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blm

(113,013 posts)
Wed Sep 19, 2018, 02:32 PM Sep 2018

DU photo pros - can you grab Christine Blasey's 1983 school photo?

It’s used here under the 5th subject.

https://heavy.com/news/2018/09/christine-blasey-ford/

We need to use this photo of the child who was assaulted. She could be anyone’s daughter or granddaughter, or sister. Even many Republican senators.

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DU photo pros - can you grab Christine Blasey's 1983 school photo? (Original Post) blm Sep 2018 OP
Will this work? Leghorn21 Sep 2018 #1
That's the one. Hopefully more will use it. blm Sep 2018 #6
Leghorn, can you post this in an OP and put it next to blm Sep 2018 #17
Done, my friend Leghorn21 Sep 2018 #21
Sorry you're catching flak - I guess others don't see what we see. blm Sep 2018 #26
You know, I think I will, b - I had no idea this would be such a horrible thing to post, but I'm Leghorn21 Sep 2018 #27
Appreciate the efforts blm Sep 2018 #29
Its here. honest.abe Sep 2018 #2
That isn't the one. It's the one above. blm Sep 2018 #5
Right under the photo it says from Holten Arms 1984 yearbook honest.abe Sep 2018 #7
Oh....sorry. But, the incident happened when she was 15. blm Sep 2018 #9
Yeah, I guess that photo is one year after the incident. honest.abe Sep 2018 #10
It shows how assault can change a person. She looks haunted. blm Sep 2018 #11
The more I look at both photos the more I see of the drastic change in her blm Sep 2018 #14
Yeah, I think I see that too. honest.abe Sep 2018 #15
And fearful. blm Sep 2018 #16
it is ahuge difference. not just physical but the 2nd clearly shows JI7 Sep 2018 #18
Exactly - I can't post photos and hope someone will put both together blm Sep 2018 #20
When you see her at that age madaboutharry Sep 2018 #3
The comments on that thread are awful. salin Sep 2018 #4
I haven't found the photo on any other sites. blm Sep 2018 #8
I was just about to say that. It just shocks me how horrible some people can be. smirkymonkey Sep 2018 #12
I don't know. Never thought of it as rw-ish salin Sep 2018 #13
this is a huge issue right now so the right wing and other trolls are very active JI7 Sep 2018 #19
Why do we "need to use the photo"? WhiskeyGrinder Sep 2018 #22
Because it represents accurately who was targeted for assault. A 15yo girl. blm Sep 2018 #23
This really rubs me the wrong way. WhiskeyGrinder Sep 2018 #24
I get that, but some can relate as Ido. blm Sep 2018 #28
"Relating" has nothing to do with it. This is invasive and does nothing to help her. WhiskeyGrinder Sep 2018 #30
In your view. The photos are public and I see them as evidence of her trauma blm Sep 2018 #31
Parading her trauma and encouraging other people to consume it is ghoulish, doesn't help her and WhiskeyGrinder Sep 2018 #32
She's made it public so people can learn that teen girls get treated this way while blm Sep 2018 #33
We know her story; we don't need to pick apart her appearance. You have no idea why she looks the WhiskeyGrinder Sep 2018 #34
You're just digging in at this point. You exaggerate what I said to make your point. blm Sep 2018 #37
Except it is malicious to other victims mythology Sep 2018 #35
I made that point. I said I relate because my face showed the same in those years. blm Sep 2018 #36
We don't obamanut2012 Sep 2018 #25

blm

(113,013 posts)
6. That's the one. Hopefully more will use it.
Wed Sep 19, 2018, 03:05 PM
Sep 2018

Last edited Wed Sep 19, 2018, 03:45 PM - Edit history (1)

I haven’t seen it on fb or twitter.

blm

(113,013 posts)
17. Leghorn, can you post this in an OP and put it next to
Wed Sep 19, 2018, 08:23 PM
Sep 2018

the one of her taken the year after? The difference in her face is striking. As if she aged 5yrs after the trauma.

blm

(113,013 posts)
26. Sorry you're catching flak - I guess others don't see what we see.
Wed Sep 19, 2018, 09:15 PM
Sep 2018

We see the story she told. They don’t see it. Feel free to delete.

