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Wed Sep 19, 2018, 09:56 PM

A guy who attended Georgetown Prep has written his horror story concerning Mark Judge

and says he heard the story the Doctor is telling repeated dozens of times


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Reply A guy who attended Georgetown Prep has written his horror story concerning Mark Judge (Original post)
womanofthehills Sep 2018 OP
FM123 Sep 2018 #1
blm Sep 2018 #2
elleng Sep 2018 #3
Solly Mack Sep 2018 #4
FBaggins Sep 2018 #5
Upthevibe Sep 2018 #7
FBaggins Sep 2018 #8
Stonepounder Sep 2018 #10
ProudLib72 Sep 2018 #14
Cha Sep 2018 #18
FBaggins Sep 2018 #25
Blue_true Sep 2018 #35
xxqqqzme Sep 2018 #36
DeminPennswoods Sep 2018 #19
brush Sep 2018 #26
FBaggins Sep 2018 #27
brush Sep 2018 #28
FBaggins Sep 2018 #29
LanternWaste Sep 2018 #32
sheshe2 Sep 2018 #6
getagrip_already Sep 2018 #9
NewJeffCT Sep 2018 #24
KY_EnviroGuy Sep 2018 #11
Bradshaw3 Sep 2018 #15
TomVilmer Sep 2018 #21
Amimnoch Sep 2018 #31
Hassler Sep 2018 #12
Honeycombe8 Sep 2018 #13
smirkymonkey Sep 2018 #16
TheBlackAdder Sep 2018 #17
DeminPennswoods Sep 2018 #20
Javaman Sep 2018 #22
idcdu Sep 2018 #34
Javaman Sep 2018 #37
PatrickforO Sep 2018 #23
KWR65 Sep 2018 #30
red dog 1 Sep 2018 #33

Response to womanofthehills (Original post)

Wed Sep 19, 2018, 10:04 PM

1. What a piece of work that Mark Judge is!

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Response to womanofthehills (Original post)

Wed Sep 19, 2018, 10:06 PM

2. Sadly, this story rings true all over the country, in every high school.

The privileged elite males get away with it the most. Ultimate creeps.

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Response to womanofthehills (Original post)

Wed Sep 19, 2018, 10:06 PM

3. Thanks.

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Response to womanofthehills (Original post)

Wed Sep 19, 2018, 10:06 PM

4. K&R

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Response to womanofthehills (Original post)

Wed Sep 19, 2018, 10:08 PM

5. How do you read that last sentence?

Is he saying that over his four years he had heard lots of stories of drunken teens assaulting young women? Or is he saying that for four years this particular story made the rounds through the school?

The first seems likely for a prep school with lots of entitled teenage boys... the second seems pretty implausible.

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Response to FBaggins (Reply #5)

Wed Sep 19, 2018, 10:16 PM

7. FBaggins...I have exactly the same question...

It was either rampant and happened to the girls by the boys frequently or this specific story had been talked about?

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Response to Upthevibe (Reply #7)

Wed Sep 19, 2018, 10:26 PM

8. It has to be the first

He looks far too young... and the Orr groping occurred in 2002. All he really adds is more evidence that Judge is creepy... and thatís pretty well established at this point

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Response to Upthevibe (Reply #7)

Wed Sep 19, 2018, 10:36 PM

10. Me and the Mrs both read it as

it happened to multiple female students. It sure sounds like the all-male Prep schools figured that they had a right to pretty much 'have their way'. Do you remember the term "affluenza"?

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Response to FBaggins (Reply #5)

Wed Sep 19, 2018, 11:39 PM

14. I read it as the Dr. Ford incident was a well known story

I think it makes more sense that way since he is trying to discredit Judge.

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Response to ProudLib72 (Reply #14)

Thu Sep 20, 2018, 06:42 AM

18. That's the way I read it.

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Response to ProudLib72 (Reply #14)

Thu Sep 20, 2018, 09:13 AM

25. That seems really implausible to me

Assuming all of the accusations are true, it hardly seems like the kind of story that would persist at an all-boys school ~15 years later.

How does the story end? "Of course... in the end he didn't actually get anywhere with her... but boy did he give her a fright!" - That just doesn't seem like the stuff of high school legends. There's also no way that something so widespread would be entirely missed by the standard FBI background check.

