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Avenatti on credibility of his client...BOOM (Original Post) pbmus Sep 2018 OP
Kick! skylucy Sep 2018 #1
He's been pretty accurate on his predictions NewJeffCT Sep 2018 #2
Saving democracy iamateacher Sep 2018 #3
Kickin' with gusto! Faux pas Sep 2018 #4
"I do not bluff. I deliver" WeekiWater Sep 2018 #5
Basta is Italian for "enough", as in "enough of this bullshit already!" King_Klonopin Sep 2018 #6
Thank you. N/T WeekiWater Sep 2018 #7
But we still dont know whats on that DVD/CD he tweeted about months ago 7962 Sep 2018 #17
This is what bothers me about him onlyadream Sep 2018 #18
Me too. But i've said before, to fight a trump you need someone similar. 7962 Sep 2018 #20
We don't really know that they're exaggerations. Rorey Sep 2018 #23
+1, looking at his track record so far I don't remember one time he hasn't delivered something close uponit7771 Sep 2018 #31
Agreed. Haggis for Breakfast Sep 2018 #34
I hope so. onlyadream Sep 2018 #35
Specifically which exaggerations are you pointing towards? LanternWaste Sep 2018 #29
I'm not looking for a fight onlyadream Sep 2018 #33
He was asked not to divulge that info just yet donkeypoofed Sep 2018 #36
Italian word that means "enough." n/t Lucinda Sep 2018 #8
He won a court case against Trump in the past. He is the one who delivers the goods though. TheBlackAdder Sep 2018 #9
I retain a trial lawyer and one for settlements. WeekiWater Sep 2018 #10
I posted before that he's seen as a showboater, but he gets the needed attention. TheBlackAdder Sep 2018 #11
Avenatti delivers grantcart Sep 2018 #12
Thank you for the info and the welcome. N/T WeekiWater Sep 2018 #22
In what other case did Avenatti beat trump? A case before the current Daniels case? 7962 Sep 2018 #19
It was an idea theft lawsuit against The Apprentice. TheBlackAdder Sep 2018 #32
Welcome to DU, WeekiWater! calimary Sep 2018 #37
Thank you for the welcome. WeekiWater Sep 2018 #40
Did you leave Schumer out? Mr. Wet Noodle himself? When has HE ever stood up to McConnell? calimary Sep 2018 #44
Our "side" needs this guy. maddiemom Sep 2018 #41
I'm not sure if we "need" him. WeekiWater Sep 2018 #42
Avenatti will be on TV a lot soon. triron Sep 2018 #13
I miss him. lagomorph777 Sep 2018 #14
He is not a bullshitter world wide wally Sep 2018 #15
Again, from past experience, to beat a bully... txwhitedove Sep 2018 #16
A future Senator, VP or president. nt elmac Sep 2018 #21
I love this guy! karin_sj Sep 2018 #24
1500 rw radio stations in the state are blasting the accusers and defending kavenaugh certainot Sep 2018 #25
Remember his selfie with the DVD discs in a safe ? That 'delivery' still hasn't shown up. Trust Buster Sep 2018 #26
Very true. But as long as he's a thorn in trump's side, I'm fine with his warnings, whether Hoyt Sep 2018 #27
Then freakin' deliver, Avenatti... HopeAgain Sep 2018 #28
He kinda just ID'ed his client underpants Sep 2018 #30
He is great!! RandiFan1290 Sep 2018 #38
There is a certain amount of kindness to Avenatti grantcart Sep 2018 #39
"Troll & Bot Attacks Force Avenatti to Make His Twitter Private" Izzy Blue Sep 2018 #43

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
2. He's been pretty accurate on his predictions
Mon Sep 24, 2018, 01:12 PM
Sep 2018

he said Cohen would flip when many said he would take a bullet for Trump.

