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DiFi staring down Murkowski (Original Post) Recursion Sep 2018 OP
Here's What She's Saying LandOfHopeAndDreams Sep 2018 #1
Murkowski actually seems to have a brain, and a conscience. shanny Sep 2018 #2
I suspect Murkowski is a "no" already... regnaD kciN Sep 2018 #6
I'm leaning that way too shanny Sep 2018 #25
if there are 50 R Yes votes...then at least 3 Dems will vote yes as well lapfog_1 Sep 2018 #28
I am not a fan of that strategy, shanny Sep 2018 #33
i agree Hermit-The-Prog Sep 2018 #47
I don't think conventional wisdom knows how pissed off onecaliberal Sep 2018 #48
Absolutely. shanny Sep 2018 #50
Flake will be a "no" too. nt Duppers Sep 2018 #36
They dont need Collins quakerboy Sep 2018 #42
Message auto-removed Name removed Sep 2018 #3
reminds me of Lyndon Johnson wasupaloopa Sep 2018 #4
Yeah, I was just thinking that (nt) Recursion Sep 2018 #7
Yup! Stinky The Clown Sep 2018 #13
That's right. There's a similar photo of LBJ cornering someone just like that. brush Sep 2018 #18
Robert Kennedy maybe? dewsgirl Sep 2018 #38
Sen. Murkowski looks to be truly suffering. madaboutharry Sep 2018 #5
decent leader wouldn't have put her in this position rurallib Sep 2018 #10
This shouldn't be a hard vote for her Thrill Sep 2018 #49
But they're promising me so much pork for Alaska! eleny Sep 2018 #8
Channeling LBJ Kaleva Sep 2018 #9
LBJ's face would be about 12 inches closer to Murkowski's. Sneederbunk Sep 2018 #12
Her spine looks fine to me. betsuni Sep 2018 #11
My thought. Love this pic. One's righteous and one's not. Hortensis Sep 2018 #14
Yup. The body language there speaks volumes (nt) Recursion Sep 2018 #19
She looks great for being in her 80's gabeana Sep 2018 #15
Maybe customerserviceguy Sep 2018 #45
Off topic but DiFi looks good. She appears to me to have lost some riversedge Sep 2018 #16
Didn't she have a health scare last year? Recursion Sep 2018 #22
thats badass jcgoldie Sep 2018 #17
She trying to hold back tears? Hah! LiberalFighter Sep 2018 #20
Whatever you're selling, Lisa gratuitous Sep 2018 #21
Rachel showed this pic on her show--said they hugged and then walked away flibbitygiblets Sep 2018 #23
Big DiFi Energy. JHan Sep 2018 #24
Love it...keep it up DiFi. iluvtennis Sep 2018 #26
DiFi needs to poke her finger in Murkowski's sternum! democratisphere Sep 2018 #27
I Don't Think That DiFi Is Pressuring LiMu Leith Sep 2018 #29
it is possible that murkowski respect difi AlexSFCA Sep 2018 #32
I agree. StatGirl Sep 2018 #37
WOW what a great photo njhoneybadger Sep 2018 #30
And people think she's too "old"? GMAFB!!!!!! George II Sep 2018 #31
Murkowski "I have to vote yes, I sold my sole" DiFi "You are worthless and week." StTimofEdenRoc Sep 2018 #34
Murkowski can actually spell, and Feinstein is anything but WEAK. In fact a few folks owe her an still_one Sep 2018 #35
Thank you, for pointing out my spelling error, but but you need to learn about punctuation. StTimofEdenRoc Sep 2018 #41
I appreciate the clarification, i wasn't sure. Thanks still_one Sep 2018 #44
Use a colon (:) for that purpose. customerserviceguy Sep 2018 #46
Huh? MontanaMama Sep 2018 #39
oh if I have to explain it I obviously failed .... StTimofEdenRoc Sep 2018 #40
discussed with her? ChubbyStar Sep 2018 #43

regnaD kciN

(26,044 posts)
6. I suspect Murkowski is a "no" already...
Wed Sep 26, 2018, 08:25 PM
Sep 2018

...but it won’t matter, because Collins will vote to confirm and Pence will break the tie.

lapfog_1

(29,193 posts)
28. if there are 50 R Yes votes...then at least 3 Dems will vote yes as well
Wed Sep 26, 2018, 10:59 PM
Sep 2018

All 3 are in tight races.

While it will make me sad, it really doesn't matter because Pence gets the tie vote so the rapist will be on the court.

If this helps the 3 Dems win their seats (I personally think it loses them more Democratic votes than wins them support from "fence sitters, but that's just me)...

 

shanny

(6,709 posts)
33. I am not a fan of that strategy,
Wed Sep 26, 2018, 11:10 PM
Sep 2018

although it is the conventional wisdom that it helps protect Ds in red states. I don't think it earns many R votes and I'm sure it depresses D enthusiasm. My two cents.

quakerboy

(13,917 posts)
42. They dont need Collins
Thu Sep 27, 2018, 12:17 AM
Sep 2018

They may not even want Collins. Even if both Collins and Murkowski sit it out, its 49-49. Pence makes it 50 for the win.

