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Kavanaugh is a raging alcoholic who is still in total denial about his drinking. (Original Post) milestogo Sep 2018 OP
I agree... Sancho Sep 2018 #1
oh, bdamomma Sep 2018 #2
Flaming alcoholics often wind up with liver disease. GoCubsGo Sep 2018 #15
In which case I would encourage him to increase his alcohol intake until he achieves nirvana dalton99a Sep 2018 #42
From the look on his wife's face throughout that dog and pony show, GoCubsGo Sep 2018 #44
hmm.... bdamomma Sep 2018 #46
Or like homegirl Sep 2018 #17
Yep, my Dad. Super nice guy when sober, mean as hell when drunk. Quite common, actually. Funtatlaguy Sep 2018 #3
My old man was the same way. Volaris Sep 2018 #22
Indeed. McCamy Taylor Sep 2018 #4
K&R, Even MAGA Minions accept the fact that he didn't have good temperament uponit7771 Sep 2018 #5
Exactly. Textbook alcoholic denial. lindysalsagal Sep 2018 #6
What active alcoholic ISN'T in denial? Blue_true Sep 2018 #7
I think that is possible - that he was so drunk he doesn't remember what he did. milestogo Sep 2018 #9
People of privilege protect eachother. Blue_true Sep 2018 #11
His mother was the local juvenile crimes prosecutor, and later a state judge. Samspadesnark Sep 2018 #13
The cops call them Professional Drunks... Volaris Sep 2018 #25
That is a convenient bullshit excuse perpetuated by an asshole privileged drunk RainCaster Sep 2018 #35
What excuse? milestogo Sep 2018 #36
I have that potential in me somewhere... Volaris Sep 2018 #23
Your story is similar to mine. Blue_true Sep 2018 #31
The most powerful memory of my dad is the way his hugs felt... Volaris Sep 2018 #33
Boy you hit that one square on the head!! Can't have your way.. fly into a rage.. typical Thekaspervote Sep 2018 #8
Maybe we'll get lucky and he'll drink himself to death. Hong Kong Cavalier Sep 2018 #10
His liver should fairly pickled by now...and I don't believe beer is his first choice.. HipChick Sep 2018 #14
SCOTUS is now SCOTCHUS torius Sep 2018 #12
How dare u defile the Milk of the Gods lol! Volaris Sep 2018 #27
I came to the same conclusion myself Mountain Mule Sep 2018 #16
Does anyone besides me think he was drunk generalbetrayus Sep 2018 #18
Maybe he was dry drunk MountCleaners Sep 2018 #20
No slurred speech, but his movements were kind of sloppy dawg day Sep 2018 #32
No way was he stone cold sober. He was LibDemAlways Sep 2018 #39
Yes, I do. Mr.Bill Sep 2018 #19
Every woman's face says it all... iluvtennis Sep 2018 #21
He looks like an alcoholic by his complexion. Blotchy, gray, unhealthy. catbyte Sep 2018 #24
Where are the "alcoholic" accusations coming from besides the high school stories? MadDAsHell Sep 2018 #26
It came from the story in 1998 also. milestogo Sep 2018 #28
Ok, but an accusation qualifies almost no one here to diagnose alcoholism. MadDAsHell Sep 2018 #29
Also emails from the bush administration MaryMagdaline Sep 2018 #34
Qualifications. recovering_democrat Sep 2018 #41
The raging part is even more scary than black out drunk WhiteTara Sep 2018 #30
Yeah, 'cause six FBI background checks wouldn't catch something like that. WillowTree Sep 2018 #37
It was obvious to me. He was ANGRY! and he said he REALLY likes to drink beer Hassler Sep 2018 #38
Consult an expert. recovering_democrat Sep 2018 #40
I suspect you may be correct... BadGimp Sep 2018 #43
Looked just like a drunk martyr screaming at the cops on LIVE PD, A-Schwarzenegger Sep 2018 #45

bdamomma

(63,773 posts)
2. oh,
Thu Sep 27, 2018, 09:14 PM
Sep 2018

watching him on Rachel he's a freaking nutcase. He's a flaming alcoholic who is going to be sitting on the SC. God help us all.

Rachel is going over everything.

GoCubsGo

(32,069 posts)
15. Flaming alcoholics often wind up with liver disease.
Thu Sep 27, 2018, 10:45 PM
Sep 2018

I can't imagine Kavanaugh's liver is in very good shape after nearly 40 years of boozing it up. Just sayin'.

GoCubsGo

(32,069 posts)
44. From the look on his wife's face throughout that dog and pony show,
Fri Sep 28, 2018, 07:30 AM
Sep 2018

she's going to handing him the bottle.