 

WeekiWater

(3,259 posts)
5. "I do not bluff. I deliver"
Mon Sep 24, 2018, 01:23 PM
Sep 2018

Comments like that are what have always bothered me about this guy. He has a client. A victim. Yet it's about him delivering. If his client decides to act, is is her who will be delivering.

Avenatti has been a serious thorn in Trumps side. I'm loving it. He is still a bull-dog alpha male with an ego the size of Texas.

After looking I see the "deliver" text predates the "Warning" text.

What is #Basta? Thanks.

King_Klonopin

(1,306 posts)
6. Basta is Italian for "enough", as in "enough of this bullshit already!"
Mon Sep 24, 2018, 01:31 PM
Sep 2018

Last edited Mon Sep 24, 2018, 02:26 PM - Edit history (1)

His comment is also a clear signal that he is not full of hot gas, like the folks who defend Kav.
His record so far supports that he delivers on substance.

 

7962

(11,841 posts)
17. But we still dont know whats on that DVD/CD he tweeted about months ago
Mon Sep 24, 2018, 03:05 PM
Sep 2018

That was supposed to be "coming soon" back then.

onlyadream

(2,166 posts)
18. This is what bothers me about him
Mon Sep 24, 2018, 03:10 PM
Sep 2018

I really want to believe him, but because of exaggerations, I'm inclined to think he's all hat and no cattle. I really hope I'm wrong.

 

7962

(11,841 posts)
20. Me too. But i've said before, to fight a trump you need someone similar.
Mon Sep 24, 2018, 03:12 PM
Sep 2018

Avenatti fits that bill.
And I still say he'll have his own TV show when all is said and done.

Rorey

(8,445 posts)
23. We don't really know that they're exaggerations.
Mon Sep 24, 2018, 03:37 PM
Sep 2018

I don't think he's exaggerating. I think it's more likely that he's methodically building an arsenal and holding things/information until needed.

"In due time."

uponit7771

(90,329 posts)
31. +1, looking at his track record so far I don't remember one time he hasn't delivered something close
Mon Sep 24, 2018, 04:23 PM
Sep 2018

... to what he stated he was going to deliver

Haggis for Breakfast

(6,831 posts)
34. Agreed.
Mon Sep 24, 2018, 10:06 PM
Sep 2018

He HAS delivered every time. Thing about crim law is that you have to be confident and aggressive to succeed. It doesn't mean that you must have an over-sized ego (Because that will get you into trouble sooner or later if that's all you've got.), or be a podium-pounder (That gets tedious after a while.), or a belligerent bully (which can get you in trouble with a judge AND the jury), but you have to believe in your ability to get the verdict.

In Avenatti's case, the man does his homework, crossing all those Ts and dotting those Is before he speaks publicly.

onlyadream

(2,166 posts)
35. I hope so.
Mon Sep 24, 2018, 10:07 PM
Sep 2018

The DVD has kind of been forgotten about. Maybe he has it, maybe he doesn’t. I guess time will tell.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
29. Specifically which exaggerations are you pointing towards?
Mon Sep 24, 2018, 04:09 PM
Sep 2018

(and please avoid the "I haven't seen it yet, so it must not be true" fallacies)

TheBlackAdder

(28,181 posts)
9. He won a court case against Trump in the past. He is the one who delivers the goods though.
Mon Sep 24, 2018, 01:43 PM
Sep 2018

.

90% of other attorneys would flounder or make a deal to close the case.

.

 

WeekiWater

(3,259 posts)
10. I retain a trial lawyer and one for settlements.
Mon Sep 24, 2018, 01:48 PM
Sep 2018

"Flounder" isn't really a good word for that aspect of the profession.

I haven't seen enough of Avenatti to know if he delivers the goods. I'm sure he is a high caliber attorney with a good record.

I don't think my comments about him above are off, even if yours are completely accurate.

TheBlackAdder

(28,181 posts)
11. I posted before that he's seen as a showboater, but he gets the needed attention.
Mon Sep 24, 2018, 01:52 PM
Sep 2018

.

