Trump's Junk: Is It OK to Dick-Shame the President?

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

On Tuesday, The Guardian published excerpts from an obtained copy of Stormy Daniels’ not-yet-published, tell-all memoir Full Disclosure, in which she describes a number of troubling events: her 2006 sexual encounter with Donald Trump; her mounting disbelief as she watched him gain traction during the 2016 primaries; her fear that she might be in danger as he got closer and closer to the presidency; and her agreement to sign a $130,000 hush agreement. (Trump has denied the alleged affair, though he has admitted to authorizing his personal lawyer, Michael Cohen, to pay Daniels for her silence, and Cohen later pleaded guilty to criminal charges related to the payoff.)

Yet one detail of the book the Guardian revealed has had the Internet in a frenzy: Daniels’ description of Trump’s genitals as “like the mushroom character in Mario Kart.” Images of the character, Toad, were instantly memed and “Mario Kart” trended on Twitter. Reactions were a mixture of horror at having to imagine Trump’s junk, and glee to have such a sensitive detail about him to mock. But it brought up a larger question: Is it ok to dick-shame the president?

In January, the results of Trump’s physical exam — which showed him to be just shy of obesity, according to the Body Mass Index — launched a debate over whether or not it was OK to fat-shame him. On the one hand, there was the argument that Trump body-shames everyone, from Miss Universe contestants to Rosie O’Donnell, and that the best way to get under the skin of a petty, vain man is to attack his physical appearance. On the other hand was the more compelling argument that mocking Trump’s weight on Twitter — or in an op-ed he’ll never read — won’t hurt him, but it will hurt fat people who actually see it; that tying your disdain for Trump to his weight only reinforces harmful ideas of fatness as connected to moral failure and fat people as unlovable. To protect and support all of the overweight people out there who aren’t trying to block immigration into this country or undercut the public’s trust in journalism, it’s better to focus anti-Trump sentiments on his personality and his policies, not his body.

But does the same rule apply to making fun of his penis? Surely it’s tempting to mock anything we can about the president, especially something so closely tied with ideas of masculinity and power, when his desperation for those things is so transparent. And this is not the kind of information that was ever going to sail through the Internet quietly.

https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-features/stormy-daniels-trump-penis-sex-725871/

Personally I could care less about Trump's junk but I think not using a condom when cheating on your wife or lasting only two minutes are not things to be proud of.

[kimbutgar]

1. I've been snickering about the mushroom all day

Just like those nude statutes of that appeared in big cities during the election. I saw one on Castro Street.

[CentralMass]

2. ...

[Atticus]

3. Let's see---who publicly boasted about the size of his "junk"? nt

[flibbitygiblets]

26. That would be Buttlips McMushroomdick

If memory serves

[Kajun Gal]

4. Yes! Quite fine to shame his thang since that's where his brain is!

[Boxerfan]

5. Easy-YES!!!

There is no moral equivalence in the universe that says we can't shame this anus lipped monster.

[ecstatic]

6. Generally, dick shaming is wrong, but in trump's case, he deserves it

He's always judging the appearance of others, especially women. So when it comes to trump, dick-shame away!

[hlthe2b]

7. Any of the previous 44 who held the office? No. Absolutely not. This poseur?.....

[Kaleva]

8. The article misses the point in this regard

"On the other hand was the more compelling argument that mocking Trump’s weight on Twitter — or in an op-ed he’ll never read — won’t hurt him,.."

No, but it attacks his supporters who do follow twitter and read op-eds. It's not easy to support someone or something that is heavily ridiculed by so many others.

[JoeOtterbein]

9. No...but both sides....

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[leftstreet]

10. I think it's actually mushroom-shaming

What did a mushroom ever do to get compared to Trump's dick?

[lunatica]

38. LOL!

[dalton99a]

60. +1

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

72. Excellent point!

[JHan]

76. ...