Leghorn21

(13,523 posts)
27. You know, I think I will, b - I had no idea this would be such a horrible thing to post, but I'm
Wed Sep 19, 2018, 09:20 PM
Sep 2018

going to disappear it!!

Take care, b

blm

(113,013 posts)
5. That isn't the one. It's the one above.
Wed Sep 19, 2018, 03:03 PM
Sep 2018

The one you posted is from college and is more widespread. But, thankyou for taking the time.

On edit...I was mistaken on timing of your photo. It is of Christine in her senior year which would be a year or two after the assault. Mea culpa.

honest.abe

(8,614 posts)
7. Right under the photo it says from Holten Arms 1984 yearbook
Wed Sep 19, 2018, 03:07 PM
Sep 2018
Issuu Scribe 1984/Holton Arms
Christine Blasey’s page in ‘Scribe 1984’ her yearbook from Holton Arms School. On her page she quotes song lyrics, writes a letter to her family and includes a photo of her and her brothers.

blm

(113,013 posts)
9. Oh....sorry. But, the incident happened when she was 15.
Wed Sep 19, 2018, 03:11 PM
Sep 2018

I thought the older photo of her was from college, because she looks so much older than she did just a year earlier.

blm

(113,013 posts)
11. It shows how assault can change a person. She looks haunted.
Wed Sep 19, 2018, 03:17 PM
Sep 2018

I know many women who cut or changed their hair after being sexually assaulted.

blm

(113,013 posts)
14. The more I look at both photos the more I see of the drastic change in her
Wed Sep 19, 2018, 03:41 PM
Sep 2018

demeanor. Truly haunting.

JI7

(89,240 posts)
18. it is ahuge difference. not just physical but the 2nd clearly shows
Wed Sep 19, 2018, 08:37 PM
Sep 2018

more fear, worry. while the first is more normal smiling school girl.

blm

(113,013 posts)
20. Exactly - I can't post photos and hope someone will put both together
Wed Sep 19, 2018, 08:41 PM
Sep 2018

in its own post and direct people to observe the difference. I think it’s unmistakeable.

madaboutharry

(40,190 posts)
3. When you see her at that age
Wed Sep 19, 2018, 02:38 PM
Sep 2018

you understand how she was just a young girl and must have been so traumatized by two boys dragging her in a room and assaulting her.

salin

(48,955 posts)
4. The comments on that thread are awful.
Wed Sep 19, 2018, 03:01 PM
Sep 2018

I am not that familiar with heavy.com but guessing either they have a very right leaning readership, or some rw site has tagged this article and their minions have flocked the comments.

blm

(113,013 posts)
8. I haven't found the photo on any other sites.
Wed Sep 19, 2018, 03:07 PM
Sep 2018

Surprisingly, the left sites haven’t found it to use. I think it is a VERY important component.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
12. I was just about to say that. It just shocks me how horrible some people can be.
Wed Sep 19, 2018, 03:32 PM
Sep 2018

I am so upset after reading those comments. Is this normal for this site? It makes me never want to go back there if that is the kind of audience they attract.

salin

(48,955 posts)
13. I don't know. Never thought of it as rw-ish
Wed Sep 19, 2018, 03:35 PM
Sep 2018

but don't read it that often.

But I have seen an item on a centrist or left site - get swarmed by rw trolls based on some publicity on the article/item being posted in some dark rw corner of the net.

