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DinahMoeHum

(21,774 posts)
Thu Sep 27, 2018, 12:35 PM Sep 2018

Steve Schmidt: ". . .total and complete political disaster. . ."




Every GOP campaign strategist and Hill staffer wishes they had the button to open the trap door under Rachel Mitchell’s chair. What a total and complete Political disaster for Republicans.


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Steve Schmidt: ". . .total and complete political disaster. . ." (Original Post) DinahMoeHum Sep 2018 OP
Excellent but is it enough to convince two GOPers to vote no? honest.abe Sep 2018 #1
I think so. Both women and maybe Flake. Funtatlaguy Sep 2018 #8
Yep, I am starting to think so too. honest.abe Sep 2018 #9
Please tiptonic Sep 2018 #16
Don't forget H-A aluma Shelley Moore Capito DeminPennswoods Sep 2018 #20
She was stopped by a reporter watoos Sep 2018 #26
I think she's in a tough spot because of how the H-A DeminPennswoods Sep 2018 #33
And they actively sought this disaster unblock Sep 2018 #2
Republicans totally stepped in their own mess C_U_L8R Sep 2018 #3
I wonder if they'll try to pull her and reinsert themselves once they talk at lunch? W_HAMILTON Sep 2018 #4
She is a prosecutor. She is usually on the other side taking down the likes of other Kavanaughs Maraya1969 Sep 2018 #5
My observation exactly. Ligyron Sep 2018 #30
Thank you for this encouraging update. I can't bear to watch it myself.... Hekate Sep 2018 #6
Why are they blaming this on Miller? OneGrassRoot Sep 2018 #7
It is the Republican way. Caliman73 Sep 2018 #18
Yes. Thank you! n/t OneGrassRoot Sep 2018 #27
What did they expect? Mitchell to start pounding her fists and start screaming in her face? Oneironaut Sep 2018 #10
They are likely upset with her because every question she asked Enoki33 Sep 2018 #34
There's Also An Outside Chance... smb Sep 2018 #11
This is the result of the GOP's complete ignorance about anything to do with sexual assault (other Nitram Sep 2018 #12
RIP repuglicons. Just hope some other branding of your form of hate doesn't bubble up erronis Sep 2018 #13
Whoa! that's an insult to a great charity, Americares. . . DinahMoeHum Sep 2018 #15
Thanks! Duly changed and noted. How about the "WASP" party? erronis Sep 2018 #17
Yeah, that might do it. DinahMoeHum Sep 2018 #36
Good. irisblue Sep 2018 #14
What Mitchell did was do a good job of questioning, given time she had to prepare. Honeycombe8 Sep 2018 #19
I was thinking Mitchell was foreclosed on, so to speak, by Dr. Ford being R B Garr Sep 2018 #21
Yes, but after making a minor point, that went nowhere. Mitchell is a prosecutor... Honeycombe8 Sep 2018 #23
Yes, but I took all Mitchell's explanations at the end about the proper kind of R B Garr Sep 2018 #24
Me, too. (gee, that term has a different meaning, now, doesn't it?) Honeycombe8 Sep 2018 #28
STFU Schmidt! It's not that Dr. Ford was credible, it's that the ringer, Mitchel, dropped the ball. TheBlackAdder Sep 2018 #22
By trump nominating someone so flawed and unvetted duforsure Sep 2018 #25
Other than Trump's family members watoos Sep 2018 #29
+1 appalachiablue Sep 2018 #31
Not that I hold Andrea Mitchell to high regard, but she is saying... Chakaconcarne Sep 2018 #32
Rachel Mitchell Sgent Sep 2018 #35

Funtatlaguy

(10,862 posts)
8. I think so. Both women and maybe Flake.
Thu Sep 27, 2018, 01:25 PM
Sep 2018

Plus, this has given Red State Dem Senators great cover to vote No.
So far, this could not have gone any better.
But, it’s not over so I shouldn’t count chickens 🐔 or votes yet.

