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mcar

(42,278 posts)
Mon Sep 17, 2018, 02:31 PM Sep 2018

Pierce: You Can't Walk Back a Categorical Denial

You Can't Walk Back a Categorical Denial
The Brett Kavanaugh hearings were already weird. Now they're about to get very rough.

BY CHARLES P. PIERCE
SEP 17, 2018

The Categorical Denial is a two-edged sword, which is why politicians and those nominated for seats on the Supreme Court avoid the Categorical Denial as though it were a subpoena from Vlad The Impaler. For example, one Doesn't Recall. One can Not Recall from hell to breakfast and the people who are opposing you can pound sand. One can Not Respond To Hypotheticals. One can Not Comment On Cases That Might Come Before The Court. All of these are perfectly legitimate Beltway strategies by which one can avoid the glistening blade of the Categorical Denial....

But the Categorical Denial is a different level of threat. I am not a crook. We did not trade arms for hostages. I did not have sexual relations with that woman, Miss Lewinsky. These are Categorical Denials. They also are lies. They did nothing except give the politicians who uttered them endless grief, and those three men were presidents of the United States.

Throughout his hearings before the Senate Judiciary Committee, Brett Kavanaugh, the president*'s choice for a lifetime gig on there Supreme Court, managed to dodge the Categorical Denial. He was not as slick at it as was Neil Gorsuch. He stammered and blathered and came off like someone who hadn't learned his lines very well. He was plainly wrongfooted by Senator Pat Leahy on the subject of Democratic committee e-mails that had been hacked while Kavanaugh worked at the White House. He managed to keep up the pretense, but you could see all the gears and flywheels working just below the surface.

He was an unconvincing performer giving an unconvincing performance. But he had (barely) sufficient political support, and he (barely) had the votes, so he looked like he was going to slide. But there was a certain stirring in the underbrush that gave his hearings a kind of spooky counter-melody. The massive credit card debt suddenly paid off. The 300-large worth of baseball tickets. The strange questions from Senator Sheldon Whitehouse about gambling. And a line of inquiry from Senator Maizie Hirono that seemed to come from even deeper left-field:

“Since you became a legal adult, have you ever made unwanted requests for sexual favors or committed any verbal or physical harassment or assault of a sexual nature?”
“No."
...

Here's the thing about Categorical Denials. They push all your chips to the center of the table. If you're mistaken, or you've forgotten, or you did it but you were too sockless hammered to recall the events, you're just as done as if you were flat-out lying about the whole matter. Certainly, if you're trying to be a Supreme Court justice, you better hope there isn't evidence out there that you've somehow misplaced in your memory, because peddling untruths in public, and before the Senate, and under oath, is a guaranteed way back to your old job. So, if the woman in question steps up, bravely, and describes in detail what she remembers about the night in question, you can suddenly realize that there isn't quite as much limb under your feet as you thought there was.

https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/a23278660/brett-kavanaugh-rape-allegation/
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CincyDem

(6,338 posts)
1. I had not realized that she prefaced the question with "Since you became a legal adult..."
Mon Sep 17, 2018, 02:35 PM
Sep 2018


I wish I could go back and see the look on his face because that feels like a shot across the bow, effectively saying "we know about the chit before you were a legal adult so we don't have to even ask about that."

mcar

(42,278 posts)
2. I wondered about that and a few other questions
Mon Sep 17, 2018, 02:40 PM
Sep 2018

The Democrats know about this stuff and can't come out with it because of Grassley's corrupt interference.

JustAnotherGen

(31,781 posts)
3. Wow - Senator Hirono
Mon Sep 17, 2018, 02:43 PM
Sep 2018

Brava! Brava!

“Since you became a legal adult, have you ever made unwanted requests for sexual favors or committed any verbal or physical harassment or assault of a sexual nature?”

“No."



She had/has his number.

mcar

(42,278 posts)
4. No wonder he looked so uncomfortable
Mon Sep 17, 2018, 02:51 PM
Sep 2018

when Democrats were questioning him. They know, and he knows it.

JustAnotherGen

(31,781 posts)
11. Yep and they were just a little too prepared
Mon Sep 17, 2018, 05:13 PM
Sep 2018

I don't know about you - but I can't just turn around positive glowing recs from 65 of my high school class mates at the drop of the hat.


This guy stinks to high heaven.

mcar

(42,278 posts)
14. Had a HS reunion about 6 years ago
Mon Sep 17, 2018, 05:40 PM
Sep 2018

Class of '76. Many of us had touched base on Facebook and we were a small (140) class. Still, it took a year and we never did find about 40 of them despite many folks trying.

No way possible they did this without hiring PIs.

Response to JustAnotherGen (Reply #3)

druidity33

(6,445 posts)
16. Sen Hirono
Tue Sep 18, 2018, 07:51 AM
Sep 2018

has been asking this question of every nominee for every position since #Metoo became a thing.


dmr

(28,344 posts)
6. I wondered why she prefaced her question that way.
Mon Sep 17, 2018, 03:12 PM
Sep 2018

I have major respect for Senator Hirono that I knew there had to have been a very good and important reason why. I was hoping I'd eventually find out why.

Iggo

(47,534 posts)
8. At first glance I thought she was letting him off the hook.
Mon Sep 17, 2018, 03:18 PM
Sep 2018

Now I see that WAS the hook.

Was it before or after your 18th birthday that you stopped raping 15-yr-olds?

world wide wally

(21,739 posts)
9. It would be quite ironic if Kavanaugh lost his law license and Jackson lost his medical license.
Mon Sep 17, 2018, 04:40 PM
Sep 2018

In other words... "Everything Trump touches dies"

lindysalsagal

(20,584 posts)
12. Memory is a tricky thing: Studies prove that it's maleable. He may really believe today that he did
Mon Sep 17, 2018, 05:24 PM
Sep 2018

didn't do that back then. He may pass the lie detector test, and it's not because he didn't do it. The test only tests what he believes.

Memory is selective. Memories can be blocked. But blocked and repressed memories are still having a huge impact on one's actions, in the most dangerous way: unconsciously.

This guy's toxic.

lindysalsagal

(20,584 posts)
18. Entirely possible. No question. but a polygraph isn't proof of an act, only a memory, which can fail
Tue Sep 18, 2018, 04:32 PM
Sep 2018

especially since she says they were drunk.

At the time, it wasn't enough to call the police, so, I don't blame her for not reporting. How could she know he'd be promoted to the supremes decades later?

All I know is, she's gonna wish she hadn't done it, especially if they still seat him.

She's so brave.

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