For FUCK'S SAKE GLENN.

[JHan]

NO GLENN.

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So Obama rigged the French Elections, you fucking moron?

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[Scurrilous]

1. Glenn Greenwald - poster boy for Obama Derangement Syndrome.

[JHan]

3. He can't help it. Obama wasn't a factor in the French Elections.

Macron won handily because the French decided they needed to come together to defeat Le Penn.

[Cha]

13. Exactly, Scurrilous.. as I alluded to in my post below..

I'm so old I remember when he called us "Obama bots" when President Obama was just starting his 1st term.. GG has been on my shite list ever since.

And, I and We Obots were proven right!

[Scurrilous]

23. "And, I and We Obots were proven right!"

Yep!

[Haggis for Breakfast]

2. What is he smoking ?

Is he getting CIA stash ?

[JHan]

4. his fave home right now is Tucker Carlson's show. Tells me all I need to know.

[Haggis for Breakfast]

11. I swear

Tucker Carlson always looks like has been constipated for a month.

[JHan]

22. this cracked me up..

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[betsuni]

27. LOL

[lunatica]

45. Did someone punch Tucker square in the middle of his face?

Every picture of him lately shows that exact same expression.

[JHan]

46. he always looks like he's confused by rain.

[JI7]

5. too much of ther so called left is full of antisemitism and conspiracy theory

that's why they don't do so well.

[JHan]

7. yep, the anti semitism is very there.

[betsuni]

6. Hillary taught Obama how to rig elections, obviously. GIVE HILLARY CREDIT!!!!

(Just in case: )

[JHan]

8. lol I keep promising myself to not get trolled by Glenn.

sigh.

[betsuni]

12. It's pretty irresistible, he's a professional.

I'm glad he isn't on TV anymore, at least I never see him on Real Time or news shows. He talks like he writes: fast-moving avalanche of words that never adds up to anything.

[Cha]

15. lol.. yeah you'll need that.. 'cause you never know.

[betsuni]

18. There WAY too many nuts rolling around still repeating that conspiracy theory.

[NastyRiffraff]

41. I saw that on Google

and it made me happy. Good for Google!

[Cha]

44. Yes, Riff! Who doesn't use "google" and it's

ultra important.. especially for Dems!

[Demonaut]

9. Glen who??

[Cha]

10. What's Worth remembering is that Greenwald is a

putin apologist and all around nasty RF, Asshole who is insanely jealous of President Obama.

So what's the real reason Macron's polls are low? Do you know, JH? Merci.

[Haggis for Breakfast]

14. You expect rationalism from the French ?

Sacre Blue, mon dieu.

Some think that he is - sound familiar ? - only president for the rich and the elite. The word "arrogant" pops up in a lot of news reports. He has undertaken a sizeable number of reforms, which is always going to be unpopular with some segment of the population.

[Cha]

16. I don't know the French.. nice of them to

give greenwald a reason to blame it on Obama, though!

Yes, it does vaguely familiar.. Thanks, Haggis

[Haggis for Breakfast]

20. De rien, Cha.

[George II]

38. I think one of the reasons polls are low for ANY French politician is that the electorate...

....and those polled are so fractured. France is not like here, where there is essentially one or the other, there are always five or six choices. For example, if there are five to choose from and they're all equally divided, that means the "top" choice in the poll gets only 20%.

I haven't seen the actual poll he's referring to, but no doubt that's part of the reason.

[Cha]

43. Thanks, George!

[Azathoth]

17. Fuck Glenn Greenwald

That is all.

[Haggis for Breakfast]

21. No. Not even with a dildo !!

It's past my bed-time, Sorry.

[shanny]

19. we'd never do that

[JI7]

24. who is we ? Obama didn't do it . that's a fact

[JHan]

25. Go on...

[betsuni]

28. "we"?

[SidDithers]

51. ...

Glenn is a true blue green, eh?

Sid

[Farmer-Rick]

26. Lets get our facts straight Macron is a conservative by French standards

He taxed pensions in order to give a tax cut to businesses. It's interesting that pensioners voted for him by a 2 to 1 margin and now he has increased their taxes. He has increased tution and had students out protesting. He's scrapped a wealth tax that he ran on and instead is talking about cutting corporate taxes.

He talked like a liberal and turned out to be a pro corporate stooge. No wonder he gets along so well with Trump.

But I still think Greenwald is an idiot because he claims Russia did not help push the election to Trump.

Funny how Greenwald can see some of the facts but is so absolutely blind to others.

[JHan]

29. I'm no fan of Macron, but Glenn's analysis is really way off:

Glenn is more ideologue than an objective journalist. He views are like a template he applies to every situation, which means he gets things wrong.

