Are DEMS overplaying Kavanaugh's sexual assault so close to the midterm?

[UncleTomsEvilBrother]

I'm sitting here remembering how absolutely horrified I was when 45 said, "Grab them by the P*ssy." I remember seeing the sadness in the eyes of the 19 women who came forward to accuse him of sexual assault. I watched him say that Megyn Kelly had blood coming out of whatever.

I'm sure you can appreciate, then, how astonished I was to find that 53% of white women voted for Trump.

Obviously, Dr. Ford needs her story heard. I believe her. I'm just wondering if DEMS, who have openly said they are depending on college educated white women to win midterms, should be so invested in the narrative surrounding Kavanaugh.

For some reason, focusing on sexual assault did not win 2016. What makes us think it'll win now?

[bettyellen]

1. Playing infers this is some sort of game. It's not to women. I'd rephrase the fuck outta this OP.

But that’s just me.
And FYI- the GOP is bleeding Dem women.

[Blue_true]

33. I felt the same way that you put in words.

How can a value be overplayed?

[bettyellen]

85. Just because everything the GOP does is played like a game doesn't make this one! I hate that some

of us only see it that way. The fight against Kavanaugh is not a game for any of us to sit in the side lines. It’s simply the right thing to do.

[guillaumeb]

2. It is one thing among many things that should be discussed.

And it points out yet again the blatant misogyny in the GOP.

[NurseJackie]

3. That concerns me too.

[BootinUp]

16. lol.nt

[manor321]

4. Huh?

This is real life, not a strategy. They're trying everything to defeat this nominee. And Ford's story is compelling reason #46 for why he shouldn't be on the court.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

5. It's not a matter of overplaying, or playing at all. It happened when it happened

and it has to be dealt with now. It's no game.

[Little Star]

10. [phone]

[steve2470]

22. totally agree nt

[dchill]

28. That's what I was going to say.

[ooky]

29. Exactly. Dems are playing the hand they were dealt.

I don't know another response, given the situation.

[gollygee]

46. OMG yes

holy crap. "Playing?"

[dlk]

6. Too Many Americans Had Naive Expectations With Respect to Trump

In nearly two years of Trump actually in the WH, reality has set in for many. I’m hopeful it will make a big difference in November.

[still_one]

7. The Democrats aren't over playing anything. This story has legs on its own, and the media is

pushing it, and rightfully so, because women will be a large part of the midterm election

[BumRushDaShow]

8. Here they come.

[elleng]

9. Senate committee is forcing this upon us.

[shanny]

11. no

[Fred Sanders]

12. "DEMS" always support women. Full stop.

And as we speak it is WE supporting a college educated white woman...if no one has noticed!

Not because of politics, because that is what we do.

[Downtown Hound]

13. If the Dems don't fight they're called wimps

If they do, they're "overplaying it."

Seriously just go away with your fake concern bullshit.

[Bettie]

23. +1000

Thank you.

This is important and I suspect it resonates for a whole lot of women.

[mcar]

31. Thank you

This place makes me sometimes.

[UncleTomsEvilBrother]

37. You do know...

...know that it was a question, right? I think your response is overly abrasive. I am simply having a discussion here.

[Downtown Hound]

42. And I gave you an answer

And my answer is I'm sick of wishy washy candy asses (or fake concern trolls here to implant doubt and stir up shit) who are too afraid to take a stand on something important like this. Join the fight or get out of the way, but we have no room for your "discussion" right now. It's time to fight. It has been time to fight since years ago. Be fucking proud that for once, the Dems are finally taking a hard stand on something important. And if you can't do that, kindly spare us your "concern."

One of the big differences between our party and theirs is they fight tooth and nail on the issues they care about. More often than not, voices like yours are what "prevails" in our party and we end up standing for nothing at all. If we can't take a stand against something as clear as sexual assault on the god damn supreme court, on a seat that was already stolen from us, then we might as well pack it in and give it up right now.

Is that a suitable answer for your "discussion?"

[UncleTomsEvilBrother]

44. Please...

...I stopped reading your message after "wishy washy".

For your information, I have spent the last three days preparing lunches for women and men who are working in shifts in order to march and protest at the Capitol Building to oppose Kavanaugh's approval to SCOTUS.

I have called my own state Senators with bot-like frequency, trying to jam their phone lines for no votes. I am a survivor of childhood sexual assault. Please don't try to act like you are some arbiter of DEM fighting because you can string together insults and expletives.