[betsuni]

79. Be a soft sometimes poisonous fungus that grows in moist shady places

and shrinks after being heated?

[kairos12]

87. Drumpt's not a fungi!

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

11. Yes. All day.

I hope mushroom jokes populate the Internet for the rest of his presidency (which I also hope won't be much longer). I hope some nervy reporter asks him a sly question about Mario Kart, or whether he likes mushrooms on his steaks, or whether he believes yetis exist. I hope the word "choad" makes a resurgence and is spoken in the same breath with the word "Trump." I don't hope that he tweets dick pics using the emergency texting system.

[Catherine Vincent]

12. Absolutely

I remember Clinton haters discussing Clinton's. They called it the first member.

[htuttle]

13. !

[BannonsLiver]

14. The short answer is a resounding YES

This is the kind of mentality that induces eye rolls from me. When I read authors advocating for the high road after what we’ve born witness to over the last 2 years it tells me they have failed bigly to understand the rules of engagement, and what we’re up against.

[blue cat]

15. Definitely yes

He opened that door, during the debates.

[Sneederbunk]

16. Waiting to hear from his friend Pecker.

[smirkymonkey]

17. It's ok to dick shame this president.

He has a habit of shaming other people for anything and everything. He completely deserves it. Besides, humiliating him in that department is one of the best ways to drive him insane. He prides himself on being a ladies man, but he obviously doesn't cut it and I think that should be publicly known. Maybe that will be a signal to all rapists and womanizers that they are susceptible to being shamed as well.

Anything that humiliates him and causes him shame is fine with me.

[trueblue2007]

18. YES !!!

YES!!!! BECAUSE ALL THROUGH HIS RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT & the almost 2 years of his NOT-president, he has continually SHAMED MY PUSSY.

As he soooo ooooooo elegantly spoke on that bus. His remark has caused me so much depression and heart ache.
Trump shamed women. I AM A WOMAN SO HE HAS HURT ME.

TURNABOUT IS FAIR PLAY. I would like to see his 2 inch penis in person so I can laugh at it.


HERE IT IS ..... IT ALL IT'S "GLORY" ......

[ProudLib72]

21. Grab 'em by the mushroom!

Ooohhh, maybe that ought to be a bumper sticker.

[CountAllVotes]

27. +1,000

[njhoneybadger]

34. If you can find it

[Docreed2003]

30. There's a hilarious meme of this pic...

With the Toad character photoshopped over his...ahem, member.

[lunatica]

41. Where's the Yeti pubes?

I imagine them looking like his eyebrows.

[trueblue2007]

42. the hairs are ALLLL white cuz he is al OLD creep. He is not a young guy ANY more !!!!

[TreasonousBastard]

19. I really despise dick-shaming. But, this is Trump, so carry on.

[emulatorloo]

20. No, because I think it damages young men whose concept of dick size is based on the outliers of porn

rather than reality.

Not a popular opinion here but it is what it is. It says the measure of a man is the size of his genitals. That’s damaging. But by all means, DU should carry on.

[mythology]

31. It may not be a popular opinion, but it's the morally correct one

DUers should be better than that.

[backtoblue]

45. I agree nt

[rainin]

68. Dang! It's so easy to get caught up in the fun of it. Thanks for reminding me

to be better. This is not right no matter how much I despise him.

[Tom Rinaldo]

81. Yes. It is pretty much the same as small breast size shaming for those reasons n/t

[SixString]

22. The Presidential Penis: A Short History

https://newrepublic.com/article/131117/presidential-penis-short-history

Every American president has had a penis. The possession of a generative member is, in fact, the one trait they all share. Some have been Whigs, some Democrats, and some Republicans. There have been slave-owning presidents and abolitionists, bearded presidents and clean-shaven ones, Easterners and Southerners. Almost all have been white, but at least one has been black. Yet all have been men.

