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louis c

(8,652 posts)
Sat Sep 22, 2018, 09:50 PM Sep 2018

The real reason Mark Judge won't appear at the Senate hearing

The reason Bret Kavanaugh's friend won't appear at the hearing and the Republican majority doesn't want him there isn't because he will testify, it's that he won't.

Mr. Judge has a lengthy written history, writing two books about his excessive life style in high school and college. He will never remember what happened in the night in question, but that's not the point. To have 10 Democratic Senators, some with prosecutorial experience, asking Mr. Judge questions puts this man in great legal peril of perjury, and he knows it.

If Mark Judge is called before the Senate, he will undoubtedly take the 5th, which is his right. But, this confirmation hearing is not a trial and Mr. Judge is not a defendant. In this hearing, taking the fifth against self-incrimination does not protect him from anyone inferring a negative opinion of the witness, just as it would in a civil trial. Only a defendant in a criminal trial has that innocent inference.

So, if Mark Judge appears and invokes his 5th amendment rights, Kavanaugh is cooked and the Republicans know it.

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The real reason Mark Judge won't appear at the Senate hearing (Original Post) louis c Sep 2018 OP
Don't assume Judge will never remember. rainy Sep 2018 #1
Maybe so, but he certainly won't say louis c Sep 2018 #2
I though that Ford said she net him again a few years later and he became very nervous grantcart Sep 2018 #3
I don't have any recollection of that, Senator... nt TwistOneUp Sep 2018 #5
Quotes in the books he wrote... louis c Sep 2018 #12
He would be a bad, bad witness for Brett. blogslut Sep 2018 #4
Mr. Judge will take the fifth. louis c Sep 2018 #13
Bill Maher said something that was news to me last night. BigmanPigman Sep 2018 #6
I'll bet Avenatti knows. dchill Sep 2018 #9
Ford, Kavanaugh Izzy Blue Sep 2018 #10
That's interesting. I just googled the other guests at that party BigmanPigman Sep 2018 #11
How did she get home? Grasswire2 Sep 2018 #14
Good question. BigmanPigman Sep 2018 #17
remembers as the only night for Kav OR one of many lostnfound Sep 2018 #7
Can you smell something frying? apkhgp Sep 2018 #8
and whose house were they at? nt Grasswire2 Sep 2018 #15
Maybe he didn't always just watch. lunatica Sep 2018 #16
 

louis c

(8,652 posts)
12. Quotes in the books he wrote...
Sun Sep 23, 2018, 09:15 AM
Sep 2018

...will be asked by Dem Senators. Remember, 10 Democrats get to ask questions, too.

blogslut

(37,955 posts)
4. He would be a bad, bad witness for Brett.
Sat Sep 22, 2018, 10:11 PM
Sep 2018

This is how it would go:

Q: Mr Judge did you attend the party?

A: No.

Q: Were you an alcoholic in high school?

A: Well, I was young and I drank a lot...

Q: You wrote book about your teenage alcoholism. You described being heavily intoxicated numerous times. Did you get blackout drunk in high school?

Q: Look, I...

A: How can you be sure you weren't at that party when its entirely possible it happened on one of the nights where you drank so much you don't remember what you did?

BigmanPigman

(51,432 posts)
6. Bill Maher said something that was news to me last night.
Sat Sep 22, 2018, 10:19 PM
Sep 2018

He said that only 5 people were at that party. Who are the other two? Where are they now?

 

Izzy Blue

(282 posts)
10. Ford, Kavanaugh
Sun Sep 23, 2018, 12:35 AM
Sep 2018

Mark Judge
Patrick J. Symth...
The female Leland Kaiser (sp) whose attorney just released a statement denying she was there.

BigmanPigman

(51,432 posts)
11. That's interesting. I just googled the other guests at that party
Sun Sep 23, 2018, 01:24 AM
Sep 2018

and none mentioned the woman and the other guest Smyth has denied being at the party. So people involved either don't remember or flat out deny being there. How are the Senators going to be able to make any real investigation if these are the witnesses? They won't even call/subpoena the other three at the party to testify. The FBI must be called in to get to the bottom of this mess.

Grasswire2

(13,564 posts)
14. How did she get home?
Sun Sep 23, 2018, 04:59 PM
Sep 2018

Whoever took her home or was at home would be a witness to her state of mind, potentially.

BigmanPigman

(51,432 posts)
17. Good question.
Sun Sep 23, 2018, 08:04 PM
Sep 2018

We will never get the real story until many years from now when the Dem Senate is finally in control.

lostnfound

(16,138 posts)
7. remembers as the only night for Kav OR one of many
Sat Sep 22, 2018, 10:26 PM
Sep 2018

If that was the only time, it would be remarkable enough to remember. Would use it later to razz him or bluster.

If not the only time, that would be damaging too.

I agree, he will not testify for fear of perjury.

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