means there is a lot we don't know about him. sunonmars Sep 2018 #23
Yes. Cracklin Charlie Sep 2018 #26
It certainly seems that he was sexually abusive when he was in HS janterry Sep 2018 #30
She's come forward. I believe her. MaryMagdaline Sep 2018 #31
Good. I don't have much hope that this will prevent his confirmation, but The Velveteen Ocelot Sep 2018 #32
I don't have much hope either but still like to see these guys with a big A on their foreheads MaryMagdaline Sep 2018 #33
You raise a very interesting point. I already concluded that blackmail is keeping trump around. ecstatic Sep 2018 #37
 

john657

(1,058 posts)
1. There is absolutely no proof of that.
Sun Sep 16, 2018, 11:49 AM
Sep 2018

There is ample proof that he's a liar, perjurer, thief, etc, all of which should, and I repeat, should deny him a seat on the SC.

dlk

(11,425 posts)
4. No Solid Proof but a Number of Indicators to Raise Red Flags
Sun Sep 16, 2018, 12:02 PM
Sep 2018

Unfortunately, this seems to be common behavior for too many men.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
38. Agree. And this accusation is of behavior long ago, so
Sun Sep 16, 2018, 05:34 PM
Sep 2018

any speculation based on it would be WAS Cavanaugh a sexual predator? There are no allegations since.

And most men who would be willing to prey on women just don't do it. They lack a self destructive urge.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
2. Blackmail?
Sun Sep 16, 2018, 11:56 AM
Sep 2018

Okay, so, let’s consider what you are saying.

There is a string of victims who (a) are known to persons with an interest in controlling Kavanaugh, and who (b) have agreed not to say anything to anyone, so that said persons can obtain legal rulings they want. Remarkably, no one else is aware of these victims. Additionally, Kavanaugh is not actually disposed to issuing conservative legal rulings, but he is compelled to do so out of fear of exposure.

What, exactly, is in it for the victims?

dlk

(11,425 posts)
6. Not Anything for the Victims but Guaranteed Outcomes...
Sun Sep 16, 2018, 12:10 PM
Sep 2018
...for those with the money and the means to access and use his complete history. Information is power. Kavanaugh is dirty in more ways than one. I happen to believe this is one.
 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
21. I see, and the victims go along with this, why?
Sun Sep 16, 2018, 12:39 PM
Sep 2018

There’s nothing in it for them, but they just play along?

duforsure

(11,882 posts)
3. He would then fit right in with them all
Sun Sep 16, 2018, 11:58 AM
Sep 2018

And why they picked him , because they could use it against him for his votes. Especially if they also have any trump, putin , or russian ties. They use corrupted people to help protect themselves also.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,267 posts)
7. We don't know. Right now there is a single claim by an anonymous woman
Sun Sep 16, 2018, 12:13 PM
Sep 2018

that he assaulted her while they were both in high school. I doubt this will go anywhere unless the woman, or other women, comes forward. However, there is plenty of information suggesting he is untruthful in other respects and that he is a partisan GOPer who would not interpret the law impartially. Those are good reasons right there to keep him off the Supreme Court.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,267 posts)
11. As long as the woman remains anonymous the claim won't go anywhere.
Sun Sep 16, 2018, 12:20 PM
Sep 2018

A sexual predator will, by definition, have more than one victim. If he is that, will other women come forward? If others don't, there's nowhere to go with this.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
34. I thought her name had been disclosed.
Sun Sep 16, 2018, 05:27 PM
Sep 2018

Am I confusing her with someone else? I forgot the name but I thought I saw it in another post.

CentralMass

(15,265 posts)
10. Should the topic have been off limits in a confirmation hearing ?
Sun Sep 16, 2018, 12:19 PM
Sep 2018

Would the republicans have made a similar decision if the roles were reversed ?

We can eat our own, Al Fraken, over far less unsubstantiated innuendo and accusation because of claimed high moral ground but we must bury the topic of an alleged sexual assault by an arguably extreme GOP nominee for the supreme court because it wouldn't be decent and it might make us look bad.

WTF ?

forthemiddle

(1,373 posts)
12. If we use this as a reason to oppose him
Sun Sep 16, 2018, 12:24 PM
Sep 2018

There will ever again be an acceptable Justice to the Supreme Court, or any office for that matter.

I’m not saying I believe the allegations, or not, but at this point they are unsubstantiated allegations only!

Every single person has the right to face their accusers, and if we deny that to Kavanaugh now, there will be no justification to deny the next Judicial nomination, regardless of party on the same grounds!

This is the most dangerous precedent I have ever seen. Please think rationally here.

Oppose him on provable grounds, not this, Please!

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,267 posts)
15. This.
Sun Sep 16, 2018, 12:30 PM
Sep 2018

We righteously called foul when Al Franken was accused of sexual misconduct by anonymous women. Everyone has a right to confront their accuser. It's a very bad precedent.

 

mythology

(9,527 posts)
24. To be intellectually honest, a lot of people here refused to believe any of the women
Sun Sep 16, 2018, 01:03 PM
Sep 2018

Including those who were named. Likewise all of you refuse to believe the guy who has apologized for how he treated women.

