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Fuck you Orrin Hatch (Original Post) milestogo Sep 2018 OP
what you said! handmade34 Sep 2018 #1
I can't believe the old turd actually said that Ohiogal Sep 2018 #2
Well, you have to understand, he's kind of mixed up. n/t Mr.Bill Sep 2018 #3
I can The Genealogist Sep 2018 #6
BEYOND despicable!! InAbLuEsTaTe Sep 2018 #26
You know where they're going with that -- The Velveteen Ocelot Sep 2018 #4
That sums it up for me. badhair77 Sep 2018 #5
Ken Starr just said same thing to Wolf Blitzer Awsi Dooger Sep 2018 #7
I don't know who was in that room with Ms. Ford. former9thward Sep 2018 #8
Stranger rape is not close to this situation Awsi Dooger Sep 2018 #21
She told the therapist four men attacked her. former9thward Sep 2018 #25
My thoughts exactly! InAbLuEsTaTe Sep 2018 #27
On Tweety, Barbara Boxer said Orrin hasn't changed since Anita HILL UTUSN Sep 2018 #9
I visualize a sea of people wearing Pink Cat Ears BigmanPigman Sep 2018 #10
Wow--excellent idea! RestoreAmerica2020 Sep 2018 #15
They did this to Miller, McConnell and Sarah Fuckubee BigmanPigman Sep 2018 #16
Orral Hack's "stinking career" continues to stink to the end. Hassler Sep 2018 #11
Yes, and some of us... llmart Sep 2018 #23
We're going to be seeing a lot of Clarence these days. Good! George Eliot Sep 2018 #12
Too bad for Hatch that the nation will decide ooky Sep 2018 #13
Hatch is Mormon Ccarmona Sep 2018 #14
Mormons have a narrow view of sex and sexuality.... ProudMNDemocrat Sep 2018 #28
I honestly cannot wait until all these old geezers drop dead. smirkymonkey Sep 2018 #17
He is an ignorant idiot who refuses to learn anything. When spooky3 Sep 2018 #18
Piece of human garbage. Hatch and Grassley are reasons why we need term limits. Pepsidog Sep 2018 #19
This coming from a senile old fool who.... AZ8theist Sep 2018 #20
Orrin has defended abusers before. moondust Sep 2018 #22
Sounds like Kavanaugh knows what part this was and when it was from Hatch's statement. Izzy Blue Sep 2018 #24

Ohiogal

(31,983 posts)
2. I can't believe the old turd actually said that
Mon Sep 17, 2018, 06:10 PM
Sep 2018

How can any woman these days vote for a Republican? They are all totally despicable.

Yeah, "Oh golly gosh, I was mixed up about getting raped!"

Mind. Boggling.

The Genealogist

(4,723 posts)
6. I can
Mon Sep 17, 2018, 06:58 PM
Sep 2018

I can totally believe it. Lots of Republicans just like him. They HATE women. They hate the idea HATE it, that women are not treated as chattel property. In this case, he is acting like she is just a poor confused little missus who somehow wandered away from the stove, where he surely thinks she belongs. He is scum of the earth.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,681 posts)
4. You know where they're going with that --
Mon Sep 17, 2018, 06:13 PM
Sep 2018

they'll claim that even if she was assaulted it wasn't by Kavanaugh. Some other guy did it. She's "mixed up." This could be a lame attempt to avoid beating up on Dr. Ford by calling her a liar (and thus upsetting all them triggered wimminfolk who aren't down with rapey guys), while getting Kavanaugh off the hook. "It was some other guy, not me!" Want to bet they try to go down this road?

 

Awsi Dooger

(14,565 posts)
7. Ken Starr just said same thing to Wolf Blitzer
Mon Sep 17, 2018, 07:04 PM
Sep 2018

"False identifications happen all the time"

Oh sure. I wish one of these hosts would ask how often it would happen...What do you think, Kenny?... 2 percent of the time...5 percent?

Let him go higher and make a fool of himself. Women everywhere would know how insulting it is, for something that traumatic to happen and then confuse who did it.

Anyway, it seems to be a line they are testing out

former9thward

(31,986 posts)
8. I don't know who was in that room with Ms. Ford.
Mon Sep 17, 2018, 07:16 PM
Sep 2018

I was not there. But I do know as a defense attorney false identifications do happen frequently. All you have to do is google "dna evidence frees accused rapist" and you will find countless stories of innocent men who were identified by a woman and later found to be innocent because of DNA evidence. It DOES happen.

 

Awsi Dooger

(14,565 posts)
21. Stranger rape is not close to this situation
Mon Sep 17, 2018, 08:49 PM
Sep 2018

Known quantity of schools involved. Only a certain number of males would be at that school. Chances are the girl was familiar with them, and the names. If she specified two names and not merely one that explodes the likelihood of legitimacy, especially since the two boys were apparently linked as friends and have remained as friends.

She gave the account to her therapist in 2012 and detailed that the men have gone onto high positions of government, or some type of similar description. I don't know the exact words. Regardless, it describes an extremely low number of people.

