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Tue Sep 18, 2018, 11:17 AM

Regarding Kavanaugh the sexual assaulter and a memory of mine.

We already knew that Kavanaugh was a bona fide CREEP when he sneered and turned away from the offered handshake from the father of a murdered young woman.

We've also found out that he has a history of sexual assault, but the Trump worshipping Republicans want us to look past this because Kavanaugh was 17 at the time it happened.

When I was young, my father told me that if a girl or woman ever told me to stop, than stop IMMEDIATELY. On my own, I added to that to not only stop, but to release all physical contact, also immediately.

When I was 17, a girl and I were fooling around on her bed. She was a willing participant. Being a 17 year old horn bag, I was trying to get her clothes off. She told me to stop and I stopped. She said that she didn't want to have sex, but she was enjoying the "necking." So we continued to neck and we both enjoyed it and I stopped trying to take her clothes off.

If this woman remembers me at all today, she remembers me as a gentleman who treated her with respect.

Today, as the father of a nearly 19 year old young man, I have always taught him the same thing that I was taught. I can proudly say that this, a basic respect for girls and women, are ingrained in him as a part of who he is. While I frequently want to give him a kick in the ass, I am very proud of the way he's always treated and related to his girlfriends. He knows that if he mistreats a girlfriend, he'll have my wife and I to deal with as well as her family. I'm proud to say that he is hard wired to not mistreat women. All of his former girlfriends maintain very cordial relations with him.

As a man, husband, father and respecter of women, I'm horrified and infuriated by the attitudes of Kavanaugh's apologists and defenders. Of course, I expect nothing in the way of basic decency from the excrementally horrible excuse for a human being currently in the White House, but 2020 is coming.

That's my 2 cents, and quite possibly overpriced at that.

RESIST!

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Reply Regarding Kavanaugh the sexual assaulter and a memory of mine. (Original post)
MarianJack Sep 2018 OP
chowder66 Sep 2018 #1
MarianJack Sep 2018 #6
raccoon Sep 2018 #7
Johnny2X2X Sep 2018 #2
MarianJack Sep 2018 #5
KT2000 Sep 2018 #3
MarianJack Sep 2018 #4
whathehell Sep 2018 #8
MarianJack Sep 2018 #9
whathehell Sep 2018 #17
Pepsidog Sep 2018 #10
MarianJack Sep 2018 #13
colorado_ufo Sep 2018 #11
calimary Sep 2018 #12
MarianJack Sep 2018 #14
NastyRiffraff Sep 2018 #15
MarianJack Sep 2018 #19
Perseus Sep 2018 #16
MarianJack Sep 2018 #20
malaise Sep 2018 #18
MarianJack Sep 2018 #21
Doitnow Sep 2018 #22
MarianJack Sep 2018 #23

Response to MarianJack (Original post)

Tue Sep 18, 2018, 11:24 AM

1. More dads like you please! nt

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Response to chowder66 (Reply #1)

Tue Sep 18, 2018, 11:53 AM

6. Thanks, chowder66!

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Response to chowder66 (Reply #1)

Tue Sep 18, 2018, 11:59 AM

7. I second that emotion. Nt

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Response to MarianJack (Original post)

Tue Sep 18, 2018, 11:37 AM

2. Good on you

As a gentleman, I've had similar encounters to yours.

But these situations aren't at all analogous to what Kavanaugh is accused of, he's accused of attacking a women, holding her down (possibly with help) and groping her. That goes way beyond him being in a consenting situation and touching someone after that person said no, while that is very wrong too, it's not as wrong as attacking someone, pinning them down, and trying to have your way with them.

Again, something the Left sometimes struggles with are degrees of wrong. A boss creepily commenting on an employees physical features is wrong, a boss telling an employee they must perform a sexual act to keep their job is way more wrong. Two 17 year old young adults making out and one of them touching the other after they said no is wrong and awful, grabbing a girl at a party, throwing her down and restraining her with force to grope them is more wrong and more awful.

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Response to Johnny2X2X (Reply #2)

Tue Sep 18, 2018, 11:52 AM

5. The only time I, or my son, would attack a girl or woman,...

Last edited Tue Sep 18, 2018, 07:26 PM - Edit history (1)

...is as a part of an aggressive strategy played in a game of Scrabble or Chess. The worst thing that would happen then is that I'd win in a lopsided way.

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Response to MarianJack (Original post)

Tue Sep 18, 2018, 11:37 AM

3. Hard wired -

that is the solution.
Thanks for sending a respectful young man into the world!

