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CNN shilling for the GOP (Original Post) Lithos Sep 2018 OP
At what point did CNN ... NanceGreggs Sep 2018 #1
The GOPee thinks that because Poppy Bush got away with it in '90, they should use plants everywhere sandensea Sep 2018 #5
That doesn't change my question. NanceGreggs Sep 2018 #8
That IS a good question! sandensea Sep 2018 #9
Let's try staying on topic. NanceGreggs Sep 2018 #10
Sure. They deliberately misled their viewers, and did so in a way that favors Kavanaugh. sandensea Sep 2018 #13
How were viewers misled? NanceGreggs Sep 2018 #15
They weren't presented as the GOPee officials and fundraisers they were. sandensea Sep 2018 #17
You are so off-base here ... NanceGreggs Sep 2018 #19
They were identified as Republican women Kaleva Sep 2018 #11
Yes - but voters were led to believe these were everyday people, for that aw-shucks effect. sandensea Sep 2018 #12
Please produce the facts ... NanceGreggs Sep 2018 #16
You may have fell for it but I think most of us didn't. Kaleva Sep 2018 #18
They were identified only as Republican Lithos Sep 2018 #20
I will ask again. NanceGreggs Sep 2018 #21
CNN only introduced them as women who are Republicans Lithos Sep 2018 #22
"CNN only introduced them as women who are Republicans." NanceGreggs Sep 2018 #24
CNN self-labeled as a focus group Lithos Sep 2018 #25
Does Lithos gabeana Sep 2018 #23
"I have no sympathy for her" LuckyCharms Sep 2018 #2
CNN is shilling for CNN Sherman A1 Sep 2018 #3
Indeed. Spot on. BannonsLiver Sep 2018 #4
That's why I don't watch CNN. triron Sep 2018 #14
K&R Scurrilous Sep 2018 #6
Grrrr CHROME is acting up Separation Sep 2018 #7

sandensea

(21,621 posts)
5. The GOPee thinks that because Poppy Bush got away with it in '90, they should use plants everywhere
Sat Sep 22, 2018, 07:56 PM
Sep 2018


Nayirah al-Sabah, who unbeknownst to Congress was the daughter of the Kuwaiti ambassador, hamming it up for the cameras in 1990.

Her "babies ripped from incubators" tale (never verified, and widely believed to be fabricated) helped secure U.S. voter support for the 1991 invasion - and indirectly, for the 2003 invasion.

Arguably the GOP's favorite go-to deception ever since.

NanceGreggs

(27,813 posts)
8. That doesn't change my question.
Sat Sep 22, 2018, 08:24 PM
Sep 2018

When did CNN present this group as though they were randomly chosen off the street?

There was no deception here by CNN.

sandensea

(21,621 posts)
9. That IS a good question!
Sat Sep 22, 2018, 08:49 PM
Sep 2018

Big Media, contrary to GOPee whining about it being a "librul media," usually take the right-wing position on most big issues almost as a default.

There are exceptions like MSNBC (up to a point); but CNN definitely fits in this scheme.

To me, the most brazen recent example I can remember is their treatment of the Ebola scare back in 2014.

You'll recall that CNN almost singlehandadly turned what was obviously a matter of few isolated cases (of people who had been in Liberia, besides) into a nationwide panic - and kept pounding it until the elections.

And then, poof. Nary a word.

There is no question that McCocaine became Majority Leader thanks to the Ebola panic - which CNN was largely responsible for.

Real turnocoats, CNN.

NanceGreggs

(27,813 posts)
10. Let's try staying on topic.
Sat Sep 22, 2018, 09:32 PM
Sep 2018

The OP states that "CNN is shilling for the GOP" by interviewing these five Republican women.

When did CNN claim that these were random, off-the-street women who had no affiliation with their party's political endeavours?

The answer is they didn't.

sandensea

(21,621 posts)
13. Sure. They deliberately misled their viewers, and did so in a way that favors Kavanaugh.
Sat Sep 22, 2018, 10:49 PM
Sep 2018

That had to be calculated. Some of these women were paraded as everyday, cookie-baking people - when they certainly weren't.

Not knowing who they really were, whatever heavily rehearsed GOP talking points they recited thus sounded a lot more credible.

When we Democrats sometimes call Republicans pod people, this is what we mean. These people seem incapable of almost anything genuine.

NanceGreggs

(27,813 posts)
15. How were viewers misled?
Sat Sep 22, 2018, 11:04 PM
Sep 2018
"Some of these women were paraded as everyday, cookie-baking people."

Exactly what is an "everyday, cookie-baking person"? And please point out where CNN called them any such thing.

Do you think that when Democratic women are interviewed, they are chosen from a group of "everyday, cookie-baking people"?

This is just silly. Of course these women are pro-Kavanaugh - they're Republicans. That was the point of the interview, showing what Republican women are saying about him.






sandensea

(21,621 posts)
17. They weren't presented as the GOPee officials and fundraisers they were.
Sat Sep 22, 2018, 11:18 PM
Sep 2018

If CNN viewers had known that, eveything those ladies said would have been heard at in that context.

