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If I live in a red state that Obama won't win in 2012 (Original Post) RiffRandell Jan 2012 OP
You want to vote Dem, but DON'T vote? elleng Jan 2012 #1
No, if enough Dem votes are cast it gets the R's attention and the DNC which may send some flamin lib Jan 2012 #2
The DNC will not be sending any support to my deep red state. There are not enough Dems here. LonePirate Jan 2012 #11
Every state matters. Nobody knows what states Obama will win. Don't believe me? pnwmom Jan 2012 #3
Rs control every statewide and Congressional office plus super majorities in my state legislature LonePirate Jan 2012 #12
And that will never change if people like you don't bother to vote. pnwmom Jan 2012 #16
Good Democrats run and get their asses kicked here. It's not a matter of Dems not voting for them. LonePirate Jan 2012 #17
I would vote for whoever you feel like DJ13 Jan 2012 #4
Yup bigwillq Jan 2012 #5
Precisely Sherman A1 Jan 2012 #18
nope, any vote not cast for him is a wasted vote Motown_Johnny Jan 2012 #6
Very happy that NC Dems did not fall for that idiotic crap in 2008!!! JoePhilly Jan 2012 #7
And... Wait Wut Jan 2012 #13
The intent is to depress turn out ... that's all it is. JoePhilly Jan 2012 #14
Whoever (or whatever network or website) told you that has an agenda... wakemewhenitsover Jan 2012 #8
I live in the ONLY state that didn't have a SINGLE county go to Obama. Behind the Aegis Jan 2012 #9
We live in the REDDIST of the Red states Wellstone ruled Jan 2012 #10
Make sure all your dem family members, friends, & neighbors are registered to vote, then VOTE! Tx4obama Jan 2012 #15
No vote is wasted tabbycat31 Jan 2012 #19
Use you vote or lose your vote. Lint Head Jan 2012 #20
I do, too. But... GoCubsGo Jan 2012 #21
Seriously..I read this on a "progressive" site RiffRandell Jan 2012 #22

elleng

(130,724 posts)
1. You want to vote Dem, but DON'T vote?
Tue Jan 3, 2012, 06:27 PM
Jan 2012

Yes, wasting your vote; not enabling anyones to know that you WANT to vote Dem, even in red state 'that Obama won't win.'

flamin lib

(14,559 posts)
2. No, if enough Dem votes are cast it gets the R's attention and the DNC which may send some
Tue Jan 3, 2012, 06:27 PM
Jan 2012

national support to your state.

Only a vote not cast is wasted.

pnwmom

(108,955 posts)
3. Every state matters. Nobody knows what states Obama will win. Don't believe me?
Tue Jan 3, 2012, 06:27 PM
Jan 2012

Richard Nixon won 49 states. George McGovern, 1.

Anything can happen, and much can change between the end of polling and an actual election.

Besides, if you don't vote, how are you going to help Obama get the Congress that he needs to achieve progressive goals? Even the reddest state has some Democratic office holders.

LonePirate

(13,408 posts)
12. Rs control every statewide and Congressional office plus super majorities in my state legislature
Tue Jan 3, 2012, 07:10 PM
Jan 2012

It is very tough to be a Dem in my state (Kansas) right now.

pnwmom

(108,955 posts)
16. And that will never change if people like you don't bother to vote.
Tue Jan 3, 2012, 07:29 PM
Jan 2012

Why would a good Democrat run if he thinks even Democrats won't vote for him?

Sherman A1

(38,958 posts)
18. Precisely
Tue Jan 3, 2012, 07:36 PM
Jan 2012

It is your vote to cast or not cast in any manner you choose. What others think is frankly immaterial.

 

Motown_Johnny

(22,308 posts)
6. nope, any vote not cast for him is a wasted vote
Tue Jan 3, 2012, 06:29 PM
Jan 2012

Just vote a straight (D) ticket. It helps all the other Democrats in your state when they know that you are out there willing to show up and vote even though you won't win this cycle. There is more to voting than the one election.

