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steve2470

(37,457 posts)
Sun Sep 23, 2018, 02:09 PM Sep 2018

Graham: Ford's testimony won't change my vote

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/09/23/kavanaugh-ford-lindsey-graham-837391

Sen. Lindsey Graham said Sunday the testimony of Brett Kavanaugh’s accuser won’t change his mind, no matter what she says.

“You can’t bring it in a criminal court, you would never sue civilly, you couldn’t even get a warrant,” Graham said on “Fox News Sunday” with Chris Wallace. “What am I supposed to do? Go ahead and ruin this guy’s life based on an accusation? I don’t know when it happened, I don’t know where it happened, and everybody named in regard to being there said it didn’t happen.”

Kavanaugh’s accuser, Christine Blasey Ford, has said Kavanaugh assaulted her at a party when they were both in high school. Therapist‘s notes from 2012 reference an attempted assault by students “from an elitist boys’ school” who went on to become “highly respected and high-ranking members of society in Washington.” The notes did not name Kavanaugh (a graduate of Georgetown Prep), and other students have said they don’t remember the party Ford described.

The Senate Judiciary Committee on Saturday tentatively agreed to a hearing with Ford this week after exchanges with her lawyer, but Graham said it won’t change his vote — absent additional information.



Not surprised at all about Graham. ALL the other Republicans are just like him. Murkowski might be salvageable only because of her need to maintain Native Alaskan support.
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Graham: Ford's testimony won't change my vote (Original Post) steve2470 Sep 2018 OP
Really? So you have made up your mind already before even hearing her side of smirkymonkey Sep 2018 #1
49 democratic senators better vote no democratic friend Sep 2018 #26
No, I don't. But what makes the person so sure that Ford is going to blow it by being there smirkymonkey Sep 2018 #29
Since there are a dozen other reasons to vote no, Croney Sep 2018 #35
Of course it won't Thrill Sep 2018 #2
No big surprise. triron Sep 2018 #3
Hypocrite anus thegoose Sep 2018 #4
Like we didn't already know that? He didn't need to say it. Solly Mack Sep 2018 #5
WTF is wrong with Lindsey Graham! democratisphere Sep 2018 #6
kompromat nm Jarqui Sep 2018 #13
Hardly. This is just what he is. PSPS Sep 2018 #20
I think it's both Bradshaw3 Sep 2018 #33
Easy. He wants to be TOADUS' next Attorney General. nt COLGATE4 Sep 2018 #30
Yep. And voting No on confirmation is "not ruining a man's life"... red herrings everywhere. Fred Sanders Sep 2018 #34
The mass media always wants to make it a 'horse race' so COLGATE4 Sep 2018 #36
He 's pro-rapist Fullduplexxx Sep 2018 #7
He would vote for Satan in a MAGA hat. n/t moondust Sep 2018 #8
From everything I'm hearing about Kavanaugh, he is. catbyte Sep 2018 #14
Ruin his life? Such melodrama. Nt BootinUp Sep 2018 #9
He's of the "it's his turn" mindset. PSPS Sep 2018 #21
There's another one who needs to read Doug Jones' tweet. spooky3 Sep 2018 #10
Recalling what Senator Doug Jones said in his tweet. Ohiogal Sep 2018 #11
Lindsey was threatened with something or promised something EleanorR Sep 2018 #12
The butt sucking started last year YessirAtsaFact Sep 2018 #16
Not "compromised." This is just what he is. PSPS Sep 2018 #22
. dalton99a Sep 2018 #15
So Lindsey you ask what you are supposed to do? ooky Sep 2018 #17
What kompromat do the Russians have on you, Lindsey? CrispyQ Sep 2018 #18
Enough with this "kompromat" nonsense. This is just the kind of people they are. PSPS Sep 2018 #23
Now THAT'S some real Americanism right there: dismissing Ford's argument before it's even made. VOX Sep 2018 #19
Lindsey hasn't been the same since his golf game with Trump. Patterson Sep 2018 #24
Komromat icaria Sep 2018 #41
It won't change your scum bag, wretched character either, Pal. Beyond repugnant n/t Guilded Lilly Sep 2018 #25
We all KNOW that, Lindsey!! it would take too long to take your lips off Spanky's fat ass to think!! donkeypoofed Sep 2018 #27
Keep talking asshole. NT Bleacher Creature Sep 2018 #28
Sweet Lindsay Has Announced He Has No Intention of Letting the Facts Interfere with His Agenda dlk Sep 2018 #31
Craven douchenozzle. The standard of proof isn't reasonable doubt, The Velveteen Ocelot Sep 2018 #32
Well we know he'll never be accused of raping or molesting a woman because he is a gay man kimbutgar Sep 2018 #37
Graham can't make a sensible decision without advice from McCain. Frustratedlady Sep 2018 #38
Hes not even going to pretend MFM008 Sep 2018 #39
He can leave his chair empty at Thursday's hearing then DeminPennswoods Sep 2018 #40
 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
1. Really? So you have made up your mind already before even hearing her side of
Sun Sep 23, 2018, 02:11 PM
Sep 2018

the story? Doesn't sound very fair and impartial to me. Spineless weasel. Is there one republican man that can ever be counted on to do the right thing for once?