He not only showboats to get seen, but makes claims that are later backed up.

I guess, if you're good at your craft, a highly inflated ego follows. It's that ego that gets the attention.

Unlike Trump's ego, which is all bluster and bullshit, Avannati's is based in fact.

.

grantcart

(53,061 posts)
12. Avenatti delivers
Mon Sep 24, 2018, 02:23 PM
Sep 2018

he is a legitimate top drawer litigator.

Mark Burnett and Donald Trump stole the idea of the "Apprentice" from a producer who had registered the concept and went to Burnett for funding. Burnett told him it didn't have a chance and took the idea to Trump.

from Avenatti's wiki:



settled an idea-theft lawsuit relating to the show The Apprentice and against producers Mark Burnett and Donald Trump,[31] and a $40 million embezzlement lawsuit involving KPMG.[9][32]

In 2007, Avenatti formed the law firm Eagan Avenatti, LLP (formerly known as Eagan O'Malley & Avenatti, LLP) with offices in Newport Beach, Los Angeles and San Francisco, California. He has since appeared on 60 Minutes three times in connection with cases he has handled.[3][33][34] Avenatti has also served as lead counsel on a number of historically large cases, including an April 2017 $454 million verdict after a jury trial in Federal Court in Los Angeles in a fraud case against Kimberly-Clark and Halyard Health,[35] later reduced to a $21.7 million verdict upon appeal,[36] an $80.5 million class-action settlement against Service Corporation International,[37] a $41 million jury verdict against KPMG,[38] and a $39 million malicious prosecution settlement.[39]



welcome to DU
 

7962

(11,841 posts)
19. In what other case did Avenatti beat trump? A case before the current Daniels case?
Mon Sep 24, 2018, 03:10 PM
Sep 2018

Where have I been?

TheBlackAdder

(28,181 posts)
32. It was an idea theft lawsuit against The Apprentice.
Mon Sep 24, 2018, 04:27 PM
Sep 2018

.

Avenatti later joined Greene Broillet & Wheeler, a Los Angeles boutique law firm. While there, he handled a number of high-profile cases, including a $10 million defamation case against Paris Hilton,[30] settled an idea-theft lawsuit relating to the show The Apprentice and against producers Mark Burnett and Donald Trump,[31] and a $40 million embezzlement lawsuit involving KPMG.

That's on his Wiki entry.

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calimary

(81,192 posts)
37. Welcome to DU, WeekiWater!
Tue Sep 25, 2018, 04:51 AM
Sep 2018

But he does deliver, gotta say.

I'd want him defending me if I ever needed a law shark.

I actually like the bravado. It's such a welcome change from our previously anemic Dems from even just a short while back. They were the gang that not only couldn't shoot straight, they didn't even bother to bring guns to the gunfight. Would rather be armed with feather dusters and wet noodles.

We need a fighter. One with some swagger. We've needed someone like him for a long time!

 

WeekiWater

(3,259 posts)
40. Thank you for the welcome.
Tue Sep 25, 2018, 10:16 AM
Sep 2018

He is not someone I could have representing me unless I found myself in a very specific set of circumstances. My past dealings with court had absolutely no need for publicity or a lightning rod. Just the opposite. He does appear to be good at what he does. He is also extremely good at self promotion.

I think Harry Reid and Pelosi are stronger fighters than you give them credit for. Oops.... Did I leave Schumer out? I wouldn't address the whole party and it's leadership using the words you did. I don't disagree with you in total when you say "feather dusters" and "wet noodles". Can I say Garland? That should have been war from day one.

calimary

(81,192 posts)
44. Did you leave Schumer out? Mr. Wet Noodle himself? When has HE ever stood up to McConnell?
Tue Sep 25, 2018, 03:17 PM
Sep 2018

Just recently he GAVE McConnell 15 free nominations to further pack the lower courts. GAVE 'EM OVER. In some purported "deal" for later on which you KNOW McConnell will never make good.