It definitely contradicts the other reading. If sexual assaults driven by "afluenza" entitlement among largely upscale white youth happen all the time (which fits my assumptions)... then current students would be talking about current "conquests". Not something ~15 years ago for someone who (at the time) nobody would have heard of.

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Response to FBaggins (Reply #25)

Thu Sep 20, 2018, 05:27 PM

35. When I was in middle school, I heard stories of certain type of conduct that went back

a decade before I arrived there. There were legends, likely embellished, but they touched on a common theme of inappropriate conduct. It is possible that Mrs. Ford's incident became part of legend about taking girls from the elite girls school down the way.

The high school that I went to was only 3 years old when I got there, but I heard rumors about fights that took place before I got there. There was no sexual assault stuff, fortunately that was taken rather seriously at that high school.

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Response to ProudLib72 (Reply #14)

Thu Sep 20, 2018, 09:15 PM

36. My take

as well.

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Response to FBaggins (Reply #5)

Thu Sep 20, 2018, 06:49 AM

19. Read it as the former

Lots of partying, drinking and frat boy preppers feeling entitled to have their way with any girl they wanted.

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Response to FBaggins (Reply #5)

Thu Sep 20, 2018, 09:30 AM

26. He's not the only who has said they heard of the story of Kanavaugh's attempted rape...

so it's clear to me he was talking about the Kavanaugh story circulating at in that circle of students.

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Response to brush (Reply #26)

Thu Sep 20, 2018, 09:48 AM

27. Have you seen that he wasn't a student at the time?

For his story to be true (by that reading), the Kavanaugh story would have to circulate for almost two decades.

By the alternative reading... it's very believable that such incidents were not unheard of at this exclusive school. That reading would also match the hundreds of women from Ford's school who say that it's consistent with their own experiences (though many graduated before Kavanaugh learned to walk).

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Response to FBaggins (Reply #27)

Thu Sep 20, 2018, 10:00 AM

28. Maybe, but he mentioned Dr. Ford's story directly, and he's talking about Judge who was said...

to be in the room when the attempted rape happened.

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Response to brush (Reply #28)

Thu Sep 20, 2018, 10:12 AM

29. Which is why my preferred reading makes the most sense.

He's pointing out that he knows that Judge is creepy now, so it's more than plausible that he was creepy then (and that his character is in doubt when he denies any knowledge of the incident). He's also pointing out that there were lots of creeps at the school (even years later) and that such occurrences were far from rare.

What he isn't doing is adding evidence that the specific allegations have contemporaneous support.

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Response to FBaggins (Reply #29)

Thu Sep 20, 2018, 12:39 PM

32. Makes the most sense as interpreted by you.

 

You're predicating an absolute on a mere inference. That's a rather dramatic lack of application of critical thought.

Rethink your premise, observe the given evidence as objectively as possible (meaning, try to deny tour own biases) and try again.

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Response to womanofthehills (Original post)

Wed Sep 19, 2018, 10:10 PM

6. K&R

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Response to womanofthehills (Original post)

Wed Sep 19, 2018, 10:31 PM

9. I went to an elite private school in CT. in the early 70's....

I entered the same year it went co-ed. This crap was common. None of this surprises me. Male students acted like privileged pigs and faculty looked the other way. They didn't want to piss off mommy and daddy. Or future donor's.

Nothing has changed.

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Response to getagrip_already (Reply #9)

Thu Sep 20, 2018, 08:31 AM

24. This is not unique to elite private schools by any means

I had posted this the other day:

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https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=11149679

I went to a small town public high school in Connecticut

it was a mostly white working class/blue collar town at the time and I graduated HS in the mid 80s. Out of around 400 kids total in the high school, I doubt more than a dozen kids were non white. So, about 100 kids per class, and somewhere around 50/50 boys to girls. (The town still has the white blue/collar working class element, but nowadays is a lot more diverse both racially and economically - just checking the numbers from the State Dept of Ed website, the high school now has somewhere closer to 550 kids and maybe 125/130 are not white and a white collar/middle class/upper middle class element as well)

1) When I was in middle school (Grade 6-8), a bunch of friends in town on a Catholic Youth basketball team (not associated with the school, but a lot of the basketball jocks were on both teams) lost a New England tournament championship game because they were hung over from too much drinking the night before the game.