JoePhilly

(27,787 posts)
7. Very happy that NC Dems did not fall for that idiotic crap in 2008!!!
Tue Jan 3, 2012, 06:48 PM
Jan 2012

We turned NC blue, kicked Liddy Dole to the curb, and then got to go to bed relatively early knowing that Obama had already won.

Losers stay home.

Wait Wut

(8,492 posts)
13. And...
Tue Jan 3, 2012, 07:13 PM
Jan 2012

McCain damn near lost his own state!! Even he thinks it's possible that Pres. Obama could win Arizona this election. But, there are a lot of us Dems in "higher" country that live in bright red areas that read this kind of crap and agree. I almost lost my mind trying to convince Dems in my town to friggin' vote. Many said it was a "waste of time" because Arizona is a red state. If all those pessimists had voted, we may very well have put Arizona on Pres. Obama's list of accomplishments.

JoePhilly

(27,787 posts)
14. The intent is to depress turn out ... that's all it is.
Tue Jan 3, 2012, 07:16 PM
Jan 2012

The only way the GOP can win is block or suppress the vote.

wakemewhenitsover

(1,595 posts)
8. Whoever (or whatever network or website) told you that has an agenda...
Tue Jan 3, 2012, 06:55 PM
Jan 2012

...and that agenda is not that they are concerned about you and want to make sure you don't exert yourself unnecessarily.

Behind the Aegis

(53,919 posts)
9. I live in the ONLY state that didn't have a SINGLE county go to Obama.
Tue Jan 3, 2012, 06:58 PM
Jan 2012

It doesn't mean I won't vote. A vote is NEVER wasted, IMO. I may not agree with how someone votes, but as Americans, we should ALWAYS vote.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
10. We live in the REDDIST of the Red states
Tue Jan 3, 2012, 06:59 PM
Jan 2012

No way in HELL will we not vote and it will be for Obama!!! Hear this garbage every day,Romney's kids have winter homes in my area,crap is still crap. Unbelievable intimidation coming from the locals. Only information these low I.Q. voters gets,comes from GOP-TV (FOX).

We will have our local Caucasus's in April and the usual 12-15 Dems will be there doing our best. All of us are retired Union folks,imagine the pain we see,right to work state where the Tea Baggers(GOP) have taken the seniority away for the Teachers Union. And we have not seen the end to this sh*t.

Tx4obama

(36,974 posts)
15. Make sure all your dem family members, friends, & neighbors are registered to vote, then VOTE!
Tue Jan 3, 2012, 07:20 PM
Jan 2012

Hell, Obama won ALL of our largest cities/counties (except for one) here in Texas in 2008.
Obama got over 3.5 MILLION votes down here from us Texans.
Texas is now more BLUE than red

VOTE VOTE VOTE



tabbycat31

(6,336 posts)
19. No vote is wasted
Tue Jan 3, 2012, 07:39 PM
Jan 2012

However, if you live in a state that is deep red, you might want to get involved with your local and/or county Democratic party and think about some candidates to run at the local levels.

The way to rebuild a Democratic party is from the ground up, and the smaller the race, the more it affects you. What your mayor does is going to affect you a lot more directly than anything Obama (or any other president) does.

Lint Head

(15,064 posts)
20. Use you vote or lose your vote.
Tue Jan 3, 2012, 07:40 PM
Jan 2012

I prefer to use my right to vote. I always feels good to vote against ignorant repukes and the war criminals they support..

GoCubsGo

(32,074 posts)
21. I do, too. But...
Tue Jan 3, 2012, 07:44 PM
Jan 2012

I take great joy in knowing that my vote will cancel out that of one of the idiot wingnuts who surround me. BTW, even in my reddest of "red" states, President Obama leads every last rethug candidate in the latest polls. That he "won't win" any state is not a given.

RiffRandell

(5,909 posts)
22. Seriously..I read this on a "progressive" site
Tue Jan 3, 2012, 08:18 PM
Jan 2012

"If I live in a red state and vote for Obama, I am wasting my vote."

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