Volaris

(10,266 posts)
22. My old man was the same way.
Thu Sep 27, 2018, 11:07 PM
Sep 2018

When he had 3 beers in him, he was among the most amazing human beings that has ever lived. But by the time the first 6 pack was finished....yeah, not so much

My sister figured out that u had to get over there on Saturday by 8am, and have an excuse to leave by 1 pm at the latest (cause that's when he usually finished the first and started on the second)

Best relationship advice I ever got heh.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
7. What active alcoholic ISN'T in denial?
Thu Sep 27, 2018, 09:28 PM
Sep 2018

I can believe that he is a nice guy when sober, but a monster when sloshed. My dad never raped anyone, but he went from a skilled, hardworking family man to a mean ass when he got liquored up, he is the reason why I don't touch alcohol, I have that potential in me somewhere.

Kavanaugh may be respectful when sober, but an assaulter when drunk. And it may be that he has NO recollection of what he did while drunk.

milestogo

(16,829 posts)
9. I think that is possible - that he was so drunk he doesn't remember what he did.
Thu Sep 27, 2018, 09:32 PM
Sep 2018

But his friend Mark Judge would probably have told him what he did, unless he suffers from the same problem.

And I think its highly unlikely he could go through a lifetime of drunken blackout belligerence without somebody telling him about his behavior. Its actually a wonder he hasn't been arrested.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
11. People of privilege protect eachother.
Thu Sep 27, 2018, 09:41 PM
Sep 2018

Have you ever seen the child of a local big shot imprisoned. I grew up in the South (not insulting anyone), I lived other places in the country. I can tell you that the children of well known bigwigs got away with awful things when I was growing up. Another thing is that taking sexual assault seriously is fairly recent, during the 80's people got away with stuff because cops believed that women got themselves in the situations where they were taken advantage of. I actually worked with an engineer whose husband beat her, she didn't have him arrested, there was nothing that we could do, that was early 2000.

Samspadesnark

(75 posts)
13. His mother was the local juvenile crimes prosecutor, and later a state judge.
Thu Sep 27, 2018, 10:40 PM
Sep 2018

Thus, during his teen years, complaints against juveniles would have been referred by law enforcement to her office even if she did not work on them personally. Explains a lot to me. I wonder what activities on his part really triggered the 'community service' he claims in his bio, and whether it was a rich bad boy 'stay out of juvenile hall free' card, as was alleged to have been the case with George W. Bush in his younger wild years. I ask the question because there is nothing in his temperament that spells heart-felt concern or sacrificial volunteer service for the lowly and needy to me. There is a different standard of accountability and punishment for the wealthy, highly connected elite than for the rest of us.

Volaris

(10,266 posts)
25. The cops call them Professional Drunks...
Thu Sep 27, 2018, 11:17 PM
Sep 2018

They manage to get themselves home ok (by some miracle)...they very rarley get popped for being drunk.
His privledged position only helped I'm sure

RainCaster

(10,790 posts)
35. That is a convenient bullshit excuse perpetuated by an asshole privileged drunk
Thu Sep 27, 2018, 11:45 PM
Sep 2018

OK, my family has very few alcoholics in it, so I have little to draw upon for experience. However, I see no reason at all why this clown has the wherewithal to be put on the highest court in the land for life. That would be nuts.

Just a reminder people- this is not a criminal court, but a job interview. How many of us would "win" that interview after a day like today?

milestogo

(16,829 posts)
36. What excuse?
Thu Sep 27, 2018, 11:56 PM
Sep 2018

He didn't make this claim, and I didn't make it for him. If he was so drunk he doesn't remember what he did, that would in no way exonerate him from the assault any more than if he killed someone while driving drunk and couldn't remember it. Heavy drinkers do have blackouts.

Volaris

(10,266 posts)
23. I have that potential in me somewhere...
Thu Sep 27, 2018, 11:14 PM
Sep 2018

Yes I do as well. Child of an alcoholic here...and I had to teach myself to take and utilize the Good parts of my dad that I inherited, and activley reject the bad.

That you know that potential is there is a good thing, and being wary of it does u credit I think. But for me, I had to stop fearing it before I could harness it's strength and force it's energy to MY OWN Will and good intentions, if that makes sense ..

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
31. Your story is similar to mine.
Thu Sep 27, 2018, 11:27 PM
Sep 2018

Over the years, I copied the good things about my dad, and avoided the drinking part. I think that I get my creativity mostly from my dad, also the ability to be patient and work through issues when I want to explode inside. My memories of him are firm, years after his death.

Volaris

(10,266 posts)
33. The most powerful memory of my dad is the way his hugs felt...
Thu Sep 27, 2018, 11:40 PM
Sep 2018

When it's hard, I recall into my physical being what that felt like, and I KNOW everything will be ok.

I did not greive for my father's passing as an adult...because his alcoholism forced me to do it as an adolocent. By the time he actually died, I possessed the maturity and sense of Self to know him (and reject his bullshit) as a Fellow Adult.

and I will be forever grateful for that expierence.