JI7

(89,240 posts)
19. this is a huge issue right now so the right wing and other trolls are very active
Wed Sep 19, 2018, 08:40 PM
Sep 2018

even saw the regular du troll who doesn't regularly post do so on this issue.

blm

(113,013 posts)
23. Because it represents accurately who was targeted for assault. A 15yo girl.
Wed Sep 19, 2018, 08:52 PM
Sep 2018

If you can’t relate then move on - some of us can relate and can empathize with both photos.

WhiskeyGrinder

(22,308 posts)
24. This really rubs me the wrong way.
Wed Sep 19, 2018, 08:59 PM
Sep 2018

This sets a very specific bar for future victims to reach. And in some cases, it's unreachable.

blm

(113,013 posts)
31. In your view. The photos are public and I see them as evidence of her trauma
Wed Sep 19, 2018, 09:33 PM
Sep 2018

as SHE has told it. I believe the trauma has been a lasting one for her even after all these years. In the second photo it was still fresh. Some of us see it and some of you don’t. Leave it at that, but, it most certainly isn’t wrong for those of us who do. And certainly isn’t malicious.

WhiskeyGrinder

(22,308 posts)
32. Parading her trauma and encouraging other people to consume it is ghoulish, doesn't help her and
Wed Sep 19, 2018, 09:36 PM
Sep 2018

doesn't help other victims.

blm

(113,013 posts)
33. She's made it public so people can learn that teen girls get treated this way while
Wed Sep 19, 2018, 09:43 PM
Sep 2018

their attackers get away with it because of society’s refusal to examine the culture that allows it to continue, and even rewards the attacker.

She made it public knowing it would shape the arguments on both sides. I see the photos as evidentiary and that the trauma shows on her young face. And you don’t. Enough.

WhiskeyGrinder

(22,308 posts)
34. We know her story; we don't need to pick apart her appearance. You have no idea why she looks the
Wed Sep 19, 2018, 09:48 PM
Sep 2018

way she does in any of these photos, and your insistence that these photos are some kind of special evidence only you and a few others can "see" and "understand" implies that trauma is visible and visible effects of trauma are irrefutable evidence. What of the victims who don't have the look you insist should be seen by everyone?

blm

(113,013 posts)
37. You're just digging in at this point. You exaggerate what I said to make your point.
Wed Sep 19, 2018, 10:13 PM
Sep 2018

I never said what you are claiming. If anything you are the one insisting that only your view is correct. I said I see them as evidentiary, and some see the same. I don’tinsist that everyone see it my way, because we all have different life experiences and observations and we express them here. Mine aren’t 100% perfect every time and neither are yours.

I feel my observation on this is accurate because I am familiar with that secret pain I see in the latter photo. Now....isn’t that enough for you?

 

mythology

(9,527 posts)
35. Except it is malicious to other victims
Wed Sep 19, 2018, 09:53 PM
Sep 2018

That they don't "look" like victims in some random person's eyes. There is literally no correct way to be a victim.

What happens to women after they are sexually assaulted?

After a sexual assault, women can experience a wide range of reactions. It is very important to note that there is no single pattern of response. Some women respond immediately, others may have delayed reactions. Some women are affected by the assault for a long time, but others appear to recover more quickly.

In the time just after a sexual assault, many women report feeling shock, confusion, anxiety, and/or numbness. Sometimes women will experience feelings of denial. In other words, they may not fully accept what has happened to them or they may downplay the intensity of the experience. This reaction may be more common among women who are assaulted by someone they know.


https://www.ptsd.va.gov/public/ptsd-overview/women/sexual-assault-females.asp

If it were easy to look at somebody and see who they really are, Jeffrey Dahmer wouldn't have had 17 victims. You are looking at the pictures with the knowledge of what happened and applying that to the pictures. Your bias is clouding your judgement.

blm

(113,013 posts)
36. I made that point. I said I relate because my face showed the same in those years.
Wed Sep 19, 2018, 10:00 PM
Sep 2018

I don’t expect all to react the same way to what happens to them, but, I do recognize it when I see a shared pain in the face of others.

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