 

democratic friend

(137 posts)
26. 49 democratic senators better vote no
Sun Sep 23, 2018, 02:52 PM
Sep 2018

Do you want them to change their minds by what they hear? I don’t. Vote no, no matter what.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
29. No, I don't. But what makes the person so sure that Ford is going to blow it by being there
Sun Sep 23, 2018, 02:56 PM
Sep 2018

in person. Can't we allow her the decency of hearing her side of the story without pre-judging her?

Croney

(4,656 posts)
35. Since there are a dozen other reasons to vote no,
Sun Sep 23, 2018, 03:08 PM
Sep 2018

I wouldn't expect their decision to hinge solely on her testimony. So yes, vote no no matter what she says. We can only hope that some Repugs are swayed.

Bradshaw3

(7,484 posts)
33. I think it's both
Sun Sep 23, 2018, 03:06 PM
Sep 2018

yeah he is a weasel but what little spine he had has been drained away by what they have on him.

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
34. Yep. And voting No on confirmation is "not ruining a man's life"... red herrings everywhere.
Sun Sep 23, 2018, 03:06 PM
Sep 2018

They want this trial of character to be a criminal trial...I am sure committee Democrats will not let them, but will the mass media let them? Signs are not good to date.

COLGATE4

(14,732 posts)
36. The mass media always wants to make it a 'horse race' so
Sun Sep 23, 2018, 03:08 PM
Sep 2018

they will be less than honest in presenting a fair balance of what goes on.

spooky3

(34,401 posts)
10. There's another one who needs to read Doug Jones' tweet.
Sun Sep 23, 2018, 02:16 PM
Sep 2018

And these meatheads are simply daring her to do a media blitz with sympathetic interviewers and her lawyers, and to file charges with Montgomery County police.

Ohiogal

(31,889 posts)
11. Recalling what Senator Doug Jones said in his tweet.
Sun Sep 23, 2018, 02:17 PM
Sep 2018

A juror who states his or her mind is already made up before a trial is over is grounds for a mistrial and removal of the judge. I thought Graham was a former JAG prosecutor. You'd think he would know this. But somehow, the Trump effect has made every last Republican's brains ooze out of a hole until their heads are completely empty.

Another thing that all of them are forgetting ..... Regardless of where their sympathies lie, it's the fact that Kavanaugh DENIED this ever happened. He has out and out lied about it. And that is another huge black mark against his integrity.

EleanorR

(2,385 posts)
12. Lindsey was threatened with something or promised something
Sun Sep 23, 2018, 02:18 PM
Sep 2018

He's been sucking on trump's ass ever since McCain passed away.

ooky

(8,905 posts)
17. So Lindsey you ask what you are supposed to do?
Sun Sep 23, 2018, 02:25 PM
Sep 2018

Just do what you would do if the judge was the nominee by a Democratic president. We all know what that would be.

CrispyQ

(36,413 posts)
18. What kompromat do the Russians have on you, Lindsey?
Sun Sep 23, 2018, 02:32 PM
Sep 2018

One 180° you've done on Trump is stunning.

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Traitors to their country & cowards of the highest order, Grassley & Hatch want a woman attorney to ask Ford their questions.

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Traitors to their gender & their country if they vote yes on this nominee:

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VOX

(22,976 posts)
19. Now THAT'S some real Americanism right there: dismissing Ford's argument before it's even made.
Sun Sep 23, 2018, 02:36 PM
Sep 2018

Just how DENSE are Republicans these days? (That’s rhetorical, no answer needed).

donkeypoofed

(2,187 posts)
27. We all KNOW that, Lindsey!! it would take too long to take your lips off Spanky's fat ass to think!!
Sun Sep 23, 2018, 02:54 PM
Sep 2018

I also happen to think Spanky is blackmailing you! Likely about money. How you went from a man John McCain saw as likeable and a friend to the pasty sycophant you turned into is beyond my ken. Geez. What happened to you? Do you like what you are now? How does it feel ?

Also - you should disengage your lips from Spanky's ass ASAP as that is just not sanitary.

dlk

(11,509 posts)
31. Sweet Lindsay Has Announced He Has No Intention of Letting the Facts Interfere with His Agenda
Sun Sep 23, 2018, 03:00 PM
Sep 2018

How many ways can you spell M-I-S-O-G-Y-N-I-S-T?

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,573 posts)
32. Craven douchenozzle. The standard of proof isn't reasonable doubt,
Sun Sep 23, 2018, 03:04 PM
Sep 2018

and the burden of proof is on Kavanaugh, not Ford. He's applying for a job, not defending a criminal charge, and it's up to him to prove that he's qualified for that job. https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/kavanaughs-senate-hearing-isnt-a-trial-the-standard-isnt-reasonable-doubt/2018/09/20/1eb1ee34-bd15-11e8-b7d2-0773aa1e33da_story.htm

kimbutgar

(21,039 posts)
37. Well we know he'll never be accused of raping or molesting a woman because he is a gay man
Sun Sep 23, 2018, 03:14 PM
Sep 2018

Lindsey is such a hypocrite. I wonder though if he has ever sexually assaulted a young male?

Frustratedlady

(16,254 posts)
38. Graham can't make a sensible decision without advice from McCain.
Sun Sep 23, 2018, 03:35 PM
Sep 2018

Not very bright of him to make a decision without hearing what the story is.

You've got it backwards, Lindsey, but Trump will be happy. For shame.

MFM008

(19,803 posts)
39. Hes not even going to pretend
Sun Sep 23, 2018, 03:52 PM
Sep 2018

and make little squawking noises of interest.
These arrogant assholes are going to get it one way or another.

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