HipChick

(25,485 posts)
14. His liver should fairly pickled by now...and I don't believe beer is his first choice..
Thu Sep 27, 2018, 10:42 PM
Sep 2018

he's on the hard stuff..

Mountain Mule

(1,002 posts)
16. I came to the same conclusion myself
Thu Sep 27, 2018, 10:49 PM
Sep 2018

My Dad was a wonderful man sober, but drunk? All bets were off. Kavanaugh's rage makes me think of a mean drunk who has been thwarted.

generalbetrayus

(507 posts)
18. Does anyone besides me think he was drunk
Thu Sep 27, 2018, 10:58 PM
Sep 2018

while testifying today? The alternating rage and tears made me wonder. Obviously he was not stumbling, slurring drunk, but a hardcore alcoholic can be drunk without being obvious about it physically.

MountCleaners

(1,148 posts)
20. Maybe he was dry drunk
Thu Sep 27, 2018, 11:02 PM
Sep 2018

My grandparents owned a tavern - we saw plenty of drunks growing up. They showed up in the morning as angry "dry" drunks.

The first thing I thought when I saw him on tv was, "well I'm already prejudiced against him because he has ruddy skin." And then when the drinking stuff came out I remembered why I am prejudiced against red-faced people.

dawg day

(7,947 posts)
32. No slurred speech, but his movements were kind of sloppy
Thu Sep 27, 2018, 11:34 PM
Sep 2018

And the over-the-top emotionalism... He's a smart guy, so he can argue, but his arguments were so repetitive and childish, and he didn't really seem to focus well.

But who would get drunk before a Senate hearing?
Maybe he's just nasty generally, and can hide it most of the time, but not under stress.

LibDemAlways

(15,139 posts)
39. No way was he stone cold sober. He was
Fri Sep 28, 2018, 12:25 AM
Sep 2018

just as some who know him have described him -- a belligerant, mean, out of control drunk.

 

MadDAsHell

(2,067 posts)
26. Where are the "alcoholic" accusations coming from besides the high school stories?
Thu Sep 27, 2018, 11:18 PM
Sep 2018

Not saying it’s not possible, but as an alcoholic who hasn’t drank in 15 years, I’m amazed at how many doctors and psychologists we apparently have on here who can diagnosis an alcoholic by their temperament on TV.

This keyboard psychologist and doctoring bullshit is what loses our site respect. Unless you are actually qualified to diagnosis someone, can we cut this shit out and focus on factual shit, like the guy’s horrible judicial record?

milestogo

(16,829 posts)
28. It came from the story in 1998 also.
Thu Sep 27, 2018, 11:21 PM
Sep 2018

It seems that every accusation against him has involved drinking to excess.

 

MadDAsHell

(2,067 posts)
29. Ok, but an accusation qualifies almost no one here to diagnose alcoholism.
Thu Sep 27, 2018, 11:26 PM
Sep 2018

Or sociopathism/psychopathism. Or any one of the dozens of medical labels that DUers throw out on a regular basis. I realize people want the views/reccs so they throw these words in their subject lines, but it’s just plain wrong and irresponsible.

MaryMagdaline

(6,850 posts)
34. Also emails from the bush administration
Thu Sep 27, 2018, 11:44 PM
Sep 2018

He apologized to his buddies for losing his s**t about a game of craps?) and said he didn’t actually remember what happened. So ... 17 years ago but as an adult, not a teen.

I’ll cut him slack about his Irish complexion. But his emails ...

41. Qualifications.
Fri Sep 28, 2018, 12:40 AM
Sep 2018

I agree many do have the background to know it when they see it. But I continue to recommend we push for professional expertise on his substance abuse problem. Easier factual and objective qualifiers than what is being pursued now. And note the phrase "substance abuse" is purty different from drunk. .... and real easy to prove.

Hassler

(3,363 posts)
38. It was obvious to me. He was ANGRY! and he said he REALLY likes to drink beer
Fri Sep 28, 2018, 12:08 AM
Sep 2018

He's exactly what Blasey and his friends and roommate said he was.

40. Consult an expert.
Fri Sep 28, 2018, 12:31 AM
Sep 2018

Advising all who recognize these symptoms and behaviors to get some experts in this field to get past the politics and simply demonstrate everything that he did during his testimony is clear evidence of alcoholism and denial of same. Watch him closely, watch the water sips, etc.

May not get a valid FBI finding of sexual matters. From my view it is easy to prove his substance abuse problem been going on since high school.

Yes it should easily disqualify him.

A-Schwarzenegger

(15,596 posts)
45. Looked just like a drunk martyr screaming at the cops on LIVE PD,
Fri Sep 28, 2018, 07:41 AM
Sep 2018

blaming everybody but himself for his shitty existence.

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