...and no, the drivel your posted is not a suitable answer for my "discussion".

[Downtown Hound]

45. Well then, If you're not going to read my posts I'll stop reading yours

Bye!

[spooky3]

63. I think the wording of your OP may not convey

What you meant. If what you are asking is whether some people are counting on this mess to win the election for them, one answer might be that maybe a few are. Some people might also agree that just as the horrors of 2016 were not enough, a lot of voters do not care about the Kavanaugh mess, and some are thrilled that he may be appointed. It is an awful commentary on where we are as a society.

[leftynyc]

60. Will you marry me?

I don't even know or care what gender you are. 😉

[Downtown Hound]

64. I am already taken. Very sorry.

[leftynyc]

68. Me too

Don't care. I love people that fight for what they think is right. Those willing to go to the mattresses are the ones who get shit done. And we need to get shit DONE.

[brush]

58. Yeah, sure. Such transparent bs.

[malaise]

74. Ding ding

Whelan-like.

[Blaukraut]

66. When would it be more convenient or politically expedient for women to finally get justice? n/t

[0rganism]

14. overplaying? wtf?

this isn't some jacked up game of poker.
this is about the senate considering the character of the next supreme court justice, prior to voting to consent to the nomination.
bringing up (and even focusing on) sexual assault in this context is not about Democrats winning an election in 2018 - arguably, it's possible Democrats could do better if Kavanaugh gets confirmed to the court.

so NO, the DEMS are not "overplaying Kavanaugh's sexual assault".

[Tarheel_Dem]

15. What an odd question for an "ally" to ask.

[steve2470]

18. +1 nt

[forgotmylogin]

43. And how odd to continuously capitalize DEMS

in an almost accusatory tone like they don't consider themselves one.

[MaryMagdaline]

17. Dems don't play

[MineralMan]

19. Nope. Nice try....

Do drop in again, though...

[steve2470]

20. no overplaying or playing being done here

This isn't a trivial matter. It's about Dr. Ford being given a respectful hearing. Hmmmm......

[Kingofalldems]

24. Too bad there is no Unrec for this transparent OP.

[roamer65]

25. The assault is a legitimate concern.

The pervert Thomas should not have been seated and this scumbag shouldn’t either.

[dawg day]

26. It's the right thing to do

Really, we already have a sexual predator on SCOTUS (and another in the White House).

The deciding vote on the Supreme Court should not be a sexual predator who lies and lies about it.

[MFM008]

27. Um no.

.......

[mcar]

30. So we should just drop it?

And ignore credible claims of sexual assault because some posit that Democrats are "overplaying?"

What about the victims? What about what is morally and ethically right?

Funny how some "progressive" voters insist on purity but some also are willing to overlook a lot.

[Blue_true]

32. How can someone overplay a value?

Sexual assault is wrong, whether he got her cloths off or not, it's wrong. Even if he tried to touch her or kiss her against her will, it is wrong. How can that be overplayed?????????

[tymorial]

34. No. It's not a game.

Eom.

[Squinch]

35. OH, Jesus. Go away.

[GoCubsGo]

36. Nice hit-and-run post!

I didn't realize that sexual assault is some sort of game that one can "overplay."

[UncleTomsEvilBrother]

38. I was only using "overplaying"...

...in its relation to the midterms. I stated my reasons for the questions.

Also, those of you who think you're hurting me with condescending remarks, I'm a single dad to a snarky 14 year old girl. I can take it.

Again, I'm saying the Kavanaugh situation seems to driving other DEMS causes from the front pages.

Sexual assault allegations has proven that it does not win elections for DEMS.

[GoCubsGo]

47. This has nothing to do with winning elections.

This is about giving a life-long judicial post on the highest court in the land to someone who has been accused of sexual assault (among other things.) You say you have a daughter. Do you want this asshole making decisions that could affect her ability to receive reproductive healthcare? Or, anything else that could affect her life. Or, your own?

[Squinch]

51. Healthcare, gun control and women's health can be overplayed? What the fuck?

Welcome to decency. No they can't.

[MrsCoffee]

77. You know who thinks sexual assault, healthcare, gun control and women's health are "overplayed"?

Fucking deplorables.

This website is for Democrats.

