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RockRaven

(14,951 posts)
Thu Sep 27, 2018, 07:59 PM Sep 2018

If Kavanaugh is confirmed, these hearings have justified, nay, mandated the Democrats eventually

changing the number of seats on SCOTUS and "packing" the court. Any argument about some fictitious apolitical noble institution were utterly torn asunder today.

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If Kavanaugh is confirmed, these hearings have justified, nay, mandated the Democrats eventually (Original Post) RockRaven Sep 2018 OP
I think SCOTUS should be expanded to 25 justices. Meadowoak Sep 2018 #1
I think at minimal there should be term limits. n/t RKP5637 Sep 2018 #6
Why not 125 onenote Sep 2018 #14
How about impeachment if we take the Congress? SkipG Sep 2018 #2
Impeachment requires a two-thirds majority in the Senate. Expansion requires only a simple majority dalton99a Sep 2018 #5
Plus abandoning the filibuster onenote Sep 2018 #15
If you can get 67 Senators, great. Today's hearing shows Repukes think the seat is "theirs" RockRaven Sep 2018 #7
I Made the Same Proposal Ccarmona Sep 2018 #3
Two more ought to be supported by us all for the good of the country eleny Sep 2018 #4
Well DU isn't exactly the arbiter of SC appointments fescuerescue Sep 2018 #11
yep, impeach Kavanaugh after the midterms... Grasswire2 Sep 2018 #8
Yes indeed! Pack the courts!! nt Lucky Luciano Sep 2018 #9
That's the real nuclear option. fescuerescue Sep 2018 #10
Is that worse than letting the GOP and corporate donor class own SCOTUS in perpetuity? RockRaven Sep 2018 #13
I'm suggesting that it's not a solution. fescuerescue Sep 2018 #18
Certainly a larger court could also be captured by the 0.1% just as readily as the current one. RockRaven Sep 2018 #19
We will need to nuke the filibuster first. roamer65 Sep 2018 #12
There's a small chance they could get to 60 in 2020, and not need to nuke the filibuster. RockRaven Sep 2018 #16
I have always thought that a larger court would be less likely to be packed. Stinky The Clown Sep 2018 #17

dalton99a

(81,428 posts)
5. Impeachment requires a two-thirds majority in the Senate. Expansion requires only a simple majority
Thu Sep 27, 2018, 08:05 PM
Sep 2018

onenote

(42,680 posts)
15. Plus abandoning the filibuster
Thu Sep 27, 2018, 09:37 PM
Sep 2018

I"m not sure you get a majority of Democrats to support abandoning the filibuster for any reason, let alone for a court packing plan.

RockRaven

(14,951 posts)
7. If you can get 67 Senators, great. Today's hearing shows Repukes think the seat is "theirs"
Thu Sep 27, 2018, 08:07 PM
Sep 2018

And if they don't care about rape, why would they care about perjury?

fescuerescue

(4,448 posts)
10. That's the real nuclear option.
Thu Sep 27, 2018, 09:31 PM
Sep 2018

But politics swing back and forth.

And if that happens, Then Republicans will add a bunch, then Democrats, then Republicans.

In a generation, the SC building will be a stadium of judges.

RockRaven

(14,951 posts)
13. Is that worse than letting the GOP and corporate donor class own SCOTUS in perpetuity?
Thu Sep 27, 2018, 09:35 PM
Sep 2018

Serious question.

fescuerescue

(4,448 posts)
18. I'm suggesting that it's not a solution.
Thu Sep 27, 2018, 10:26 PM
Sep 2018

Having hundreds and thousands of Supreme Court justices is no assurance that the GOP won't own that the court.

If they can own it at 9, they can own at 11, 15 21, 109. This was an idea that FDR realized was a bad one and back down mind you.

The solution lies in making sure that the correct President is doing the nominating.

RockRaven

(14,951 posts)
19. Certainly a larger court could also be captured by the 0.1% just as readily as the current one.
Thu Sep 27, 2018, 11:09 PM
Sep 2018

But whether or not you expand the court might effect the chances of the 99.9% capturing it back or not. Or the time -- measured in decades or generations -- required for such a reclamation to occur.

I think it is worth considering seriously. Making no change is also an affirmative choice, and should be treated as such.

RockRaven

(14,951 posts)
16. There's a small chance they could get to 60 in 2020, and not need to nuke the filibuster.
Thu Sep 27, 2018, 09:38 PM
Sep 2018

But admittedly the red state Dems probably would not go for it.

They could also partial nuke from 60 to 55. There's no magic in the 60 number. It was 67 before that, and 75 before that.

Stinky The Clown

(67,780 posts)
17. I have always thought that a larger court would be less likely to be packed.
Thu Sep 27, 2018, 09:40 PM
Sep 2018

I also think lifetime appointments should be gone. A single, non-renewable 10 year term sounds about right to me.

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