Let's just say I would love to have an opposing defense attorney attempt a false identification argument. The biggest challenge would be not to laugh. I certainly hope the GOP senators attempt it next Monday.

BigmanPigman

(51,585 posts)
10. I visualize a sea of people wearing Pink Cat Ears
Mon Sep 17, 2018, 07:53 PM
Sep 2018

following every white, old man in govt around DC and where ever they go. Harass these bastards like they deserve to be.

BigmanPigman

(51,585 posts)
16. They did this to Miller, McConnell and Sarah Fuckubee
Mon Sep 17, 2018, 08:18 PM
Sep 2018

after word got out that they were locking up babies and kids of immigrants. I remeber Mitch's wife get all protective and snapping back at the people around their car, "Leave my poor husband alone, he has done nothing wrong, you should be ashamed, blah blah blah".

Hassler

(3,376 posts)
11. Orral Hack's "stinking career" continues to stink to the end.
Mon Sep 17, 2018, 07:59 PM
Sep 2018

He said the same thing about Anita Hill.

llmart

(15,536 posts)
23. Yes, and some of us...
Mon Sep 17, 2018, 08:53 PM
Sep 2018

are old enough to remember watching his shitty performance on TV during the Anita Hill debacle. That's when I learned who he was and I haven't forgotten all these years. He's a piece of shit who needs to be gone.

George Eliot

(701 posts)
12. We're going to be seeing a lot of Clarence these days. Good!
Mon Sep 17, 2018, 08:03 PM
Sep 2018

Let's remind people what kind of judges Republicans prefer. Perfect timing.

ooky

(8,922 posts)
13. Too bad for Hatch that the nation will decide
Mon Sep 17, 2018, 08:08 PM
Sep 2018

I see this lining up good for us. When she goes in front of the nation and makes a strong impression the Republicans will be left with a choice. Kill the nomination, or continue to shove Kavanaugh through anyway, and watch the democrats peel off even more votes from women, and watch the blue wave turn into a blue tsunami.

 

Ccarmona

(1,180 posts)
14. Hatch is Mormon
Mon Sep 17, 2018, 08:13 PM
Sep 2018

Women are not equals and must obey their Man. Daughters are future stars to orbit around the Father once they’re in Heaven.
Hatch is a hack, along with McTurtle and Assley.

ProudMNDemocrat

(16,784 posts)
28. Mormons have a narrow view of sex and sexuality....
Mon Sep 17, 2018, 11:12 PM
Sep 2018

The few Mormon men I know are hesitant to display any inkling of sexuality, let alone feel relaxed around women not their wives lor daughters.

From my research about Mormon sex, total nudity, foreplay of any kind down there, is forbidden. Mormon sex is for procreation. Couples are encouraged to pray first before sex so that it is blessed and in accordance to their beliefs.

Orrin Hatch is of that generation that has been OPPRESSED when it comes to matters of this manner.

spooky3

(34,440 posts)
18. He is an ignorant idiot who refuses to learn anything. When
Mon Sep 17, 2018, 08:22 PM
Sep 2018

Anita Hill's story became known, he and others decided before they had even heard her testify that they did not want to believe her. That is the very definition of bias, and some now are ashamed of their behavior during that process. He is not. Now he is displaying his bias again.

AZ8theist

(5,457 posts)
20. This coming from a senile old fool who....
Mon Sep 17, 2018, 08:40 PM
Sep 2018

tried to remove eyeglasses HE WASN'T WEARING!!



Talk about "mixed up"...

You need to retire, you old fool...

moondust

(19,974 posts)
22. Orrin has defended abusers before.
Mon Sep 17, 2018, 08:51 PM
Sep 2018

Orrin defended serial child molester Dennis Hastert who had a shady history with child solicitor Mark Foley.

Sen. Orrin G. Hatch (R-Utah) once visited the FLDS church in Hildale and played the organ. He later defended the group when asked about its alleged abuses.

http://www.latimes.com/news/la-na-sect12may12-story.html

Hildale was the home of polygamous sect leader Warren Jeffs who is now serving a life sentence for child molestation. If Orrin played the organ there he probably knew the "leader" pretty well.

I think it might be Orrin who is mixed up.

 

Izzy Blue

(282 posts)
24. Sounds like Kavanaugh knows what part this was and when it was from Hatch's statement.
Mon Sep 17, 2018, 09:00 PM
Sep 2018

??

Leigh Ann Caldwell

@LACaldwellDC

NEWS: @OrrinHatch just spoke to Kavanaugh and Kavaaugh denies being at the party in question per a Hatch aide.

Hatch told me kavanaugh is “honest” and “straightforward” and said after talkng to Kavanaugh the woman might be “mixed up”
2:11 PM - Sep 17, 2018

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"According to an aide to the senator, Kavanaugh told him that he wasn’t even at the party where he is said to have forced himself on Ford, groped her, and tried to remove her clothing. Caldwell reported that Hatch’s impression of the situation after speaking with Kavanaugh is that Ford could be “mixed up” about what happened."
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