[Hekate]

39. Not just no, but hell no

[SidDithers]

41. Oh FFS...

Sid

[ChubbyStar]

48. Two recs for your thread

And one of them is from you. I guess your OP wasn't a hit.

[Separation]

49. Not sure if trolling

Or Russian.

[winstars]

50. How is the weather in St. Petersburg this time of year?

[Separation]

55. Was thinking the same thing myself.

Next thing ya know, some people are gonna start having doubts and making posts about this midterm and "think" about voting green or 3rd party.

[winstars]

70. The "Dems suck" crowd are well on the way here. Be vigilant.

[marybourg]

54. Lots of this from low post count

posters in past few days. Transparent goal: divisiveness. Just what the Ruskies are accused of. Coincidence?

[Separation]

59. I agree.

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Lmao and all this coming from a low poster such as myself.

That's ok though, I know certain people on this board irl, and I can be reached by phone if there ever is a question.

[Liberal In Texas]

52. No.

It's not a "play" or "overplaying" -- it is what it is. An assault that should be brought to light during the vetting of a Supreme Court nomination.

[chillfactor]

53. How do you "overplay" sexual assault? n/t

[ChubbyStar]

56. Civil people do not.... there is no "playing"

They take it seriously and respect the victim.

[Glorfindel]

57. How much trouble is it to spell out the word "Democrats?"

Or is "DEMS" some kind of weird acronym that only a privileged few can understand?

[tblue37]

72. Typing on a small tablet with clumsy arthritic fingers, I often abbreviate Dems. nt

[Glorfindel]

75. No offense intended, tblue37. I guess I'm showing my age.

I still use a desktop computer, I still use a flip phone, and the only tablet I have is an Amazon Kindle Fire, which I almost never use. Fortunately, I have escaped arthritis so far.

[EffieBlack]

61. Um ... no.

Any other questions?

[LiberalFighter]

62. Are you underplaying the importance of opposing sexual assault?

[Hekate]

65. I see that your deep, deep concern has not garnered much support or sympathy

Shame about that

[njhoneybadger]

67. I Don't think so. You can't overplay young women being raped.

And out of touch old men dismissing that rape as boys will be boys. It's really disgusting.
We don't pick and choose issues based on votes.

[vercetti2021]

69. Feeling you overplayed your hand

Feels like a hit piece of diversity.

[denbot]

71. Low post member, check. "Concern", check. Dems are making a mistake, check.

Enjoy your stay.

[pwb]

73. You made my list with this one.

[JHB]

76. No. I think his perjury and political hackery need to be mentioned more often...

...to avoid them disappearing in the media's "that was last week's news, who cares about it now?" syndrome, but hell, no, it's not being "overplayed".

[stonecutter357]

78. you seem very concerned ! Are DEMS overplaying NO but this OP is .

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[Zambero]

79. Thanks for asking

No.

[samnsara]

80. assaults dont take vacations

[tazkcmo]

81. No:

They're not playing.

[customerserviceguy]

82. It depends on how the testimony goes, in the end

Anita Hill always portrayed strength and resolve. Even though Thomas was confirmed, Hill's testimony still galvanized people in this country to stand up to sexual harassment, and workplace policies duly took note of the change of climate regarding this issue.

I've read a few things that give me pause about Dr. Ford. The Wapo article on her moving 3,000 miles away states that she was part of a social scene that actively attended unsupervised, alcohol-fueled parties. That is bound to come up in testimony. I've also seen speculation on why she won't fly to D.C., how she would rather drive. People go to psychologists to defeat phobias like fear of confined spaces, if she admits to such a condition, that might be used to attack her credibility as a professional. And, has anyone ever seen a picture of her without sunglasses? If she insists on wearing them during a hearing, because of the television lights, it's not going to be good optics.

The fact that she was so very reluctant to even want her name disclosed as recently as a couple of weeks ago means that she has anxieties that may be able to be triggered by even a feather-light interrogation. If she has a meltdown on camera, that will feed into the narrative from the Repukes that she is a nut job who made this all up.

Yes, I know it's "blame the victim", but that's always worked well for the GOP in the past.

[ellie]

83. No

Next question.

[WhiskeyGrinder]

84. 53 percent of white women voters picked Trump largely because of racism, so we're good!

[Aristus]

86. No. They're kicking ass at last. I'm tired of 'keeping our powder dry.'

Concern noted...