But by misleading people into thinking they were everyday Republican voters, like the kind one might run into at the grocery store (most likely in the mayonnaise aisle), whatever they had to say was thus presented as a disinterested personal opinion - rather than as rehearsed, focus group-honed spin by, basically, a politician.

That's journalistic malpractice. And one designed to benefit just one individual:

NanceGreggs

(27,813 posts)
19. You are so off-base here ...
Sat Sep 22, 2018, 11:34 PM
Sep 2018

... it's like listening to a FOX-News adherent whining about Democrats having any airtime on their news outlet of choice.

I'll ask again: Please provide any facts that support your allegation that CNN presented these women as "everyday, cookie-baking" women" (whatever the fuck that's supposed to mean).





sandensea

(21,621 posts)
12. Yes - but voters were led to believe these were everyday people, for that aw-shucks effect.
Sat Sep 22, 2018, 10:45 PM
Sep 2018

When they were anything but.

NanceGreggs

(27,813 posts)
16. Please produce the facts ...
Sat Sep 22, 2018, 11:15 PM
Sep 2018

... that underpin your contention that CNN led anyone to believe that "these were everyday people" who had no affiliation with their party's activities.

Guess what? "Everyday people" - Republicans and Democrats alike - are quite often people who are active in their respective parties. They show up at political events, they canvass or phone-bank for their party's candidates, they participate in fund-raisers for the politicians they support.

I'm at a loss as to why you don't understand that.

Lithos

(26,403 posts)
20. They were identified only as Republican
Sun Sep 23, 2018, 12:07 AM
Sep 2018

Instead of being part of the Republican machine itself.

Also, this style of mis-representation mainstreams views which are not held by the majority of people. Ie, it's a tactic done often by Faux news.

NanceGreggs

(27,813 posts)
21. I will ask again.
Sun Sep 23, 2018, 12:22 AM
Sep 2018

At what point did CNN represent these women as anything other than Republicans expressing their views as Republicans?

If CNN depicted them as Republican women who have no affiliation with their party's political endeavours, please provide quotes whereby they did so.

TIA.

Lithos

(26,403 posts)
22. CNN only introduced them as women who are Republicans
Sun Sep 23, 2018, 12:50 AM
Sep 2018

They did not identify them as being women who work for the Republican Party, it's officials, or affiliated/allied groups. There is a huge distinction between the two. Or should I post the picture of the "concerned citizens" during the Florida recount?

Three of the five women

Lourdes Castillo de la Pena - Appointee on the Florida Commission on the Status of Women by the Republican Governor. GOP Operator - who hosted $1000/plate sessions.
Irina Villarino - Trump supporter who was part of a photo-op roundtable he did for his Tax cuts.
Gina Sosa - Failed GOP candidate for the 27th Congressional District. Ran as an ultra-conservative. Appears semi-frequently on Fox and CNN.

Several of these women were also interviewed by the same reporter in a piece entitled _Is Trump in trouble with female voters_

https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2018/02/13/female-trump-supporters-rob-porter-accusations-reaction-kaye-dnt-ac.cnn

Seems like an awfully biased "focus group". None of this was mentioned.






NanceGreggs

(27,813 posts)
24. "CNN only introduced them as women who are Republicans."
Sun Sep 23, 2018, 01:07 AM
Sep 2018

Where was the dishonesty in identifying them as exactly that, "women who are Republicans"?

When did CNN identify them as "women who are Republicans who have no affiliation with their party's political events, and have never participated in said events"?

They were also not identified as being a "focus group".

CNN presented them as "Republican women" - nothing more, nothing less. And if you think Republican women were going to veer away from the "Kavanaugh is a great nominee" message, on CNN or elsewhere, you were the one who was "misled" by virtue of your own desire to hear only what you want to hear.

Lithos

(26,403 posts)
25. CNN self-labeled as a focus group
Sun Sep 23, 2018, 01:28 AM
Sep 2018

At this point, I will not answer further, you and I are in complete disagreement. CNN failed transparency and presented a Republican commercial featuring known shills when they were implying an in depth look inside the average woman Republican's mind

The producers selected these people in advance knowing what they would say, they knew these women as they were in the Rolodex. The answers were a given.

gabeana

(3,166 posts)
23. Does Lithos
Sun Sep 23, 2018, 01:06 AM
Sep 2018

Post answer your question? I watched when it happened and they were just mentioned as Republican women, I was disgusted and posted on DU and if they had mentioned that they were connected,run for office and fundraisers I would have mentioned it

Sherman A1

(38,958 posts)
3. CNN is shilling for CNN
Sat Sep 22, 2018, 07:43 PM
Sep 2018

It's always about "the horse race" to keep your eyes on their Breathless 23/7 Cable Noise Infotainment long enough for them to get to the commercial for a drug you never knew you needed.

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