General Discussion
Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsIs Brett Kavanaugh a Sexual Predator?
He was specifically chosen by Trump (a proud sexual predator) against the wishes of Mitch McConnell. Kavanaugh clerked for Judge Alex Kozinski (another blatant sexual predator). Then there is the letter alleging sexual assault, which could indicate a serious pathology. Kavanaugh has also repeatedly lied under oath during his previous and latest Senate hearings.
Why would the GOP want a likely sexual predator on the Supreme Court? Is it because he would be so easy to blackmail?
john657
(1,058 posts)There is ample proof that he's a liar, perjurer, thief, etc, all of which should, and I repeat, should deny him a seat on the SC.
dlk
(11,425 posts)Unfortunately, this seems to be common behavior for too many men.
TheBlackAdder
(28,070 posts)Hortensis
(58,785 posts)any speculation based on it would be WAS Cavanaugh a sexual predator? There are no allegations since.
And most men who would be willing to prey on women just don't do it. They lack a self destructive urge.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)Okay, so, lets consider what you are saying.
There is a string of victims who (a) are known to persons with an interest in controlling Kavanaugh, and who (b) have agreed not to say anything to anyone, so that said persons can obtain legal rulings they want. Remarkably, no one else is aware of these victims. Additionally, Kavanaugh is not actually disposed to issuing conservative legal rulings, but he is compelled to do so out of fear of exposure.
What, exactly, is in it for the victims?
dlk
(11,425 posts)...for those with the money and the means to access and use his complete history. Information is power. Kavanaugh is dirty in more ways than one. I happen to believe this is one.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)Theres nothing in it for them, but they just play along?
duforsure
(11,882 posts)And why they picked him , because they could use it against him for his votes. Especially if they also have any trump, putin , or russian ties. They use corrupted people to help protect themselves also.
MrsCoffee
(5,801 posts)The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,267 posts)that he assaulted her while they were both in high school. I doubt this will go anywhere unless the woman, or other women, comes forward. However, there is plenty of information suggesting he is untruthful in other respects and that he is a partisan GOPer who would not interpret the law impartially. Those are good reasons right there to keep him off the Supreme Court.
dlk
(11,425 posts)The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,267 posts)A sexual predator will, by definition, have more than one victim. If he is that, will other women come forward? If others don't, there's nowhere to go with this.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)Am I confusing her with someone else? I forgot the name but I thought I saw it in another post.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,267 posts)I posted before that happened.
ProudLib72
(17,984 posts)CentralMass
(15,265 posts)Would the republicans have made a similar decision if the roles were reversed ?
We can eat our own, Al Fraken, over far less unsubstantiated innuendo and accusation because of claimed high moral ground but we must bury the topic of an alleged sexual assault by an arguably extreme GOP nominee for the supreme court because it wouldn't be decent and it might make us look bad.
WTF ?
forthemiddle
(1,373 posts)There will ever again be an acceptable Justice to the Supreme Court, or any office for that matter.
Im not saying I believe the allegations, or not, but at this point they are unsubstantiated allegations only!
Every single person has the right to face their accusers, and if we deny that to Kavanaugh now, there will be no justification to deny the next Judicial nomination, regardless of party on the same grounds!
This is the most dangerous precedent I have ever seen. Please think rationally here.
Oppose him on provable grounds, not this, Please!
john657
(1,058 posts)I've made this argument over and over again.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,267 posts)We righteously called foul when Al Franken was accused of sexual misconduct by anonymous women. Everyone has a right to confront their accuser. It's a very bad precedent.
mythology
(9,527 posts)Including those who were named. Likewise all of you refuse to believe the guy who has apologized for how he treated women.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,267 posts)CentralMass
(15,265 posts)a far more serious matter, rape.
dlk
(11,425 posts)There would be adequate time to thoroughly investigate and vet this nominee, and all of the red flags. Im wondering where you saw the suggestion this was the only reason to oppose Kavanaugh? Merely asking the question seems to have struck a nerve. Personally, I am completely opposed to having a sexual predator on the Supreme Court. We already have one in the White House.
john657
(1,058 posts)except an anonymous letter.
I still believe in the presumption of innocence and the right to face one's accuser, and until the woman agrees to come forward, or other women come forward with similar stories, this will go nowhere.
forthemiddle
(1,373 posts)It makes it look worse since Feinstein sat on it.
I specifically said there are other reasons to oppose him, and to use those reasons instead!
If we even whisper that we oppose him as an unprovable sexual predator, that becomes a reason for every single unsubstantiated claim to stop future Justices.
BTW, dont you remember me from high school? You tried to rape me, but I got away!
No, I refuse to put my name out, it would ruin my life. Just believe me, even though Im a political activist from the other side.
Kaleva
(36,145 posts)leftyladyfrommo
(18,815 posts)smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)Even without the possible sexual assault, there are numerous reasons why Kavanaugh is a danger to our democracy and should not be seated.
john657
(1,058 posts)Unless the author of the letter comes forward, or other women come forward with similar stories, then this is going nowhere.
There are plenty of other, provable facts to deny him a seat on the nations highest court.
Bettie
(15,995 posts)to agree with rulings that take rights away from anyone who isn't a rich, white, Christian male.
He'll do it for the joy of screwing those he deems less than himself (which is nearly everyone).
Is he a predator? Well, has likely been at least once, so I suspect he is, but we've no real proof at this time.
There are a million other reasons not to confirm him, but the fact that he'll do as he's told is enough for the Right to confirm.
sunonmars
(8,656 posts)tells me loads that there is something in his background. What it is, we don't know.
Cracklin Charlie
(12,904 posts)They like their judges blackmailable.
Cheaper that a way.
janterry
(4,429 posts)at least once.
I don't think we know enough to make him into a predator. That would require a pattern of sexually abusive behavior. We have no evidence of that.
I do believe that people can grow and change, not just from their HS self, but from their adult mistakes, as well.
Lying, however, in the here and now - makes him a liar.
I believe Christine Ford and think he is lying about what he did. And that disqualifies him, in my book.
MaryMagdaline
(6,849 posts)The assault involved holding her against her will, having his friend help in holding her, covering her mouth to the point she thought she might die. She has named both boys. The other boy, now a man, said he did not remember the incident. Makes me think he feels he could do something like that while drunk. They are horrible people and both are sexual assailants.
Did they keep their criminal leanings under control after the incident? Are they still drunks and assailants? I dont know. If I were voting, and the person was selected by my party, I would vote no. Reformed or not, they showed how they viewed another human being as their prey. They might be able to curtail criminal actions, but theyve let it be known that females are not human in their own minds. Enough for me.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,267 posts)at least it makes the claim so much more believable and takes some wind out of the GOPers' sails. Maybe. I am wondering whether other women will come forward; was this just a one-off by a drunken teenager who cleaned up his act as an adult (which is what the GOP will claim if they can't credibly deny the incident happened), or did it become a pattern? I guess maybe we'll see.
MaryMagdaline
(6,849 posts)ecstatic
(32,566 posts)I think the GOP and trump are blackmailing each other to meet their respective needs. How else can we explain Lindsay Graham's ass kissing and despicable behavior, even after McCain's death? But now it's possible that they're adding the Supreme Court to their nasty arrangement. Disgusting!