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"Funny how it's ok for boys to wait years when raped by priest, but not a woman who goes up against (Original Post) Demovictory9 Sep 2018 OP
Can't rec enough... dhill926 Sep 2018 #1
rec for what its untruth? whistler162 Sep 2018 #9
Yes! RainCaster Sep 2018 #2
The old double standard is alive and well in the USA. BigmanPigman Sep 2018 #3
True, but we are going to end it. Ligyron Sep 2018 #12
I have two copies of that album.... BigmanPigman Sep 2018 #16
Funny how that is. smirkymonkey Sep 2018 #4
This message was self-deleted by its author TheBlackAdder Sep 2018 #5
Self deleted lunatica Sep 2018 #6
Not funny; it's apples and oranges. Behind the Aegis Sep 2018 #7
I don't think male victims treestar Sep 2018 #14
Funny how many boys did tell whistler162 Sep 2018 #8
the difference is "boys" with an "s"", as more than one, Ford's accusations would be beachbum bob Sep 2018 #10
I think Republicans are making a huge miscalculation about the number of women who have Vinca Sep 2018 #11
complete bullshit dsc Sep 2018 #13
Yeah, funny how that works. MoonRiver Sep 2018 #15
I didn't know she was raped. Why isn't this in the headlines more?? Bonx Sep 2018 #17
Dr. Ford never claimed to have been raped. Kaleva Sep 2018 #18

BigmanPigman

(51,432 posts)
3. The old double standard is alive and well in the USA.
Thu Sep 20, 2018, 12:57 AM
Sep 2018

Old, rich, white men are the minority and they rule the majority. This has been set up for 35 years...ever since Reagun, then Newt carried it forward.

Ligyron

(7,592 posts)
12. True, but we are going to end it.
Thu Sep 20, 2018, 09:37 AM
Sep 2018

cue in, opening cords to "Volunteers of America".

Raised fists optional...

Response to Demovictory9 (Original post)

Behind the Aegis

(53,833 posts)
7. Not funny; it's apples and oranges.
Thu Sep 20, 2018, 06:02 AM
Sep 2018

Homophobia is a HUGE factor. If the victims of priests were girls, there would outrage, even years later. When it comes to sexual assault and rape, there are many factors which come into play. There is no denying how certain rapes and sexual assaults are treated and believed based on the victims and the attackers. Circumstances always play a part in the narrative.

As horrible as Dr. Ford has been treated this would play out, as it did with the death threats and shaming, if "she" were "he", Dr. Christopher Ford (male). would be receiving the same, if not possibly worse, treatment.

The "lesson" we all need to take away from this, as well as the Anita Hill assault and the MULTITUDE of child assaults at the hands of priests, is ALL victims need to be heard. It isn't a competition. The hypocrisy we are seeing is coming from all angles. A boy raped by a priest is no less a victim than a female teenager sexually assaulted. A sex worker is no less deserving of justice than a person who was dressed "provocatively". A teenage boy who is "seduced" by a female adult is just as much a victim as the reverse. A gay man who is raped by another man wasn't "asking for it" or not "really" raped because "you can't rape the willing." A straight man who was molested by a gay man is no less a victim than a gay man molested by a woman one.

What we are witnessing is a fucking travesty and an assault on the American ideal, but, at no point, do we need to create a "hierarchy" of victim(hood).

treestar

(82,383 posts)
14. I don't think male victims
Thu Sep 20, 2018, 11:02 AM
Sep 2018

Ever get criticism for where they were or how they were dressed. At least, I haven't heard that.

 

whistler162

(11,155 posts)
8. Funny how many boys did tell
Thu Sep 20, 2018, 06:19 AM
Sep 2018

and weren't believed, mocked, and shunned!

It is always good to rewrite history via twitter!

 

beachbum bob

(10,437 posts)
10. the difference is "boys" with an "s"", as more than one, Ford's accusations would be
Thu Sep 20, 2018, 07:17 AM
Sep 2018

more powerful IF other women step forward to echo same charge against Kavanaugh. IF kavanuagh was (is) a sexual predator, there should be the possibility of dozens of females stepping forward. So far, none have.

Believe me, I am not defending the POS kavanaugh in any way, but you have to be realistic with what is going on here

Vinca

(50,170 posts)
11. I think Republicans are making a huge miscalculation about the number of women who have
Thu Sep 20, 2018, 07:25 AM
Sep 2018

hidden attacks in their past. An 82 year old lady from Texas called the Washington Journal yesterday morning and she was furious. She related a story about an attack when she was a little girl that she never told anyone about. It brought back an incident from my high school days I've never talked about. Fifty years later I googled his name and got a little satisfaction when I learned he was dead. We get past it, but we don't forget.

dsc

(52,130 posts)
13. complete bullshit
Thu Sep 20, 2018, 10:55 AM
Sep 2018

It took decades for victims who came forward to be believed. Stories about priests doing this date to the 1950's with nothing being done for decades and decades. Boys started publicly coming forward in the 1980's and we heard all of the same nonsense then as we are hearing about Dr. Ford now. Mary Ann needs to pick up a book and lay off twitter.

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