Macron's unpopularity one year in is not surprising for a French President. As Haggis noted a few replies up, the French are peculiar in that way. I'm sure Glenn doesn't understand these idiosyncracies, so his analysis is shallow. Glenn wants to portray Macron as a French version of either Clinton or Obama to justify right-wing backlash and his narratives about the U.S. election but France is France. The U.S is the U.S. Marine le Pen isn't an aquatic writing instrument which was discovered in 2017 but part of a movement which has existed in France for decades. Right now, in social democracies with low-income inequality and universal healthcare, neo-fascism is on the rise. Glenn will have his own explanations as to why that's the case but we can bet dollars to donuts he won't touch on the thorny issue of Cultural Anxiety because that would mean he'd have to consider identity politics and Glenn can't have that.

I'm uncomfortable with the way Glenn describes Macron's policies: It's not neo-liberalism it's more classic liberalism. While neo-liberalism shares a lot in common with classic liberalism, a neo-liberal would not push protectionism in this way When Macron was Minister of the Economy he annoyed leftists, so it's no surprise his policies are untenable for them. He doesn't seem interested in social issues, he sometimes comes across as socially conservative because of this disinterest and this has made Liberals wary of him.

Hulot's resignation, the Bayrou funding scandal and the Benalla affair also hurt Macron. His "jupiterian" style of leadership isn't helping him either, comparing your leadership style to that of a God isn't a good look.

Glenn's worldview won't grasp such complexities so the best he can come up with is to use Macron's unpopularity as a proxy to attack Liberals in the west.

[ismnotwasm]

30. I hate that motherfucker

[Tom Rinaldo]

31. An observation about the OP commentary

This is not in defense of Glenn. I think we have to be accurate in our political language, especially under current conditions. The accusation was that Obama interfered in the election. Whatever the weakness of that argument, it still is not the same as saying that Obama rigged the election. Those claims are not identical. It is how Trump uses language to conflate terms to a higher incendiary level. No one has claimed that Obama rigged any election, except perhaps Trump.

[JHan]

32. Knowing Glenn, that's the insinuation he's making : "interfered" is the same as rigged in this case.

That's the connection he wants to make to his audience. His argument is that the U.S "interferes", so the Russians "interfered" too, making a false equivocation. Because the Russians did more than "Interfere", they got into our electoral systems.

[rogue emissary]

52. It's also the same language Putin uses to describe Hillary.

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The simple fact that she spoke out against him. Was enough for Putin to say her calling for fair elections U.S. "interference".

[JHan]

54. Very much so and we now know of the Manafort linked smear campaign..

because she dared to comment on electoral procedure in Russia. It's a common thing to hear among some "America interfered in Ukraine so America can't complain when Russia "Interferes" in America"


I wouldn't have cause for complaint if it was only Glenn saying this nonsense, but the intercept has been churning out the garbage too.

[rogue emissary]

55. I hate that version of both sidesism, nonsense.

[MineralMan]

33. At this point, I wonder why we're paying any attention to Greenwald

at all. He is not our friend, and never has been. He is not a progressive, either. He is a spoiler, and that is his schtick.

Enough of Glenn Greenwald!

[JHan]

34. I think the more people like Bannon and Greenwald are exposed, the better.

Strongly held beliefs don't equal intelligence or insight - a mistake often made by publications like *The New Yorker which had a long article about him recently. As the Mueller investigation heats up, people like Greenwald are going to continue to tell us that what we're seeing is not what we're seeing, what we're hearing is not what we're hearing. I usually ignore him, but I have no problem exposing him for the fraud he is.

[Eliot Rosewater]

36. Of course, and when these vile filthy piles of human excrement speak we need to SHOVE

their words back DOWN their fucking throats.

But really the time for talk is over.

The GOP is working with, side by side, PUTIN and working to destroy America. This is a war.

[Cha]

42. Well, you could avoid a thread exposing Greenwald for

what he is if it bothers you so much.

JHan gave excellent reasons why she decided to call him out. I agree.

[Gothmog]

49. Few people now pay attention to Greenwald

He is clearly not a journalist and clearly works for Russa

[George II]

35. Greenwald is a petty, bitter person, most likely because his BFF, Assange, is.....

....confined to the Ecuador Embassy, at least for a little while longer.

[struggle4progress]

37. GG is a rightwing libertarian and no friend of progressives

[JHan]

40. Yup. Why he has any credibility at all boggles my mind.

[budkin]

39. So sick of that asshole

I mean seriously...

[Gothmog]

47. I stopped paying attention to Greenwald a long time ago

This idiot works for the Russians and is not a journalist

[SidDithers]

48. To think he was a hero to so many who used to post here...

Sid

[sheshe2]

53. I remember it well.

Glenn and Ed.

[Blue_Tires]

50. Greenwald's gonna Greenwald...

I'm still wondering how he got a pass for accusing Obama of staging a coup in Brazil...