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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsFlake being confronted on the elevator now
Two women ripping into him
"TELL ME I DON'T MATTER. TELL ME"
"DON'T LOOK AWAY FROM ME. TELL ME WHAT HAPPENED TO ME DOESN'T MATTER"
Flake: "Thank you. I have to get to the meeting"
Flake looks like he knows he's wrong. You can see it.
Goodheart
(5,318 posts)Immoral piece of bloviating shit.
davekriss
(4,616 posts)In other words, a Republican.
CincyDem
(6,346 posts)underpants
(182,724 posts)You could see the soul leaving him.
SummerSnow
(12,608 posts)benfranklin1776
(6,443 posts)He sold most of it long ago and now the lesser demons will fight over the scraps. Another traitor to the constitution and to the nation.
bdamomma
(63,812 posts)if they think for one minute we will forget this wait until November. Do not get in our way.
JaneQPublic
(7,113 posts)No suspenseful cliffhangers with this dude.
Tursiops
(89 posts)liberalmuse
(18,672 posts)I want my breath back, Flake! What a fucking, amoral coward.
demmiblue
(36,833 posts)underpants
(182,724 posts)That was riveting.
demmiblue
(36,833 posts)dchill
(38,462 posts)BlancheSplanchnik
(20,219 posts)Freethinker65
(10,008 posts)idcdu
(170 posts)That his useless ass will have no choice but to say no on the full Senate. Same for every Repuke.
BigmanPigman
(51,582 posts)I was stunned he stood there and let them speak when he was cornered.
BeyondGeography
(39,367 posts)Funtatlaguy
(10,868 posts)RhodeIslandOne
(5,042 posts)End of story.
underpants
(182,724 posts)eleny
(46,166 posts)How it feels to be Trump's whore.
TheBlackAdder
(28,179 posts).
Flake could have stopped this in his tracks and spared Murkowski and Collins the grief of a vote.
However, Collins, Flake, Manchin & Murkowski supposedly have an agreement to vote as a bloc.
In order for them to do this, Flake has to release the nomination to a full floor vote.
Perhaps Murkowski wants to go on record stopping him, so there is no doubt she supports the indigenous of AK.
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Hortensis
(58,785 posts)Silver Gaia
(4,542 posts)TheBlackAdder
(28,179 posts)Hortensis
(58,785 posts)Remember that tremendous pressure to seat Kavanaugh from their electorate. Sounds like they'd choose months of scandal ending in impeachment as long as it was AFTER the midterms. Those voters are trained to deny everything they don't want to believe as Democratic lies, of course, and McConnell can't reverse that at will. He's their enemy also.
Silver Gaia
(4,542 posts)Collins, Murkowski, Manchin, and Donnelly who vowed to vote as a block. Flake was not mentioned in what I read as part of that pact. Donnelly is signaling a NO vote this morning.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)Flake was very quiet and shaking his head, not like his usual self, after the hearing yesterday. I was stunned myself. Drama around here is a bluebird family quarreling with a woodpecker at the birdbath.
I'm thinking "kavanaugh" should become a new word for a nuclear-level clusterfuck that oversets all traditions and norms.
1:45 p.m., discussion behind the scenes reportedly about a possible brief delay and quick FBI investigation. And they're coming back in... The kavenaugh continues.
Silver Gaia
(4,542 posts)I'm getting tired of living in those proverbial "interesting times."
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)It's going to be quite an adjustment when the news gets boring again. Someday. When I don't feel a little alarm when I realize I've been out of touch all morning and don't know if we bombed some unfortunate place while I wasn't paying attention.
Silver Gaia
(4,542 posts)I find myself anxiously checking news on my phone before I go to sleep (which is not as restful as it used to be), and again immediately when I wake. The day is punctuated with checking in every hour at least, and then I sit down to watch Rachel at 6:00 (we get her live at 6 on the west coast). I feel like I'm getting nothing done, and I'm not getting much done lately. This Kavanaugh crap has been extremely stressful and time consuming. whew...
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)in the past couple days, all right. Someone described everyone silent on his airliner yesterday watching the hearing on seatback TVs.
