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Keith Boykin, CNN, tweet regarding Murkowski (Original Post) Honeycombe8 Sep 2018 OP
Her brother and Kavanaugh overlapped their time at Georgetown Prep. RockRaven Sep 2018 #1
Sounds like she's a vote for confirmation. As is Susan Collins, I think. Honeycombe8 Sep 2018 #2
Man, really? BigmanPigman Sep 2018 #9
I sent her an email via her website eleny Sep 2018 #3
+1. nt Honeycombe8 Sep 2018 #4
The nation is watching! eleny Sep 2018 #5
I love your little gif. Honeycombe8 Sep 2018 #6
I get them here, they allow remote linking eleny Sep 2018 #7
Thanks! nt Honeycombe8 Sep 2018 #8
I also sent her an email tibby3k Sep 2018 #11
Its all a show quakerboy Sep 2018 #10
I think you're right. Honeycombe8 Sep 2018 #12
Explanation: Franken was a Senator, a very important position in our government gratuitous Sep 2018 #13
Nice try. But no go. Totally incorrect. Honeycombe8 Sep 2018 #14
Nyeeeowwwww! gratuitous Sep 2018 #15
nyeeeowwwww? "Sarchasm"? nt Honeycombe8 Sep 2018 #16
Sarchasm: The gulf between a sarcastic comment and the person who didn't get it gratuitous Sep 2018 #17
Franken didn't get a hearing either. spanone Sep 2018 #18
Right. No hearing. Not even a perfunctory investigation. Not even a questioning of the accusers. Honeycombe8 Sep 2018 #19

RockRaven

(14,959 posts)
1. Her brother and Kavanaugh overlapped their time at Georgetown Prep.
Tue Sep 18, 2018, 11:55 PM
Sep 2018

Certainly Kavanaugh and his friends know all kinds of embarrassing crap about her brother and maybe her as well.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
2. Sounds like she's a vote for confirmation. As is Susan Collins, I think.
Tue Sep 18, 2018, 11:58 PM
Sep 2018

I can't imagine any Republican standing in the way of their once-in-a-century far right autocratic in-the-bag Republican Justice added to the S.Ct. to make it majority Republican, with three far-right wingnuts. They have to. Otherwise, they'll be cut from committees, ostracized, and become powerless. The Senators don't work alone. They work in groups, and the biggest deal is to get on committees to work on specific bills and issues, and get pork for your state.

Only those who are leaving politics will be free to vote no. So that's Corker, Flake I think.

BigmanPigman

(51,584 posts)
9. Man, really?
Wed Sep 19, 2018, 01:06 AM
Sep 2018

Shit, shit, shit! That just killed the rest of tonight and most of tomorrow. Shit again!

quakerboy

(13,920 posts)
10. Its all a show
Wed Sep 19, 2018, 02:15 AM
Sep 2018

They are going to let it play just enough to try and provide a little cover with the voters.

But im pretty sure that even if Kavenaugh came into the hearing on Monday and chose a random woman in the chamber and repeated his assault in full view of every Republican senator there, they would still vote him onto the court. Unanimously.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
12. I think you're right.
Wed Sep 19, 2018, 01:58 PM
Sep 2018

They'd say Judge Kavanaugh was driven to act in a way totally out of character for him. After a life of being a prince, he should be forgiven for this one act that he was driven to by the shameful way the Democrats treated him. Never before have we seen such a fine man be treated so shamefully.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
13. Explanation: Franken was a Senator, a very important position in our government
Wed Sep 19, 2018, 02:07 PM
Sep 2018

Judge Kavanaugh is being considered for just a Supreme Court position. If Franken hadn't resigned, he would have had to face the voters and be judged by them whether he was fit to continue as a Senator. If Kavanaugh is confirmed, he'll never be subject to review again, and will decide for himself if he should recuse himself from any particular case.

So, see, Franken's and Kavanaugh's positions are totally different, and disparate responses by Senator Murkowski are perfectly okay.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
14. Nice try. But no go. Totally incorrect.
Wed Sep 19, 2018, 02:12 PM
Sep 2018

First, SHE made no "importance of office or job" distinction. Indeed, her point was that NO JOB OR POSITION can or should accept such behavior.

Second she accepted the allegations against Franken as TRUE, despite (1) no investigation; (2) no allegation of real assault or molestation being involved; (3) 4 of the accusers being anonymous; and (4) total and bold denial of Franken of all claims.

The two situations are IDENTICAL in every relevant way, as far as Murkowski's statements. Murkowski and other Republicans were chomping at the bit to get rid of Franken for other reasons.


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gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
17. Sarchasm: The gulf between a sarcastic comment and the person who didn't get it
Wed Sep 19, 2018, 02:23 PM
Sep 2018

Of course Judge Kavanaugh should be held at the very least to the standard Murkowski applied to Senator Franken. In fact, because a seat on the Supreme Court (nine of those) is arguably more important than a seat in the Senate (100 of those), it could be argued that Kavanaugh should be held to a higher standard. Also, because Senator is an elected position for a six-year term and federal judge is an appointed position for life, perhaps even more stringent standards and scrutiny should be applied to a nominee to the Supreme Court.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
19. Right. No hearing. Not even a perfunctory investigation. Not even a questioning of the accusers.
Wed Sep 19, 2018, 05:49 PM
Sep 2018

Not even finding out the names of most of them. Because that wasn't the problem with Franken, IMO.

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