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Washington (CNN)A woman who signed a letter supporting Brett Kavanaugh after he was accused of sexual assault earlier this month called revelations from his high school yearbook that showed he and his friends reportedly boasted about their supposed conquests with her "hurtful," The New York Times reported Monday.
Renate Schroeder Dolphin joined 64 other women this month who signed a letter to the Senate Judiciary Committee saying they knew the Supreme Court nominee during their high school years and that "he has behaved honorably and treated women with respect."
However, Kavanaugh included "Renate Alumnius" as an entry in his high school yearbook page, and two of Kavanaugh's classmates told the Times the mentions of "Renate" were part of the high school football players' unsubstantiated boasting about their conquests.
When Dolphin, who attended a nearby Catholic girls' school and was then known as Renate Schroeder, signed the September 14 letter, the Times reports, she wasn't aware of the "Renate" yearbook references about herself on the pages of Kavanaugh and his football teammates.
https://www.cnn.com/2018/09/24/politics/new-york-times-kavanaugh-renate-high-school-yearbook/index.html
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)Preemptively imply guilt by itself? Sign of a guilty conscience.
Poor Renate. How humiliating.
Cracklin Charlie
(12,904 posts)These guys are so gross. They give you 1000 different ways to dislike them.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)I was far from perfect or sheltered but even as a high school student I knew that casual misogyny was messed up.
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)In high school, even though I was an academic nerd, I knew about the girls that had the reputations for being easy lays. The stuff about them could have been all lies, but how could I tell.
obamanut2012
(26,067 posts)pangaia
(24,324 posts)madaboutharry
(40,204 posts)is a good indication that Kavanaugh does not have respect for girls and women.
Achilleaze
(15,543 posts)How dare they posture themselves as somehow "morally superior" when they submissively & and degenerately follow the lead of Dirty Donny* their republican "family values" roles model.
* aka republican Draft-Dodger-in-Chief
Gothmog
(145,107 posts)DesertRat
(27,995 posts)My high school didnt allow this disgusting crap to be printed. The culture at Georgetown Prep must have been very friendly to this kind of misogyny.
Check out the quote on Kavanaugh's friend's yearbook page: Certain women should be struck regularly, like gongs.
bucolic_frolic
(43,123 posts)She was a fetish in Conservative Schools. So either they were pervy, or something was actually going on. Yes, I could see why she would be quite perturbed by such reference.
BootinUp
(47,139 posts)RainCaster
(10,864 posts)30 years later, she stuck her neck out for a Republican POS that she undoubtedly knew was a POS because a tiger never changes its stripes. Now she gets to bare the shame of standing up for such a slimeball. Yes, if she was my daughter I'd be pissed, but she's not, so I just smile.
bucolic_frolic
(43,123 posts)in denial when she signed the letter, or approached by others she knew and went along with it, and was simply demure in her acceptance. She may have known but she may not have known, or been dimly aware. Her true inner workings on this matter likely will never be known to the public.
mercuryblues
(14,530 posts)slightly less contempt than others. I get the vibe that she knew, but as long as it was about other females, she didn't care.
After she stood up for him, she found out kav & Co. included her in their slut naming/shaming fest and she found her moral backbone.
aggiesal
(8,910 posts)after reading this paragraph,
and this paragraph,
It's hard for me to understand why Renate Schroeder Dolphin would have signed a letter
stating, "he (Kavanaugh-ty) has behaved honorably and treated women with respect.",
when she knew just the opposite.
Can anyone explain that?
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)She was either blinded by her own rightwing persona, or she got born again into delusion. Either way, she seems to have made herself a victim, sort of hard to feel for her.
gratuitous
(82,849 posts)So it's entirely possible that Ms. Dolphin had no idea that she was the sniggering punchline for a bunch of snotty prep school boys.* She may have signed the letter as a defender of her tribe. Because her statement about the Renate Alumni ends with a dismissive "that's all I'm gonna say," I tend to think that's the case; she doesn't want to get back into the elite high school mentality.