That's my prediction on how this goes. Both of them stay home or abstain, Thus preserving their ability to say they didn't vote for him in left leaning crowds, but also their ability to claim they didnt vote against trump for the republican crowds. Pence steps in to provide the tie breaker. Mueller stays true to the right and releases none of any incriminating info he has. They cheat in the midterms. Any complaints about the midterms, legislation, presidential wrongdoing, etc, are welcome to make their case to Slimy K in his new SCOTUS robes

The only item I see as being in question at this point is whether we will do the work to provide enough turnout to overcome whatever they have planned for this election.

Response to Recursion (Original post)

rurallib

(62,387 posts)
10. decent leader wouldn't have put her in this position
Wed Sep 26, 2018, 08:31 PM
Sep 2018

instead they play footsie with the fringe crazies.

gabeana

(3,166 posts)
15. She looks great for being in her 80's
Wed Sep 26, 2018, 08:35 PM
Sep 2018

I have been critical with her, however, this is a great photo I'd use it in an campaign ad
She does not need it though, she will win easily,

customerserviceguy

(25,183 posts)
45. Maybe
Thu Sep 27, 2018, 02:38 AM
Sep 2018

What if, no matter how this turns out, that Trump tells GOP voters (who don't have a choice of their own in this race) to vote for de Leon to punish Feinstein? The logic would be that either of them would always vote against the Trump agenda anyway, and if Feinstein is replaced, California would lose a bit of seniority. And, there's the punishment issue. GOP'ers in CA have only two choices, either vote for who they think is the most moderate, or skip that line on the ballot. What if their Dear Leader gives them an order to wreak revenge?

I can definitely see that becoming the subject of a massive Trumpian tirade should it come to pass that Kavanaugh would not get confirmed by the Senate vote.

riversedge

(70,089 posts)
16. Off topic but DiFi looks good. She appears to me to have lost some
Wed Sep 26, 2018, 08:36 PM
Sep 2018

weight this last year. Good for her. I saw her behind her desk a few times, but not noticeable then.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
22. Didn't she have a health scare last year?
Wed Sep 26, 2018, 10:16 PM
Sep 2018

She sure as hell looks fit to eat a senior Senator from Alaska for breakfast right now...

flibbitygiblets

(7,220 posts)
23. Rachel showed this pic on her show--said they hugged and then walked away
Wed Sep 26, 2018, 10:44 PM
Sep 2018

Sounded like they came to some kind of agreement?

JHan

(10,173 posts)
24. Big DiFi Energy.
Wed Sep 26, 2018, 10:51 PM
Sep 2018

DiFI: Why are you being such a coward Lisa? Don't be like Sue..
Murkowski: You know why.. I'm sorry Dianne but I'm under a lot of pressure.
DiFI: But why? You know he's fucking awful?
Murkowski: You don't understand, ToadBoy has an agenda , and we're under strict instructions to fuck this country up, including every last woman...
DiFI: Whose fucked up agenda is this ? ToadBoy? .. Look, you don't have to do this Lisa, you don't have to fuck the country over. You know the Federalists are whackjobs.
Murkowski : But you don't understand..
DiFI: Did you hear me? You don't have to fuck the country over.
Murkowski: Sorry , what did you say?

Leith

(7,808 posts)
29. I Don't Think That DiFi Is Pressuring LiMu
Wed Sep 26, 2018, 11:00 PM
Sep 2018

They are in different parties and Finestein doesn't have any political control over Murkowski. They're having an intense discussion, sure. But the lack of any control and the hug at the end of it hints that their talk is more collaborative about a serious topic where they mostly agree.

AlexSFCA

(6,137 posts)
32. it is possible that murkowski respect difi
Wed Sep 26, 2018, 11:07 PM
Sep 2018

there may even be some mutual respect. Everyone understands that voting to confirm the rapist is a point of no return.

StatGirl

(518 posts)
37. I agree.
Wed Sep 26, 2018, 11:31 PM
Sep 2018

I don't get all this fantasizing that Feinstein is somehow being an aggressive jerk. That's not her style -- and it's not how you win votes.

njhoneybadger

(3,910 posts)
30. WOW what a great photo
Wed Sep 26, 2018, 11:03 PM
Sep 2018

This is the single best photo about the plight of American women in politics ever.
This should be on the front of Time Magazine!

still_one

(92,061 posts)
35. Murkowski can actually spell, and Feinstein is anything but WEAK. In fact a few folks owe her an
Wed Sep 26, 2018, 11:21 PM
Sep 2018

apology


 

StTimofEdenRoc

(445 posts)
41. Thank you, for pointing out my spelling error, but but you need to learn about punctuation.
Wed Sep 26, 2018, 11:57 PM
Sep 2018

specifically quotation marks.

Then you will understand that I was not calling her weak, but attributing the words in quotations to her as a thought or verbal communication.

customerserviceguy

(25,183 posts)
46. Use a colon (:) for that purpose.
Thu Sep 27, 2018, 02:41 AM
Sep 2018

I knew what you were saying, but punctuation really is important, even in the day of tweets and texts.

Commas save lives, without one, "Let's eat, Grandma" becomes "Let's eat Grandma"!

 

StTimofEdenRoc

(445 posts)
40. oh if I have to explain it I obviously failed ....
Wed Sep 26, 2018, 11:51 PM
Sep 2018

iI was an attempt to see MS Alaska painfully explaining how it was going to hurt her to vote to confirm, MS California looks to be discussed with her and thinking "You are worthless and weak."

but.................I failed

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