Americans might be cringing at Marco Rubio’s nudge-nudge-wink-wink comment about Trump having “small hands” and Trump’s reassurances that both his hands and penis are in good shape. Yet this locker-room banter belongs to an old tradition running from Adams to Bill Clinton. The only way to stop American presidents from alluding to their penises is to elect a woman, which is likely to happen in November.

Thanks to various sex scandals, we have detailed descriptions of Bill Clinton’s penis. According to Robert Bennet, Clinton’s lawyer in the Paula Jones case, “In terms of size, shape, direction, whatever the devious mind wants to concoct, the president is a normal man. There are no blemishes, there are no moles, there are no growths.” The Independent offered a more prosaic account: “His erect penis is about five inches long, has the circumference of a quarter ... and heads off at an angle, presumably rather like a finger bent at the joint.”

Seems to have been going on for quite a length of time.

[RockRaven]

23. Yes, b/c Trump body-shames people all the time. Even his family members and employees.

If he finds this to be appropriate behavior, then he should not be bothered when it is turned around on him.

If he is bothered by it, I'm not particularly fussed -- he should treat people better if he wants to be treated better.


Having said that, let's put this dick-shaming into context: this isn't dick-shaming a random person, or non-public figure, or a public figure who has avoided speaking about their sex-life and/or penis in public. TRUMP TALKED ABOUT HIS DICK DURING A GOP PRIMARY DEBATE.

The only people who could cry "unfair!" to dick-shaming with less credibility would be nude models and porn performers.

[ProudLib72]

24. But Melania said locker room talk was ok

And if I want to be best, I should follow Melania's advice. Ergo, it is imperative that I dick shame the orange anus.

[peekaloo]

25. Explains why Melanoma is always squinting.

[FSogol]

28. Pass. The minute Trumpy shows empathy toward anyone,

You could make that argument. Until then, carry on. The fucker made his own bed.

[rusty fender]

29. Sure, because he has thrown it around

all over the place. If he hadn’t, nobody would’ve been shaming it

[NightWatcher]

32. Shiitake yes

[Hekate]

65. Oh Noes!

[TheCowsCameHome]

33. This is rapidly coming to a head.

[milestogo]

35. I think we have a moral obligation to shame him in every way possible.

And if someone who has seen his dick feels like making fun of it, she should absolutely do that.

[Cousin Dupree]

75. Miles, you mean we have a "morel" obligation, don't you?

[milestogo]

82. ...

[Lithos]

36. He is a dick, shame!

..

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

37. But Trump is such a fungi!

[orangecrush]

44. ...

[Solly Mack]

39. I prefer to think his progeny popped out of his hair than to ever think of his having a squishy.

His hair multiplying makes infinite more sense to me.

[BlueTsunami2018]

40. Everything is fair game with this piece of shit.

No holds barred. He has no problem mocking the weakest and most vulnerable, no one should show him any mercy.

In short, fuck him and his feelings.

[orangecrush]

43. YES

[andytheteacher]

46. This is a huge mistake

When a past sexual partner of Kristen Gillibrand comes out during the campaign to share intimate details of their sex life, people here would rightly freak out. This is no different.

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

48. Enjoy your short stay

[Hekate]

67. I think you miss the point by a mile

[renate]

73. If she were to literally brag about her junk on national TV during a debate, then that would be fine

I don't know whether you're serious or not, but there's every difference between body-shaming a guy who body-shames other people and gratuitously and irrelevantly digging into someone's private life.

[former9thward]

47. "Dick shaming" is about the most male chauvinist thing a person can do.

Male or female. But if that is what gets someone off then have at it. I have found in life the people who like to do such things have nothing to write home about downstairs themselves. I once had a junior high mentality myself -- in junior high -- but since then hopefully not so much.

[Kaleva]

49. I think you are making stuff up.

" I have found in life the people who like to do such things have nothing to write home about downstairs themselves."

Just how would you know that?

[former9thward]

86. In high school we took showers after PE.

If you need more information you have more problems than I think you have.

