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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsMark Judge didn't just OBSERVE. He jumped on her, too. His second drunken attempt to join in
resulted in the three of them tumbling to the floor, and Blasey's escape.
Most accounts I've seen underplay his involvement. If this happened he wouldn't only be a witness. He was there when Blasey got pushed into the bedroom, and he tried to jump on her, too.
If he's called to testify he'll probably plead the 5th.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/california-professor-writer-of-confidential-brett-kavanaugh-letter-speaks-out-about-her-allegation-of-sexual-assault/2018/09/16/46982194-b846-11e8-94eb-3bd52dfe917b_story.html?utm_term=.f598f5cbef03
She alleges that Kavanaugh who played football and basketball at Georgetown Prep held her down with the weight of his body and fumbled with her clothes, seemingly hindered by his intoxication. Judge stood across the room, she said, and both boys were laughing maniacally. She said she yelled, hoping that someone downstairs would hear her over the music, and Kavanaugh clapped his hand over her mouth to silence her.
At one point, she said, Judge jumped on top of them, and she tried unsuccessfully to wriggle free. Then Judge jumped on them again, toppling them, and she broke away, she said.
MrsCoffee
(5,801 posts)Saying that him knocking them to the floor was an attempt to get Kavanaugh to stop.
pnwmom
(108,959 posts)That's why Brett wrote "Devil's triangle" in his yearbook.
geardaddy
(24,926 posts)Ms. Toad
(33,999 posts)https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=11165757
geardaddy
(24,926 posts)empedocles
(15,751 posts)pnwmom
(108,959 posts)She alleges that Kavanaugh who played football and basketball at Georgetown Prep held her down with the weight of his body and fumbled with her clothes, seemingly hindered by his intoxication. Judge stood across the room, she said, and both boys were laughing maniacally. She said she yelled, hoping that someone downstairs would hear her over the music, and Kavanaugh clapped his hand over her mouth to silence her.
At one point, she said, Judge jumped on top of them, and she tried unsuccessfully to wriggle free. Then Judge jumped on them again, toppling them, and she broke away, she said.
When someone tells you what they are, believe them the first time. .... Maya Angelou.
JaneQPublic
(7,113 posts)See BK's high school yearbook for a reference.
Leghorn21
(13,523 posts)After seeing Judges denial, Elizabeth Rasor, who met Judge at Catholic University and was in a relationship with him for about three years, said that she felt morally obligated to challenge his account that no horseplay took place at Georgetown Prep with women. Rasor stressed that under normal circumstances, I wouldnt reveal information that was told in confidence, but, she said, I cant stand by and watch him lie. In an interview with The New Yorker, she said, Mark told me a very different story. Rasor recalled that Judge had told her ashamedly of an incident that involved him and other boys taking turns having sex with a drunk woman. Rasor said that Judge seemed to regard it as fully consensual. She said that Judge did not name others involved in the incident, and she has no knowledge that Kavanaugh participated. But Rasor was disturbed by the story and noted that it undercut Judges protestations about the sexual innocence of Georgetown Prep. (Barbara Van Gelder, an attorney for Judge, said that he categorically denies the account related by Rasor. Van Gelder said that Judge had no further comment.)
Another woman who attended high school in the nineteen-eighties in Montgomery County, Maryland, where Georgetown Prep is located, also refuted Judges account of the social scene at the time, sending a letter to Fords lawyers saying that she had witnessed boys at parties that included Georgetown Prep students engaging in sexual misconduct. In an interview, the woman, who asked to have her name withheld for fear of political retribution, recalled that male students would get a female student blind drunk on what they called jungle juicegrain alcohol mixed with Hawaiian Punchthen try to take advantage of her. It was disgusting, she said. They treated women like meat.
https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/senate-democrats-investigate-a-new-allegation-of-sexual-misconduct-from-the-supreme-court-nominee-brett-kavanaughs-college-years-deborah-ramirez/amp?__twitter_impression=true
Plus, Avenattis hot on his trail, and I do mean HOT!!
lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)Their lives are now ruined. Couldn't have happened to nicer guys.
Leghorn21
(13,523 posts)Mark Judge. He is likely the most important witness in the
process and yet they are attempting to hide his testimony
and prevent the truth from emerging. He should be subpoenaed
to testify NOW so the truth can be known.
Link to tweet
lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)Depose them, Avenatti! I think the strategy is already established; sue them for libel because they are lying about Dr. Ford.
pnwmom
(108,959 posts)Leghorn21
(13,523 posts)mentions Judge:
"I have one motivation in coming forward to tell the truth about what Mr. Kavanaugh and his friend Mark Judge did to me . . . my fear will not hold me back from testifying and you will be provided with answers to all of your questions."
Dr. Fords letter:
https://mobile.twitter.com/NBCNews/status/1044305572328345600/photo/1
pnwmom
(108,959 posts)Raster
(20,998 posts)...he knows he's just as much at fault.
Nevilledog
(51,023 posts)Two rapes at once.
ooky
(8,908 posts)of Professor Ford's allegations. By saying it didn't happen and he wouldn't testify he made himself look guilty right away.
erronis
(15,185 posts)their own peccadilloes to hide. (A peccadillo is not a small mushroom-shaped dick, but it likely is in their cases.)
Boys will be boys. Fine boys' school educations followed by some fun frat events while in college.
We may not get total understanding of the crimes of these people (the congress-critters/pResidents) right now. But maybe the spotlight of history will shine a whole lot brighter on the new crop of SCOTUS, presidential, and congressional nominees.
BigmanPigman
(51,567 posts)procon
(15,805 posts)Ms. Toad
(33,999 posts)At least that's what a thread here over the weekend suggested.
LisaL
(44,972 posts)anything like this taking place.