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Response to KT2000 (Reply #3)

Tue Sep 18, 2018, 11:47 AM

4. Thank you, KT2000

Last edited Tue Sep 18, 2018, 07:27 PM - Edit history (1)

Ha is respectful, and my wife & I are proud of him for that.

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Response to MarianJack (Original post)

Tue Sep 18, 2018, 12:29 PM

8. I agree completely -- More dads like you.

Thanks to you and your father for passing on decent, civilized values.

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Response to whathehell (Reply #8)

Tue Sep 18, 2018, 12:34 PM

9. Thank you, whathehell.

My father was a true and genuine philandering bastard, but he was right about THIS!

RESIST!

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Response to MarianJack (Reply #9)

Tue Sep 18, 2018, 04:44 PM

17. You're welcome..

You're father sounds, um, .interesting.

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Response to MarianJack (Original post)

Tue Sep 18, 2018, 12:46 PM

10. I remember high school in late 70's and college early 80's. Lots of parties, lots of drinking

and it wasn’t ok then, and never was ok, to violate a woman. Only the sick, sociopaths who thought they were entitled to take everything they wanted engaged in that behavior. Like Trump, Kavanaugh is a naraccistic, holier than thou, sociopath who is the last person who should be on the SC. Imagine what RBG, Kagen and Sotomayer must be thinking. If Kavenaugh gets confirmed he and Clarence Thomas will soon become good buddies throwing keggers at the SC and creeping on law clerks and other women.

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Response to Pepsidog (Reply #10)

Tue Sep 18, 2018, 01:52 PM

13. A nauseating thought.

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Response to MarianJack (Original post)

Tue Sep 18, 2018, 12:50 PM

11. Thank you!

You set the standard!

However, if you don't mind, I would like to borrow the phrase, "excrementally horrible excuse for a human being." That is flat-out awesome!

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Response to colorado_ufo (Reply #11)

Tue Sep 18, 2018, 01:02 PM

12. Yep! That's a beauty alright!

I have one of those marvelous men as a husband. Truly liberated. Has always treated me with that basic respect as well as love.

We passed that along to our son. I reminded him several times: “you are the son of a gentleman. And you are the grandson of gentlemen.” (My dad had his moments but he was generally honorable, but my father-in-law was STERLING - a VERY classy guy, AND a complete gentleman.)

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Response to colorado_ufo (Reply #11)

Tue Sep 18, 2018, 01:53 PM

14. Take it with my best wishes!

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Response to MarianJack (Original post)

Tue Sep 18, 2018, 02:01 PM

15. I wish all men were like you

That said, most men do NOT rape or assault. We're being told that all or most 17 year olds are so horny they're unable to control themselves so it's not their fault and the girls ought to just forgive and forget, or it's all the girl's fault anyway so she should just shut up or be shamed. I refuse to believe that, although I was seriously assaulted in high school. By ONE boy.

Christine Basley Ford was assaulted by 2 boys, Brett Kavanaugh and his equally swinish friend.

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Response to NastyRiffraff (Reply #15)

Tue Sep 18, 2018, 06:37 PM

19. My wife will tell you...

...that I can be a real turd at times. I'm afraid she's right!

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Response to MarianJack (Original post)

Tue Sep 18, 2018, 04:24 PM

16. Not overpriced at all

An excellent story, and one that every young man should read, you were well taught by your parents and you have passed that to your son, well done.

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Response to Perseus (Reply #16)

Tue Sep 18, 2018, 06:38 PM

20. thank you, Perseus.

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Response to MarianJack (Original post)

Tue Sep 18, 2018, 04:47 PM

18. That simple

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Response to malaise (Reply #18)

Tue Sep 18, 2018, 06:39 PM

21. Thanks, malaise.



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Response to MarianJack (Original post)

Wed Sep 19, 2018, 08:48 PM

22. You ought to be commended for the way you raised your son. Absolutely. Today on tv someone

was defending Kavinaugh, excusing his actions with Dr. Ford as just ordinary teen-age stuff and shouldn't be judged badly because it was so long ago and Kavinaugh has led an exemplary life since. Well, what do you call his lying in this hearing at least 3 times in the recent couple of weeks? That is not what I call exemplary behavior. The business of hiding all but 10% of the background material in addition just adds to the obvious lawlessness of the present Rethug party.

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Response to Doitnow (Reply #22)

Thu Sep 20, 2018, 11:06 AM

23. Let's not forget...

...Kavanaugh reopening Vince Foster's suicide long after several agencies ruled it as such band torturing the family. What a guy...NOT!

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