Pelosi IS a pretty shrewd manager and "cat-herder". She NEVER allowed any bill to come to a floor vote if she knew it might not have the votes to pass. John Boehner got rolled all the time. She really kept her caucus in line. HOWEVER, the big black mark on her ledger with me is "impeachment's off the table" during bush/cheney.

I'm tempted to guess I'm older than you are. I'm 65. I've seen YEARS of "we've gotta be nice." DECADES of it. I'm BEYOND tired of it and fed up with it. I'm just WAY FAR beyond it now. I love Michelle Obama like a sister who I feel she is, in a way. But I am NOT going along with the "when they go low, we go high." Because all that does is take you straight over a cliff. Certainly that's so in politics. Nice guys finish last. We've gotta STOP being so naive about the CONS. They're no good, and they're up to no good. We've responded and reacted, for years, and for years, we've gotten rolled. Stomped on. Elections stolen from us. We've been naive. "When they go low, we go high" only works when you've got two opposing entities that play by the same rules, and agree to play fair, and keep it all above board. Not possible when you have one political party grooming all kinds of nogoodniks, early, like in the College Republicans groups. People like kkkarl rove, and yes, Brett Kavanaugh. Learning from one major master of the dark arts, the late and NOT lamented Lee Atwater. Lee Atwater was the father of many of these operatives. He nurtured them and taught them and inspired them to all kinds of dirty tricks. He really fucked Michael Dukakis over. So thoroughly and disgracefully that, when he was dying of cancer, he asked Dukakis to come to his bedside so he could ask Dukakis for forgiveness. I guess feeling the cold breath of the Grim Reaper on his shoulders finally moved him to some level of change-of-heart.

If I'm gonna have to go to a proverbial political gunfight, I wouldn't want to bring any feather duster or butter knife. I'd opt for the 82nd Airborne. With nukes. AND Michael Avenatti!

maddiemom

(5,106 posts)
41. Our "side" needs this guy.
Tue Sep 25, 2018, 11:11 AM
Sep 2018

Someone with the ego of Trump, but also intelligent, and savvy enough to appeal to all members of the public with I.Q.s and E.Q.s above the temperature of warm tapioca

karin_sj

(808 posts)
24. I love this guy!
Mon Sep 24, 2018, 03:52 PM
Sep 2018

Thank goodness for Michael Avenatti! We need a smart, articulate and brave fighter like him on our side.

 

certainot

(9,090 posts)
25. 1500 rw radio stations in the state are blasting the accusers and defending kavenaugh
Mon Sep 24, 2018, 03:59 PM
Sep 2018

while ignoring the calls for FBI investigation. they all follow the limbaugh lead, who spent 4 days last week attacking dr ford and this morning attacking new accusers, and at least 260 of the 600 limbaugh stations depend on 88 major university sports for attracting advertisers

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
27. Very true. But as long as he's a thorn in trump's side, I'm fine with his warnings, whether
Mon Sep 24, 2018, 04:06 PM
Sep 2018

bluffs or not.

HopeAgain

(4,407 posts)
28. Then freakin' deliver, Avenatti...
Mon Sep 24, 2018, 04:07 PM
Sep 2018

He has done this before with little to show. I don't trust his penchant for drama to make things all about him.

underpants

(182,734 posts)
30. He kinda just ID'ed his client
Mon Sep 24, 2018, 04:13 PM
Sep 2018

That's pretty a specifically job history for a female who was somewhere in Kavanaugh's vicinity from high school through law school. People in that realm can probably figure out who it is.

grantcart

(53,061 posts)
39. There is a certain amount of kindness to Avenatti
Tue Sep 25, 2018, 05:50 AM
Sep 2018

I know that I may be the only one to see it, but he foreshadows his next punch so that his opponents can retreat and save face.

With Cohen he was very specific about other women and more tapes.

He really isn't trying to get to surprise them he's giving them a chance to get out of the way of the car speeding at them.

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