2) While not as violent as holding girls down and covering their mouths, coerced sex was pretty common at high school parties. I was too shy and not cool enough to be invited to these parties, but I've heard the stories from enough reliable kids (boys & girls) that I'm certain the stories were true. I believe at least one girl did file a police report years later because it made the local newspaper, but I have no idea the resolution and I've mostly lost touch with all but a couple of kids from my high school except for the occasional "Happy Birthday" on Facebook.

3) Several years after graduating at a class reunion planning meeting, I found out that a girl I had graduated with had been pregnant when she marched for graduation. She then said that high school administrators at the time gave her trouble for being visibly pregnant, until her mom brought up the fact that she was a nurse at a local hospital and least 9 girls from my class came in and had had abortions. That stunned me at the time - 10 pregnancies out of somewhere around 50 girls in the class.

So, there is no way in my mind that this is something unique to expensive prep school kids - this is a problem across all income levels, I think.

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Response to womanofthehills (Original post)

Wed Sep 19, 2018, 10:47 PM

11. Everyone check out Stone cold Pillar's banner graphic....

on his Twitter home page. It's a hoot!

https://twitter.com/KottiPillar

Thanks for the post, womanofthehills.........

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Response to KY_EnviroGuy (Reply #11)

Thu Sep 20, 2018, 12:37 AM

15. Wow that is so friggin cool! Everyone should check it out

Thanks for posting.

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Response to TomVilmer (Reply #21)

Thu Sep 20, 2018, 12:29 PM

31. Make the mini cannon between the legs look like a Mario Bros mushroom..

 

and it'll be perfect!

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Response to womanofthehills (Original post)

Wed Sep 19, 2018, 10:54 PM

12. Georgetown Prep is a cesspool. Another swamp

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Response to womanofthehills (Original post)

Wed Sep 19, 2018, 11:35 PM

13. Wow. Just wow. nt

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Response to womanofthehills (Original post)

Thu Sep 20, 2018, 01:23 AM

16. K&R

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Response to womanofthehills (Original post)

Thu Sep 20, 2018, 02:54 AM

17. Kavanaugh said the Dean at Georgetown Prep reminded him of the "What Happens at Georgetown..." line.

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What kind of fucking dean reminds an alum of their silence motto before they go to make a public address?

For folks who don't know what I am talking about, back in 2015 Kavanaugh addressed Georgetown Law, and when he spoke, he mentioned that the dean of Georgetown Prep reminded him of their motto, "What happens at Georgetown Prep, stays at Georgetown Prep." Then Kavanaugh mentioned that that was a good thing. What the fuck are they hiding in that school?



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Response to TheBlackAdder (Reply #17)

Thu Sep 20, 2018, 06:53 AM

20. GP is hiding a lot of embarassing incidents

That's what the phrase "what happens at (blank), stays at (blank) means.

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Response to womanofthehills (Original post)

Thu Sep 20, 2018, 07:41 AM

22. mark judge sounds like a fucking imbecile.

Last edited Fri Sep 21, 2018, 07:22 AM - Edit history (1)

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Response to Javaman (Reply #22)

Thu Sep 20, 2018, 04:03 PM

34. I like Mike Judge. He's the one who created Idiocracy

 

AND Beavis & Butthead.

It's Mark Judge....

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Response to idcdu (Reply #34)

Fri Sep 21, 2018, 07:22 AM

37. oops. I will fix.

I like Mike too. LOL

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Response to womanofthehills (Original post)

Thu Sep 20, 2018, 08:23 AM

23. These Republicans don't ever get to take the moral high ground again.

We own it. We also own common decency and common sense.

We need to take back power so that guys like Kavanaugh can be impeached (if McConnell goes ahead and rams his confirmation through), and we can begin fixing the mess Trump and his wreckers have created.

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Response to womanofthehills (Original post)

Thu Sep 20, 2018, 10:16 AM

30. Mark Judge is a cRaZy drunk n/t

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Response to womanofthehills (Original post)

Thu Sep 20, 2018, 03:55 PM

33. Too bad Grassley doesn't care if Mark Judge testifies or not

The fact that Judge is refusing to testify is extremely telling, imo.

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