*On the other hand, she may have been fully aware of it because she was a very promiscuous high schooler who never thought her past would catch up to her in quite such a public way.
BumRushDaShow
(128,801 posts)So she knew FULL well.
IMHO, and obviously I may be wrong too, but I expect some of this from her and the others, may have been more of the school of thought of - "Hey, wow. I know a (future) Supreme Court Justice. Isn't that cool?". It would be a great bragging point to other friends, work colleagues, and their neighbors.
More_Cowbell
(2,190 posts)Of ringleader students who bragged about sexual conquests, real or imagined, to the point of memorializing it in a yearbook that everyone saw. You'd think that that alone would have made her hesitate to sign.
BumRushDaShow
(128,801 posts)which is why I speculated that it may have partly been done for future bragging purposes, assuming none of the most egregious behavior would be outed and ridiculed and the confirmation outcome would pretty much be a success.
BumRushDaShow
(128,801 posts)If it had been anyone else, they would have called it that and underscored that it was "illegal". For the types of things they apparently did, when blacks did such, it was called "wilding" and the media made sure they were drowning the readers/viewers/listeners in that term. But when it's white boys, it's called "youthful indiscretions".
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)Depending on the race of miscreants. If a Black teen routinely got passout drunk, he would have a record a foot long and would not have a prayer of getting into Yale, or even into a welding school.
Grins
(7,205 posts)I went to a public high school (and a Jesuit university after) and I KNOW that the faculty yearbook advisers and the school administrators scoured the pre-print of the entire book before it went to the printers.
Not know what "FFFFFFFourth of July" meant? - they'd ask. And when they found out, the yearbook editor and every person associated with that term would be standing tall in front of the Principle. Grilled, reamed, and their parent's notified.
"Keg City Club"? "100 Kegs or Bust"? The merest hint of alcohol in any form? Same! And demand to know every member of that "club". And grill them, too.
"Boofing? The Devils Triangle? If they didn't know what those terms meant - they'd sure as hell ask and find out before it ever went to print.
I also remember when those books were handed out at the end of the year the faculty would tell the student body to watch out what they write in those books because that will follow you for years and you never know who is going to see them. (Boy, were they ever right on that one!) The rule: Don't write anything you wouldn't want your mother to read.
And if you got caught with that yearbook when you should have been doing something else, they would confiscate your yearbook and deliver it to the Principal or Assistant Principal - who would read it! Page by page; every word before you got it back. You write something stew-pud in someone else's book, both would be in front of the Principal.
So where was the Georgetown Prep faculty and administration? How did this shit ever get to print?
question everything
(47,465 posts)some ready to become priests for forbidden desires and, either way: "what happened there stayed there."
FakeNoose
(32,626 posts)... like when seniors sign each other's year books and write things like "Stay as cool as you are!" and "Remember all the great times."
But these guys were particularly mean (and pervy) so they wrote things that would come back to haunt them years later.
ProfessorPlum
(11,254 posts)for everyone to read. You can find images of it floating around the webs.
hexola
(4,835 posts)Love to see what his buddies wrote in his book!
ProfessorPlum
(11,254 posts)Unless, maybe his friends congratulated him on remaining a virgin all through high school, and how great it was to have such a chaste friend.
ha ha ha
hexola
(4,835 posts)They seemed to have botched all the background checks
meadowlander
(4,394 posts)mercuryblues
(14,530 posts)Kavanaugh will say he Can't find it, and pull out his calendar from 1983 to prove he wasn't at that party.
czarjak
(11,266 posts)mainstreetonce
(4,178 posts)He always treated women with respect.
There is much printed evidence to refute that.
grantcart
(53,061 posts)Initech
(100,061 posts)Hekate
(90,637 posts)I remember some sniggering among my male friends our senior year. I Was so innocent I missed half of what was said, but I sure got what was implied and it pissed me off royally. "She did this all by herself?!" I demanded to know.
What the hell is wrong with those blaming Renate for what a bunch of pimply dirty-minded boys put in their year books? Really? That school sounds like Lord of the Flies with blazers and high tuition.