I was waiting for the vote this afternoon and suddenly realized how physically stressed I was feeling by all this drama. Came back in from pulling weeds and scrubbing the birdbath a while ago, then watched the new Murphy Brown show because my husband said I had to. Good medicine even if it is political.
Then I checked in and heard historians now saying they thought we were on the brink of a disastrous collapse of institutions this morning, with severe collapse of confidence in the courts among Americans and the senate in genuine danger of losing its independence and becoming a very weak arm of Trump's presidential power.
But Flake and Chris Coons, and those allied with them in both parties, did what our systems were designed to do and pulled us back from "the abyss." Our systems held because when they arrived at the edge of the abyss these people did.
Okay. Nice of them to keep quiet about it this morning.
McConnell still has to put on a tremendous show of trying to get Kavanaugh confirmed. From what I've read, he has no significant ideology or objective goals and no concern for institutions, just his own craving for power that he will use to smash anything in his way. His near destruction of the senate, including this late attempt to brutally ram Kavanaugh through no matter the cost, has probably been almost entirely about maintaining his personal power. Maybe not almost.
38 days to midterms.
Silver Gaia
(4,542 posts)This is gonna be another long week, but at least I'm more hopeful now than I was last night. I took a nap this afternoon after the news of Flake, Murkowski, and Manchin broke. I've got a severe sleep deficit going and anything helps. My daughter wants to protest somewhere tomorrow, and we will go with her, probably down to the state capitol. Thanks for sharing with me.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)and protesting will be great medicine! Have a blast.
maryellen99
(3,788 posts)Polly Hennessey
(6,793 posts)All any of them want is the attention. Who would even recognize them if not for their whiny fence sitting on major votes. None of them have ever accomplished anything of significance on their own which would put them in the spotlight. John McCain did have something extraordinary happen to him, and did not need added recognition. And dont forget, they need to toe the line in order to be hired after they leave public office. Which I hope will be soon for many of them.
demmiblue
(36,833 posts)Link to tweet
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)Those women that cornered him in that elevator were speaking from the heart. Could he not see and feel that? Yet, he calls himself a moral man.
demmiblue
(36,833 posts)Link to tweet
demmiblue
(36,833 posts)He had no answers for me on that plane, and he had no answers for her today.
He is a coward and a disgrace.
We shall overcome.
Link to tweet
NorCen_CT
(176 posts)libtodeath
(2,888 posts)Afromania
(2,768 posts)Stellar
(5,644 posts)I hope all of those sorry sob Republicons have to watch their backs until they are no longer in Congress, or the Supreme court.
SunSeeker
(51,545 posts)Can't have it both ways, Jeff. You can't say you believe Dr. Ford AND vote for Kavanaugh.
defacto7
(13,485 posts)There are no heros. Only bullies and wimps.
Murtagh101
(4 posts)I hear the anguish in those women's voices. I hear them say that they feel they won't be heard.
That by voting for Kavanaugh that they are saying they don't matter.
I hear their cry.
We MUST Vote.
VOTE.
VOTE.
Reader Rabbit
(2,624 posts)He actually knows what he's doing is wrong, but he's doing it anyway. The rest of them are sociopaths who can't be expected to behave like they have integrity, or a conscience, or a sense of right and wrong.
avebury
(10,952 posts)It was heartbreaking to listen to those women.
If the women of this country do not understand that the Rethugs don't care about them they never will. The Rethugs are doing everything they can to destroy this country and the masses are the ones who will suffer for it.
DFW
(54,327 posts)There must have been some big promises of finances for a presidential run, maybe as early as 2020, that no one has yet uncovered.
Remember this in 18 months! I promise you all he is not retiring from the Senate to open a CVS franchise in Flagstaff.
BarbD
(1,192 posts)This is the time to be determined. This is the time to work together. This is the time to know that we WILL overcome. VOTE!
elmac
(4,642 posts)George W, the criminal that got us stuck in endless wars, who murdered 100's of thousands of Iraqis, has been on the phone getting votes for his buddy Kavanaugh
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)John Dean wrote that about W and his administration. From a review:
Link to tweet
What put W in the WH, the changes his administration made to the country, and what has been effected since through the Republican establishment, including Cavanaugh, are all ideologically on the same track. Very interesting book, many of same people still around.
demmiblue
(36,833 posts)Link to tweet