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grumpyduck

(6,231 posts)
Mon Sep 17, 2018, 12:40 PM Sep 2018

"It won't matter thirty years from now."

I just sent the following to both my senators and my representative:

This has nothing to do with Kavanaugh, or with Democrat/Republican, liberal/conservative.

Imagine your son or daughter has just been sexually assaulted or bullied.

Can you imagine you, or a school counselor, or a social worker, or an emergency room doctor, telling your child "Don't worry about it, it won't matter thirty years from now?"

Somehow, I can't.
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"It won't matter thirty years from now." (Original Post) grumpyduck Sep 2018 OP
A member of my family was rape 10 years ago SCantiGOP Sep 2018 #1
My wife, may she rest in peace, bluescribbler Sep 2018 #3
Makes you wonder matt819 Sep 2018 #2
I tend to think that if he tried it once, that is not avebury Sep 2018 #4
If so, one would hope they come forward. RVN VET71 Sep 2018 #6
probably a lot of what is hidden away in his thousands of papers the GOP won't release ProfessorPlum Sep 2018 #9
Born a dick RVN VET71 Sep 2018 #7
And imagine saying that to a victime of sexual avebury Sep 2018 #5
"It will matter every day 50 years from now" Jarqui Sep 2018 #8
Oh Dear God! calimary Sep 2018 #10
Agony seems an unfair label that maybe overstates Jarqui Sep 2018 #11

SCantiGOP

(13,868 posts)
1. A member of my family was rape 10 years ago
Mon Sep 17, 2018, 12:59 PM
Sep 2018

It still affects her daily.
Her husband and I and others in the family know not to hold onto her if hugging, to do it loosely in case she needs to back out. She is still terrified of being held by someone against her will.

bluescribbler

(2,114 posts)
3. My wife, may she rest in peace,
Mon Sep 17, 2018, 01:48 PM
Sep 2018

was molested by her father at least from the age of 12, possibly much earlier. It usually happened, (she told me), when he had been drinking and her parents had been fighting. When he passed away, (from cancer of the esophagus, probably due to his heavy drinking),I attended the funeral and interment mainly so I knew in my heart he was in the ground and could hurt her no more. I know that he would be a tRumper were he still walking the earth.

matt819

(10,749 posts)
2. Makes you wonder
Mon Sep 17, 2018, 01:43 PM
Sep 2018

Well, it makes me wonder.

I wonder whether Kavanaugh's misogyny can be traced back to his failure to complete the rape he was certainly intending to commit some 30+ years ago.

Or maybe he was just born a dick.

Or, while we're speculating, maybe he and his fellow Georgetown Prep students were abused themselves. So much to speculate on, so little time.

avebury

(10,952 posts)
4. I tend to think that if he tried it once, that is not
Mon Sep 17, 2018, 02:21 PM
Sep 2018

the only time he tried it. It makes you wonder how many more victims that there are out there.

RVN VET71

(2,690 posts)
6. If so, one would hope they come forward.
Mon Sep 17, 2018, 02:40 PM
Sep 2018

It won't stop the nomination from going forward. Senate Republicans would all support the Son of Sam and see him onto SCOTUS. But it would be a victory of sorts just to have this lying son of a bitch publicly declared a serial misogynistic pig. His decisions could then be prefaced with: "Justice Kavanaugh, known sexual abuser and rapist, issued a dissent . . . "; or "Justice Kavanaugh, known sexual abuser and rapist, issued the majority opinion."

avebury

(10,952 posts)
5. And imagine saying that to a victime of sexual
Mon Sep 17, 2018, 02:22 PM
Sep 2018

assault and no legal recourse to opt to terminate a pregnancy.

Jarqui

(10,122 posts)
8. "It will matter every day 50 years from now"
Mon Sep 17, 2018, 02:51 PM
Sep 2018

My doctors would tell you that has been and continues to be my experience

calimary

(81,197 posts)
10. Oh Dear God!
Mon Sep 17, 2018, 03:27 PM
Sep 2018

I’m so sorry to hear of your agony.

I also believe it when innocent people who’ve been assaulted, hurt, abandoned, defiled, denigrated, demeaned or otherwise victimized say they still deal with it - even years later.

I totally get that. There are many things that are mighty hard to get over. This level of affront, I can only imagine, would be almost impossible to forget. Especially if there was never any justice done. You DON’T just stroll blithely away and say “meh, it wasn’t really that big a deal.”

So what we have is a Supreme Court nominee accused of clapping his hand over a young girl’s mouth to keep her screams from being heard inside a locked room with boys trying to rape her - whose prospective rulings ON said Court would, in effect, muzzle many more women seeking justice in the future.

Okay. I get it. Lordy do I get it. Here's Hoping the GOP at large gets it - in November.

Jarqui

(10,122 posts)
11. Agony seems an unfair label that maybe overstates
Mon Sep 17, 2018, 06:55 PM
Sep 2018

It's like living a broken record that goes around and around reliving the same stuff again and again - maybe like the definition of insanity => expecting a different conclusion from re-assimilating the same events - that never comes. I don't understand it or the point of it. Many of the people who were involved are dead.

I believe in innocent until proven otherwise. But

Susan Collins: If Kavanaugh lied, that's disqualifying



That's great except he already lied about the stolen Democrat emails for example.

Leahy says Kavanaugh was 'not truthful' about Democratic documents
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/leahy-says-kavanaugh-was-not-truthful-about-democratic-documents/2018/09/07/babfb4aa-b2d9-11e8-a20b-5f4f84429666_story.html?utm_term=.ba6341bdf5d2

So Collins selectively ignores Kavanaugh lying about using stolen property knowing full well it is almost impossible to prove he is lying about an event at a party 30+ years ago.
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