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highplainsdem

(48,895 posts)
Sun Sep 23, 2018, 09:27 PM Sep 2018

Classmate who corroborates Ramirez remembers Kavanaugh as shy when sober, aggressive when drunk

https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/senate-democrats-investigate-a-new-allegation-of-sexual-misconduct-from-the-supreme-court-nominee-brett-kavanaughs-college-years-deborah-ramirez


The New Yorker has not confirmed with other eyewitnesses that Kavanaugh was present at the party. The magazine contacted several dozen classmates of Ramirez and Kavanaugh regarding the incident. Many did not respond to interview requests; others declined to comment, or said they did not attend or remember the party. A classmate of Ramirez’s, who declined to be identified because of the partisan battle over Kavanaugh’s nomination, said that another student told him about the incident either on the night of the party or in the next day or two. The classmate said that he is “one-hundred-per-cent sure” that he was told at the time that Kavanaugh was the student who exposed himself to Ramirez. He independently recalled many of the same details offered by Ramirez, including that a male student had encouraged Kavanaugh as he exposed himself. The classmate, like Ramirez, recalled that the party took place in a common room on the first floor in Entryway B of Lawrance Hall, during their freshman year. “I’ve known this all along,” he said. “It’s been on my mind all these years when his name came up. It was a big deal.” The story stayed with him, he said, because it was disturbing and seemed outside the bounds of typically acceptable behavior, even during heavy drinking at parties on campus. The classmate said that he had been shocked, but not necessarily surprised, because the social group to which Kavanaugh belonged often drank to excess. He recalled Kavanaugh as “relatively shy” until he drank, at which point he said that Kavanaugh could become “aggressive and even belligerent.”

Another classmate, Richard Oh, an emergency-room doctor in California, recalled overhearing, soon after the party, a female student tearfully recounting to another student an incident at a party involving a gag with a fake penis, followed by a male student exposing himself. Oh is not certain of the identity of the female student. Ramirez told her mother and sister about an upsetting incident at the time, but did not describe the details to either due to her embarrassment.
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Classmate who corroborates Ramirez remembers Kavanaugh as shy when sober, aggressive when drunk (Original Post) highplainsdem Sep 2018 OP
Let's have Kavanaugh down a drink with every question gratuitous Sep 2018 #1
+1 honest.abe Sep 2018 #2
After His Name Is Withdrawn From Nomination.... global1 Sep 2018 #4
Or go to alcohol rehab. IggleDuer Sep 2018 #7
funny enough mercuryblues Sep 2018 #3
I know drunks like this superpatriotman Sep 2018 #5
roommate remembers him "frequently, incoherently drunk." . How can we trust those calendars he has? lunasun Sep 2018 #6

mercuryblues

(14,521 posts)
3. funny enough
Sun Sep 23, 2018, 09:38 PM
Sep 2018

Kavanaugh confirmed he has that type of behavior in an e-mail about "boys weekend"


"Apologies to all for missing Friday(good excuse), arriving late Saturday (bad excuse), and growing aggressive after still blowing another game of dice (don't remember)"

lunasun

(21,646 posts)
6. roommate remembers him "frequently, incoherently drunk." . How can we trust those calendars he has?
Sun Sep 23, 2018, 09:46 PM
Sep 2018

“She stood out as being exceptionally honest and gentle. I cannot imagine her making this up.” He said that he never witnessed Kavanaugh engage in any sexual misconduct, but did recall him being “frequently, incoherently drunk.” He described Ramirez as a vulnerable outsider.

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