 

watoos

(7,142 posts)
26. She was stopped by a reporter
Thu Sep 27, 2018, 02:51 PM
Sep 2018

and told the reporter she wasn't watching the hearing. Not sure what to take from that, doesn't sound like a no vote.

DeminPennswoods

(15,265 posts)
33. I think she's in a tough spot because of how the H-A
Thu Sep 27, 2018, 03:11 PM
Sep 2018

community has rallied around to support Dr Ford.

unblock

(52,116 posts)
2. And they actively sought this disaster
Thu Sep 27, 2018, 12:44 PM
Sep 2018

They knew he was a pig, they knew he had a problem with women, they surely knew at least some of these accusations,...

And even if they didn't, they could have pulled the plug at any point.

They just can't help themselves.

C_U_L8R

(44,987 posts)
3. Republicans totally stepped in their own mess
Thu Sep 27, 2018, 12:44 PM
Sep 2018

Idiots in ever regard. From their ill-thought strategy to one bonehead move after another, they're shooting themselves in the foot with their beloved automatic weapons.

Maraya1969

(22,462 posts)
5. She is a prosecutor. She is usually on the other side taking down the likes of other Kavanaughs
Thu Sep 27, 2018, 12:49 PM
Sep 2018

To me she looks like she has compassion for Dr. Ford.

Ligyron

(7,616 posts)
30. My observation exactly.
Thu Sep 27, 2018, 03:03 PM
Sep 2018

I don't think this sad circus could have gone any better for the Dems so far.

Hekate

(90,556 posts)
6. Thank you for this encouraging update. I can't bear to watch it myself....
Thu Sep 27, 2018, 12:54 PM
Sep 2018

I was glued to my tv for the Anita Hill hearings, and that was enough for one lifetime. I looked for (but could never find) a button or bumpersticker that said I BELIEVE ANITA HILL.

So it's an optical disaster for the GOP? Good. Now let's see if they still shove him onto the Court.

OneGrassRoot

(22,920 posts)
7. Why are they blaming this on Miller?
Thu Sep 27, 2018, 12:55 PM
Sep 2018

Isn't she doing her job? If you have a witness telling the truth, there's only so much entrapment and smear one can do.

Caliman73

(11,725 posts)
18. It is the Republican way.
Thu Sep 27, 2018, 02:26 PM
Sep 2018

Republicans/Conservatives are wired to believe that they way they perceive the world is the way it should be. I mean everybody is wired that way to some extent, but Liberals tend to be able to integrate new information and make changes in existing notions where Conservatives resist.

To a Republican/Conservative it seems almost impossible to accept that the principles behind conservatism are flawed and should be changed where necessary. It isn't conservatism that fails, it is people who fail conservatism.

This mentality allows them to come up with the stupid idea of putting a woman prosecutor up to question a survivor who has shown nothing but integrity throughout the process, and thinking it would have a good outcome for them. Like you said, Miller is a prosecutor, her job is typically to go after perpetrators of crimes. Granted if Ford was really lying or doing this maliciously, then there would be a point to all of this, but it has been pretty obvious that she has integrity. Remember however, to the Conservatives, it cannot be that the way they view this is wrong, it has to be how "others" are failing to implement their view. Miller is a convenient scapegoat.

Oneironaut

(5,486 posts)
10. What did they expect? Mitchell to start pounding her fists and start screaming in her face?
Thu Sep 27, 2018, 01:31 PM
Sep 2018

That’s what Republican Senators would have done. There’s such a thing as common decency. Ford is not on trial.

Her job is to uncover the truth. It is not to intimidate the victim. Half of these salty Republicans thought Mitchell was going to uncover some Democratic conspiracy. It’s ridiculous...