[John Fante]

50. What's next? Don't make fun of Trump's hair, it hurt those who are

follically-challenged? Don't call him stupid, it hurts low-IQ individuals?

Fuck. That. Hit this piece of shit with everything you've got.

[Still In Wisconsin]

52. Making fun of Trump's hair will hurt those who wear ferrets on their heads.

Learn some sensitivity won't you?

[MustLoveBeagles]

51. Have at it

Dick shaming is something I usually find repugnant but I can't muster up any outrage against it in this case.

[fierywoman]

53. Yes it is OK because he brought his mushroom into the debates.

[dalton99a]

64. Exactly

[Flaleftist]

54. He is a nasty, vile bully. Anything is fair game.

[HopeAgain]

55. It denigrates the seriousness of our situation

This stuff doesn't serve anyone. Let's talk about the Tariff that could throw us into an inflationary recession, the confirmation proceedings for a sexual predator with a gambling problem, or the fact we literally have a Russian asset as our chief executive. I don't think the resistance needs this.

[Rorey]

57. You're right. It's fun to push his buttons, but

this side-show stuff is just a distraction from the truly important, life-ruining damage being done.

[Rorey]

56. I'm curious about Melania's take on this

I've seen more than a couple of penises in my life, but I've never seen one that I would describe as resembling a mushroom, so to me it's unique, if not odd. I'm curious about how -45 is explaining to Melania the reason that Stormy knows what his penis looks like.

I'm not going to admonish anyone for ridiculing -45 for ANYTHING, simply because he deserves everything that's thrown at him. We've got enough ammo against this decrepit creature to ridicule without going after his physical self, but my loathing for him is so off the charts that I'm tempted to attack anything and everything about him. I hate that I allow someone like him to bring out something in me that would cause me to be tempted to ridicule something unique about another person.

[Honeycombe8]

58. It's okay to shame someone who is in the business of regularly shaming others.

It's okay. It's okay to shame him about his obesity (he's not just shy of obesity...he IS obese), if the shamer relates it to Trump's body shaming of others. Penis talk is fine, since he caused it by picking up a porn actress who was selling sex toys in the lobby of his hotel. When you troll the gutter world, it comes back to bite you sometimes.

It's okay. He set the rules. These are his rules.

[backscatter712]

59. Watch us...

Trump is always fair game.

Especially considering he was fat-shaming Miss America contestants. Payback's a bitch!

[dalton99a]

61. "I guarantee you there is no problem. I guarantee"

Two minutes, tops

[Hekate]

62. Short answer: Yes. Very short. nt

[dalton99a]

66. Or shorter

[DavidDvorkin]

63. Not all presidents.

[Jamaal510]

69. I don't care about him or his genitals, but

I always hated how loosely the "shaming" phrase gets thrown around in general. It's as if every little criticism of something is labeled as (insert trait)-shaming. He'll be fine and continue on with his daily ritual of Twitter fights, bullying, and lies. I don't feel sympathy for him at all.

[betsuni]

70. Morel of the story: Brag about your dick in public, expect to be caught with your pants down.

[Demonaut]

71. he didn't last two minutes...he only needed two minutes

[Crunchy Frog]

74. Yes. It gets a (tiny) rise out of him.

[Mike Nelson]

77. Generally, I would say...

… No... But, this man is an exception. Crooked Donald and his behavior have given the public permission to discuss his genitals. Remember, in one of the televised debates, he bragged about the size of his penis. So, he wants the topic to be discussed.

[tazkcmo]

78. This one, yes. n/t

[samnsara]

80. im gonna

[lunatica]

83. It's his karmic adjustment

He who body shames others get’s it back tenfold. Payback. What’s good for the goose is good for the gander. Divine justice.

Stormy is the one who finally showed us the emperor has no clothes.

[idcdu]

84. Oh Trump is such a hen in the woods

Amirite?

[Kingofalldems]

85. ......

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