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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsRonan Farrow on CNN now is laying it out.
Deborah Ramirez's account corroborated by Yale classmates who heard about the incident immediately after it happened. Farrow and Mayer spoke with classmates who independently discussed the same fact pattern with Farrow given by Ms. Ramirez. There is an email chain of Yale alumni talking about the incident prior to Dr. Blasey Ford coming forward.
He said that the corroboration of Ms. Ramirez's allegation is a very high bar that is rarely meet.
He also said there are other things that they left out.
Farrow also says there was a "wide group" of people in Washington, both democratic and republican staffers, who knew of these allegations last week.
PearliePoo2
(7,768 posts)The news is coming so fast and furious my head is spinning!
empedocles
(15,751 posts)JCMach1
(27,553 posts)Of the story...
Jarqui
(10,122 posts)which is why the GOP tried to rush Ford's testimony ...
They knew of the allegations and wanted Kavanaugh on the Supreme Court anyway.
mercuryblues
(14,522 posts)their time investigating these claims, before they were made public, the repukes were trying to ram kavanrape's nomination through. Coming up with ways to smear this victim and trying to silence Dr. Ford.
Jarqui
(10,122 posts)apkhgp
(1,068 posts)I would have to say that when you stoop to the level of putting a con artist and fraud into the most important office in our land then there is not much worse that you could do to surprise me.
lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)Jarqui
(10,122 posts)DemocracyMouse
(2,275 posts)Nothing else matters to these desperate men. Why the untainted GOP members aren't bailing on the traitors is beyond me unless every last one of them took money from the Russian criminal cartel.
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)The idea that these elite white men all rallied 'round this molester, even though they KNEW about all this last week and kept it secret....I'm so mad....and at the same time saddened to know that things are this way. Just like it was 100 years ago.
Iliyah
(25,111 posts)with the latest allegations.
I'm pretty sure there is more information, but alas, GOPers won't release the other 1,000 pages of documents.
lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)Pigs.
Merlot
(9,696 posts)but my guess is they knew it all along, anotherr reason for the rush to confirm.
Achilleaze
(15,543 posts)repubes piss all over the concepts of truth, integrity and honor.
Donkees
(31,338 posts)DemoTex
(25,390 posts)forgotmylogin
(7,520 posts)jmbar2
(4,863 posts)Thanks - I'm gonna need it. What forklift driver hasn't?
forgotmylogin
(7,520 posts)I bet he doesn't work there anymore though!
Those looked like bags of cement or soil or fertilizer on the shelves.
lunatica
(53,410 posts)and then fire him!
durablend
(7,455 posts)Donkees
(31,338 posts)watoos
(7,142 posts)The NY Times gets to be the arbiter of the truth here. (sarcasm)
There needs to be a push for an FBI investigation, not investigations by news outlets.
madaboutharry
(40,190 posts)Ronan Farrow works for The New Yorker magazine not the New York Times. Farrow also just won a Pulitzer Prize and has a reputation as a meticulous journalist.
The FBI needs to investigate all of the allegations.
watoos
(7,142 posts)I was complaining about Michael Schmidt using Republican talking points to defend Kavanaugh.
I was not bashing Farrow, I was bashing people who have a platform, like Schmidt, to bash the victim.
The FBI, not Ghouliani's people, need to investigate Kavanaugh and Judge, and that needs to be narrative we push for.
madaboutharry
(40,190 posts)Eyeball_Kid
(7,429 posts)Mueller or his team wrote the 44 questions presumably to ask Trumpy if/when he gets interviewed. In truth, it was the White House lawyers who created the questions and led Schmidt to believe that it was Muellers team.
brush
(53,743 posts)This Rosenstein/25th Amendment story is out just in time to distract from the Kavanaugh debacle and at the same time give trump reason to fired Rosenstein and then Muellar.
dem4decades
(11,269 posts)mcar
(42,278 posts)DownriverDem
(6,226 posts)folks were taking pills and drinking. kavanaugh and his buddies were giving women drugs (in their drinks?) and then setting them up for a male free for all. Clearly they never thought anyone would know about those days.
watoos
(7,142 posts)and I tried grain alcohol one time, one sip. I would never ever think about spiking anyone's drink with that stuff. Anyone who would do that was certainly up to no good.
LisaM
(27,794 posts)Hit me like a freight train, and I basically fell asleep, instantly, for the night. Guess what? My guy friend and his friends who were having the party didn't use it as an excuse to molest me. They attended to me, put me in a car with my ride, and I got home safely (and never touched grain alcohol again!) and woke up in my own apartment a few hours later.
Hermit-The-Prog
(33,254 posts)I was beginning to think my buddies and I were weirdos. Anybody, male or female, who over-indulged had to be taken care of, *not* assaulted.
There's a word for those who induce impaired judgment for the purpose of assault: predator.