CentralMass

(15,265 posts)
28. Franken was drummed out of the Senate while our hierarchy chose to not even question Kavanaugh on a
Sun Sep 16, 2018, 01:49 PM
Sep 2018

a far more serious matter, rape.

dlk

(11,425 posts)
19. Perhaps, If Republicans Weren't in Such a Huge Rush to Ramrod this Confirmation...
Sun Sep 16, 2018, 12:35 PM
Sep 2018

There would be adequate time to thoroughly investigate and vet this nominee, and all of the red flags. I’m wondering where you saw the suggestion this was the only reason to oppose Kavanaugh? Merely asking the question seems to have struck a nerve. Personally, I am completely opposed to having a sexual predator on the Supreme Court. We already have one in the White House.

 

john657

(1,058 posts)
20. Again, you're calling him a sexual predator without any proof
Sun Sep 16, 2018, 12:38 PM
Sep 2018

except an anonymous letter.

I still believe in the presumption of innocence and the right to face one's accuser, and until the woman agrees to come forward, or other women come forward with similar stories, this will go nowhere.

forthemiddle

(1,373 posts)
22. They've had it since July!
Sun Sep 16, 2018, 12:44 PM
Sep 2018

It makes it look worse since Feinstein sat on it.
I specifically said there are other reasons to oppose him, and to use those reasons instead!

If we even whisper that we oppose him as an unprovable sexual predator, that becomes a reason for every single unsubstantiated claim to stop future Justices.

BTW, don’t you remember me from high school? You tried to rape me, but I got away!

No, I refuse to put my name out, it would ruin my life. Just believe me, even though I’m a political activist from the other side.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
36. +1000
Sun Sep 16, 2018, 05:29 PM
Sep 2018

Even without the possible sexual assault, there are numerous reasons why Kavanaugh is a danger to our democracy and should not be seated.

 

john657

(1,058 posts)
18. Thank you Kaleva.
Sun Sep 16, 2018, 12:34 PM
Sep 2018

Unless the author of the letter comes forward, or other women come forward with similar stories, then this is going nowhere.

There are plenty of other, provable facts to deny him a seat on the nations highest court.

Bettie

(15,995 posts)
17. Unfortunately, Kavanaugh doesn't need blackmail
Sun Sep 16, 2018, 12:33 PM
Sep 2018

to agree with rulings that take rights away from anyone who isn't a rich, white, Christian male.

He'll do it for the joy of screwing those he deems less than himself (which is nearly everyone).

Is he a predator? Well, has likely been at least once, so I suspect he is, but we've no real proof at this time.

There are a million other reasons not to confirm him, but the fact that he'll do as he's told is enough for the Right to confirm.

sunonmars

(8,656 posts)
23. The fact the GOP are supressing all sorts of shit means there is a lot we don't know about him.
Sun Sep 16, 2018, 12:49 PM
Sep 2018

tells me loads that there is something in his background. What it is, we don't know.

 

janterry

(4,429 posts)
30. It certainly seems that he was sexually abusive when he was in HS
Sun Sep 16, 2018, 02:00 PM
Sep 2018

at least once.

I don't think we know enough to make him into a predator. That would require a pattern of sexually abusive behavior. We have no evidence of that.

I do believe that people can grow and change, not just from their HS self, but from their adult mistakes, as well.

Lying, however, in the here and now - makes him a liar.

I believe Christine Ford and think he is lying about what he did. And that disqualifies him, in my book.

MaryMagdaline

(6,849 posts)
31. She's come forward. I believe her.
Sun Sep 16, 2018, 02:13 PM
Sep 2018

The assault involved holding her against her will, having his friend help in holding her, covering her mouth to the point she thought she might die. She has named both boys. The other boy, now a man, said he did not remember the incident. Makes me think he feels he could do something like that while drunk. They are horrible people and both are sexual assailants.

Did they keep their criminal leanings under control after the incident? Are they still drunks and assailants? I don’t know. If I were voting, and the person was selected by my party, I would vote no. Reformed or not, they showed how they viewed another human being as their prey. They might be able to curtail criminal actions, but they’ve let it be known that females are not human in their own minds. Enough for me.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,267 posts)
32. Good. I don't have much hope that this will prevent his confirmation, but
Sun Sep 16, 2018, 05:03 PM
Sep 2018

at least it makes the claim so much more believable and takes some wind out of the GOPers' sails. Maybe. I am wondering whether other women will come forward; was this just a one-off by a drunken teenager who cleaned up his act as an adult (which is what the GOP will claim if they can't credibly deny the incident happened), or did it become a pattern? I guess maybe we'll see.

ecstatic

(32,566 posts)
37. You raise a very interesting point. I already concluded that blackmail is keeping trump around.
Sun Sep 16, 2018, 05:34 PM
Sep 2018

I think the GOP and trump are blackmailing each other to meet their respective needs. How else can we explain Lindsay Graham's ass kissing and despicable behavior, even after McCain's death? But now it's possible that they're adding the Supreme Court to their nasty arrangement. Disgusting!

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