Enoki33

(1,587 posts)
34. They are likely upset with her because every question she asked
Thu Sep 27, 2018, 03:11 PM
Sep 2018

was a reflection of their personal cowardice.

smb

(3,471 posts)
11. There's Also An Outside Chance...
Thu Sep 27, 2018, 01:49 PM
Sep 2018

...that the Orange Oaf (who is reportedly fuming about what a fiasco this is becoming) may pull the plug to make himself look "statesmanlike" and put the blame on the Senate.

Nitram

(22,765 posts)
12. This is the result of the GOP's complete ignorance about anything to do with sexual assault (other
Thu Sep 27, 2018, 01:55 PM
Sep 2018

than participating in it.)

erronis

(15,181 posts)
13. RIP repuglicons. Just hope some other branding of your form of hate doesn't bubble up
Thu Sep 27, 2018, 01:59 PM
Sep 2018

from your swamp.

I know it will. You've become experts at fouling the nest, destroying your country, caring about your own. Maybe rebrand as the "WASP" party....

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
19. What Mitchell did was do a good job of questioning, given time she had to prepare.
Thu Sep 27, 2018, 02:28 PM
Sep 2018

What she was NOT was a political hack. I'm sure the Repubs thought she'd be a hack. Bwahahahaha. Surprise! There is at least one ethical person in the Republican Party.

R B Garr

(16,950 posts)
21. I was thinking Mitchell was foreclosed on, so to speak, by Dr. Ford being
Thu Sep 27, 2018, 02:35 PM
Sep 2018

so alarmingly credible and likeable. It seemed Mitchell was headed in certain directions but couldn't gain much traction. She was clearly trying to set up scenarios about who financed Ford.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
23. Yes, but after making a minor point, that went nowhere. Mitchell is a prosecutor...
Thu Sep 27, 2018, 02:41 PM
Sep 2018

so she knows that you have to handle sex crime victims and children with kid gloves. If you go after them or are too rough, it backfires.

The Repubs should have hired a political hack, if that's what they wanted.

Mitchell also had little time to prepare. The announcements was just yesterday that they'd hired her.

R B Garr

(16,950 posts)
24. Yes, but I took all Mitchell's explanations at the end about the proper kind of
Thu Sep 27, 2018, 02:48 PM
Sep 2018

interview to conduct for victims to also be a backhand towards Feinstein, etc., as if the best interview was deliberately avoided for political reasons. Mitchell didn't seem to be too concerned that the victim was ready, willing, and able for an FBI investigation, which would have taken more time. I see what you're saying, but I guess we saw different aspects of Mitchell. I do agree that she wasn't able to land any punches, and as a partisan selection, I'm sure she wanted to discredit Ford. She did get in at the end that no one recalls the party. Overall, I just didn't see Mitchell able to gain any traction against Ford.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
28. Me, too. (gee, that term has a different meaning, now, doesn't it?)
Thu Sep 27, 2018, 02:51 PM
Sep 2018

Yes, Mitchell got some minor points in. That's her job. But she didn't go after the jugular, which is what the Repubs wanted. She couldn't do that, because that backfires with a sex victim and a child.

So Mitchell did a good job, objectively. But not for the Repubs, and not for the Democrats. Just a clarifying force.

duforsure

(11,884 posts)
25. By trump nominating someone so flawed and unvetted
Thu Sep 27, 2018, 02:50 PM
Sep 2018

They caused this damage now to themselves , and can kiss not only this candidate goodbye , but this will insure both Houses are retaken control of by the Democrats from this upcoming election. A total disaster for trump and his minions now.

 

watoos

(7,142 posts)
29. Other than Trump's family members
Thu Sep 27, 2018, 02:53 PM
Sep 2018

no one else will work with Trump except monsters like Kavanaugh.

Chakaconcarne

(2,433 posts)
32. Not that I hold Andrea Mitchell to high regard, but she is saying...
Thu Sep 27, 2018, 03:08 PM
Sep 2018

McConnell is bluffing and doesn't have the votes...

Collins said the other day they were down 7, I also heard as high as 20.

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