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GOP Message To Women. YOU DO NOT HAVE THE RIGHT TO SAY NO TO SEX. Period. (Original Post) TheMastersNemesis Sep 2018 OP
And if you get pregnant in the process, YOU MUST carry that pregnancy to term. calimary Sep 2018 #1
And don't forget, there's a chance the rapist will have visitation rights. Lars39 Sep 2018 #5
Yep. That's exactly it. calimary Sep 2018 #8
Excellent but depressing summary. Lars39 Sep 2018 #9
I appreciate that, Lars39. How do men think it feels to be female right now? calimary Sep 2018 #11
I am a female. :-) ... Lars39 Sep 2018 #12
That sounds about right, my friend. calimary Sep 2018 #15
There are also stories of high profile men forcing a mistress to have an abortion alphafemale Sep 2018 #10
This is what happens when one side doesn't vote as faithfully as the other side does. calimary Sep 2018 #18
Group of Predators n/t blue cat Sep 2018 #2
Or yes, for that matter. TDale313 Sep 2018 #3
Nah. You can still say "no", it just does not matter. Freethinker65 Sep 2018 #4
And if a girl gets within a mile of a drinking game, hey, she was drunk and fair game for any man Hekate Sep 2018 #6
trump and the kgop knowingly duforsure Sep 2018 #7
If this goes the way Trump gave the green light to the racists - we're in for it eleny Sep 2018 #13
Isn't this the entire premise to 'Hand Maiden's Tale'? n/t Yavin4 Sep 2018 #14
They just want women to be the baby makers and that's about it. Initech Sep 2018 #16
Woman as property. Woman as container. Woman as incubator. calimary Sep 2018 #19
K&R smirkymonkey Sep 2018 #17
It's The Handmaiden's Tale iamateacher Sep 2018 #20

calimary

(81,179 posts)
1. And if you get pregnant in the process, YOU MUST carry that pregnancy to term.
Tue Sep 25, 2018, 04:36 PM
Sep 2018

You have NO say in it, whatsoever. Besides, it's YOUR fault anyway.

In such a scenario, if there's a pregnancy carried to term, that grants the perpetrator a LIFETIME of domination over you.

calimary

(81,179 posts)
8. Yep. That's exactly it.
Tue Sep 25, 2018, 06:32 PM
Sep 2018

She'd be shackled to her rapist for the rest of their lives. There could indeed be a chance - a strong chance - that the rapist would not only demand visitation rights, but some form of custody. And she'd be battling with him in the courts, in the social services, the works. It would be non-stop anguish.

Or the rapist could just disappear, and that STILL would leave her fully obligated to that child, unless she decides to put the baby up for adoption. Even then, though, the hurt, the degrading, the shaming, the psychological ramifications, the regret, the constant questioning of herself - DID SHE really bring this on? IS she the victim, or the predator? Yep, THAT'S what she'd face from judgmental outside observers everywhere. And heaven forbid she would need to seek public assistance. When these so-called "right to life" people also want their taxes cut, so they're more than happy to push for cuts in social services to needy people, families, and single heads-of-household.

This just sucks on SO MANY levels.

calimary

(81,179 posts)
11. I appreciate that, Lars39. How do men think it feels to be female right now?
Tue Sep 25, 2018, 10:06 PM
Sep 2018

Last edited Tue Sep 25, 2018, 11:27 PM - Edit history (2)

Woman as property.

Worse, woman as container.

To the CON-world, that's seems to be pretty much the prevailing opinion.

And I say that as a mother of two. But I am NOT merely a container. And that's not my sole purpose for being on earth. Evidently, there are many men who would disagree. Including the "just lie back and enjoy it!" crowd.




On edit - adjusting subject line. Sometimes I like to thank posters by name.

Lars39

(26,108 posts)
12. I am a female. :-) ...
Tue Sep 25, 2018, 10:22 PM
Sep 2018

I’ve described it before as them thinking of us as interchangeable parts for their genitalia...like Legos.

 

alphafemale

(18,497 posts)
10. There are also stories of high profile men forcing a mistress to have an abortion
Tue Sep 25, 2018, 06:39 PM
Sep 2018

So long as it is against the woman's choice they are in favor of it.

Either way of taking away a woman's choice is horrific.

calimary

(81,179 posts)
18. This is what happens when one side doesn't vote as faithfully as the other side does.
Wed Sep 26, 2018, 12:43 AM
Sep 2018

We ALL have to vote! Seriously! Regularly and with relentless and unwavering dedication! We can't let a SINGLE opportunity go by! EVERY time there's an election, even if it seems inconsequential! Because today's County Commissioner could well be governor in ten years. And from governor, who knows how high one could climb? And EVERY election, there are issues to decide that affect LOTS of your fellow citizens, neighbors, friends, family, even you yourself.

Too busy to vote? It wasn't that important? Didn't feel like it? Didn't mark it on your calendar so you could arrange to go vote? You couldn't even send in an absentee ballot in advance, while you still had some time? I'm sorry, but fuck you!
People deciding that they're too pure and principled to vote for the lesser of two evils, are out of their freakin' minds!
People yowling that "both sides are the same!" and "there's no use, my vote won't matter" have their heads up their asses.

They're the same people who I bet will turn around one fine day and freak out at the way things are going, the backwards and upside down direction our country is lurching into, and what's been allowed to happen.

Like what we're living through right now, for example.

Don't let that be YOU. Don't let that be YOUR friends, family members, neighbors, colleagues.

VOTE, Dammit!

duforsure

(11,885 posts)
7. trump and the kgop knowingly
Tue Sep 25, 2018, 05:32 PM
Sep 2018

Are promoting a possible gang rapist, serial lying , corrupt judge because he'll protect trump , putin and the kgop, and he wants to claim the Democrats are pulling a con on the American people? Only a trump would be that stupid to try to call others that, and call others con artists. Nominating someone so flawed shows how little he cares about women , and justice, and the truth, then claiming he's such a great person only to discover they're hiding his past. and for good reasons. He will be outed for everything anyway and removed.

calimary

(81,179 posts)
19. Woman as property. Woman as container. Woman as incubator.
Wed Sep 26, 2018, 12:44 AM
Sep 2018

I'm sorry, but I think I have a little bit more to contribute than that. This woman is most assuredly a LOT more than that. As is every other woman I know or heard tell of.

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