LisaM
(27,794 posts)Just decent people. Can you imagine if every time a guy passed out at a party he woke up to find other people sexually assaulting him?
druidity33
(6,445 posts)and i of course think 'shine. No one should ever drink 'shine or "grain alcohol" straight... not many people would even be able to. It's meant to cut or mixed with something... and the percentage of alcohol to mixer can be critical/lethal. It can good in punch/juice/soda/whatever or more commonly for extracting vanilla/cacao/cardamom/spices. Check out the Swedish drink Glug (don't know how to trigger the umlaut) It's a preservative too. It kills all organisms it comes in contact with... if that's not a signal, not sure what is. Using 'shine on people unknowingly is basically like roofies before they became available to serial rapists and abusers. The shit will knock you on your ass. It can make you REALLY sick. Like poison you if you have too much. No one should EVER feed someone grain alcohol without telling them the risks.
New Hampshire Man
(36 posts)He'll be gone by lunchtime.
spooky3
(34,405 posts)lying about this and trying to accuse Dems of not informing them.
appalachiablue
(41,103 posts)- The Hill, "Grassley: Dems 'withheld information' on new Kavanaugh allegation,"- Sept. 23, 18. A spokesperson for Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa) on Sunday night said the panel will "attempt to evaluate" new allegations of sexual assault regarding Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh.
>The spokesperson in a statement slammed Democrats for "withholding information" regarding the allegations.
>"Yet again, Senate Democrats actively withheld information from the rest of the Committee only to drop information at politically opportune moments," the statement said, doubling down on his remarks that Democrats withheld the first allegation against Kavanaugh from Christine Blasey Ford, who went public last week.
The spokesperson said the Democrats appear to be "more interested in a political takedown" than "pursuing allegations through a bipartisan and professional" investigation. "Of course, we will attempt to evaluate these new claims,"..https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/grassley-dems-withheld-information-on-new-kavanaugh-allegation/ar-AAAyFBR
Scurrilous
(38,687 posts)Nitram
(22,765 posts)on the court. Kavanaugh earned his stripes during the investigation of Bill Clinton when he helped Ken Starr prepare his perjury trap by leaking information to Starr's committee. He gained more right wing credibility and dirty tricks experience during the Bush administration. He was groomed for this post, and the Rethugs want it so much they can taste it.
jmbar2
(4,863 posts)I am puzzled why his finances haven't been examined yet. Something is very hinky there.
Nitram
(22,765 posts)tip of the iceberg. Corporate money is the biggest source.
jmbar2
(4,863 posts)...or at least make an issue of it in this nomination.
This guy is corrupt to the bone, but also a smart ideologue willing to carry water for the Kochs, the xtian dominionists, and the international mob. This needs to be the new litmus test - is the friggin nominee corrupt or not.
WhiteTara
(29,692 posts)I'll post after publication.
The "man" behind the Koch economic theory/practice is James Buchanan. He was very obscure but his methodoligies founded George Mason University and his economic theory is called "Virginia Economics" -- he started at Virginia university, but the Kochs bought him his own college.
Nancy MacLean has a book called Democracy in Chains that I just reserved at the library; it is devastating.
FakeNoose
(32,581 posts)I found it riveting and terrifying at the same time.
So far I've found no evidence that links Kavanaugh to the group at George Mason U. though. It seems that BK has always been a toady and political hack who would do whatever he was asked, including a lot of dirty tricks. But right-wing ideology (libertarian economics) doesn't seem to be his thing.
I could be wrong though. He's clearly not SCOTUS bench material.
haele
(12,640 posts)Plantation Economies are very fragile, and require callous indifference and brutality from the top to be able to squeeze out profits for more than a generation.
Yes, in a plantation economy, "the elite" controls extensive tracts of land and properties, but without an equitable division of labor and resources, the work force necessary to sustain those lands and properties leaves for better employers unless they're forced to stay.
As it is, Plantation economies are basically oligarchies - Mafia without the violence between the gangs to control territory. The civilians who live and work under the fist of the Mafia suffer with little to no recourse, while the bosses rake in all the money.
Haele
PA Democrat
(13,225 posts)to discuss his book. Link below:
https://www.democraticunderground.com/1017507897
WhiteTara
(29,692 posts)and am bookmarking for finishing tomorrow. I ordered the book from the library.
samplegirl
(11,463 posts)Still In Wisconsin
(4,450 posts)I hope he not only is never placed on SCOTUS, but additionally gets removed from the bench and is disbarred. I hope his life is destroyed. I hope he goes to prison, and if he doesnt I want him to be harassed, hounded, and denied service wherever he goes. Fuck you Rapey Brett, sideways.
proglib217
(88 posts)WhiteTara
(29,692 posts)and it helps me get this crap off my mind.
Welcome to DU
dalton99a
(81,397 posts)Politicub
(12,165 posts)And an alleged perpetrator of sexual assault.
Predators like him do not act only once. There are usually a series of victims.
concreteblue
(626 posts)When do they get released?
ecstatic
(32,653 posts)They decided to add their 2 cents into Michelle Ramirez's story, and once again, they're doing trump's bidding. Have Russians bought the majority stock or something?
madaboutharry
(40,190 posts)ailsagirl
(22,885 posts)I'm happy he's very much involved with what's going on!!
Mia must be so proud