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bigtree

(85,977 posts)
Fri Sep 28, 2018, 10:39 AM Sep 2018

If Kavanaugh believes Democrats have conspired against him, how can he stand in judgment of issues

...that come before his court, without bias or a desire for recrimination?

It's obviously not a benign view of Kavanaugh's, given that it's absolutely looney and disassociated from ANY facts in this matter. How can he effectively and credibly sit on the highest court in the nation and rule without the animus he demonstrated in the hearing yesterday?

Judge KIavanaugh irrevocably tainted his judgement from the bench when he lashed out at Democrats in such a bizarre and vehemently biased manner. He should be impeached, right now, and disbarred for his dishonest attacks on the democratic process - the process he relied on to get where he is today.

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If Kavanaugh believes Democrats have conspired against him, how can he stand in judgment of issues (Original Post) bigtree Sep 2018 OP
He can't. Better stop sitting on your asses and not voting Thrill Sep 2018 #1
He will exact revenge SHRED Sep 2018 #2
he appeared deeply disturbed yesterday bigtree Sep 2018 #4
I think he had also some alcohol on board. Grasswire2 Sep 2018 #14
He can't be impeached because: The Velveteen Ocelot Sep 2018 #3
Is 67 votes constitutional uponit7771 Sep 2018 #5
Yes. Same process as for impeaching and convicting presidents. The Velveteen Ocelot Sep 2018 #6
he's a sitting judge bigtree Sep 2018 #7
I'm just stating how the process works and what the outcome is likely to be. The Velveteen Ocelot Sep 2018 #9
This message was self-deleted by its author bigtree Sep 2018 #11
Sorry. Like I said, I wasn't offering an opinion or giving advice, The Velveteen Ocelot Sep 2018 #12
He sure was blaming Dems for all his problems, at times he was in an uncontrolled procon Sep 2018 #8
"Brett Kavanaugh is a Republican operative who is posing as a judge." dalton99a Sep 2018 #10
He has always been one of the gang of hyper-partisans in the GOP Grasswire2 Sep 2018 #15
Yep. Republicans want a reliable party operative on the court - come hell or high water dalton99a Sep 2018 #16
In crime circles or syndicates, a compromised judge is gold. Pure gold. Grasswire2 Sep 2018 #18
That's kind of the point..Judge Kavan-R is the Repub dream Justice... Wounded Bear Sep 2018 #13
kick bigtree Sep 2018 #17
I think he blew that gig. JohnnyRingo Sep 2018 #19
He can't. He doesn't want to. He knows his place, as do those who pushed his nomination. joet67 Sep 2018 #20
he's going to be like Clarence Thomas, sitting on the court for decades, bitter, voting against Demovictory9 Sep 2018 #21
He is Far Too Biased and Partisan to Ever Provide a Fair Hearing of the Facts in Any Case Before Him dlk Sep 2018 #22
A big fat "F" on Judicial Temperament Novembrist Sep 2018 #23
First, he'll be a Supreme Court Justice and he can do whatever the fuck he wants Calista241 Sep 2018 #24
blameless marieo1 Sep 2018 #25
And Merrick Garland? Zambero Sep 2018 #26
I will NEVER forget Scarsdale Sep 2018 #27

Thrill

(19,178 posts)
1. He can't. Better stop sitting on your asses and not voting
Fri Sep 28, 2018, 10:45 AM
Sep 2018

Or voting for third parties. Biggest evidence ever that elections have consequences

bigtree

(85,977 posts)
4. he appeared deeply disturbed yesterday
Fri Sep 28, 2018, 10:49 AM
Sep 2018

...I agree that he has some sort of mental disorder which is a manic combination of self-importance and lack of empathy.

He looked very unstable, and even violent.

Grasswire2

(13,565 posts)
14. I think he had also some alcohol on board.
Fri Sep 28, 2018, 11:12 AM
Sep 2018

Watch the parts where he is incoherent and just stops talking. Looks like a drinker on the bar stool. Face all twisted, crying, sniffing back the snot running from his nose. He didn't pull out a handkerchief until it was all over, despite his prep school manners class. Toward the end, he looked dazed.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,608 posts)
3. He can't be impeached because:
Fri Sep 28, 2018, 10:47 AM
Sep 2018

(a) he hasn't actually been confirmed yet, and (b) there aren't enough votes to impeach, let alone convict him. Where are those 67 Senators going to come from?

If he's disbarred (which would be a decision by the licensing agency of the state in which he holds a law license), it doesn't matter because you don't need a law license to be on the Supreme Court.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,608 posts)
6. Yes. Same process as for impeaching and convicting presidents.
Fri Sep 28, 2018, 10:52 AM
Sep 2018

Majority of the House to impeach, 2/3 of the Senate to convict and remove from office - specifically Article I, Sec. 3. Also, the Chief Justice presides over the trial in the Senate.

bigtree

(85,977 posts)
7. he's a sitting judge
Fri Sep 28, 2018, 10:55 AM
Sep 2018

...and I don't have any expectation at all that this republican party will do anything but massage him.

Is there something wrong with wanting these things? Something wrong with expecting our judges to be held accountable?

I really don't need you or anyone else to tell me what the republican party will do. I'd like, on occasion, to state what I believe without it being projected into some kind of cynicism. That's probably unrealistic too, huh?

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,608 posts)
9. I'm just stating how the process works and what the outcome is likely to be.
Fri Sep 28, 2018, 10:59 AM
Sep 2018

That's not being cynical, just realistic.

Response to The Velveteen Ocelot (Reply #9)

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,608 posts)
12. Sorry. Like I said, I wasn't offering an opinion or giving advice,
Fri Sep 28, 2018, 11:12 AM
Sep 2018

just stating how the procedure works. If you interpreted that as cynical, I can't help it but I'm sorry you feel that way. It wasn't my intent.

procon

(15,805 posts)
8. He sure was blaming Dems for all his problems, at times he was in an uncontrolled
Fri Sep 28, 2018, 10:57 AM
Sep 2018

rage, but then he devolved into a weepy pity party. He seemed to be basing at least some of his grievances on popular rightwing conspiracy theories and repeating the unsubstantiated commentary from the celebrity talk show personalities who earn a very comfy income making up farfetched opinions on Fox News. Which brings up his partisan TV interview on the same channel where he again sided with Republicans and repeated their talking points to continue to bash Democrats.

Kavanaugh's party biases and his clear prejudices against all things relating to the Democratic Party, does not show him to be an impartial, dispassionate and fair minded judge. On the high court, he will have his revenge in ruling on cases that involve Dems and their policies and the causes then support, siding with Republicans to change the face of this country.

Grasswire2

(13,565 posts)
15. He has always been one of the gang of hyper-partisans in the GOP
Fri Sep 28, 2018, 11:18 AM
Sep 2018

The ones deployed by Richard Mellon Scaife during the Clinton presidency. Groomed and armed with bitter vitriol. Coulter, Drudge, Ingraham, Kellyanne.....that bunch. They are still in the plot. I even saw Jonah Goldberg on CNN the other day.

dalton99a

(81,404 posts)
16. Yep. Republicans want a reliable party operative on the court - come hell or high water
Fri Sep 28, 2018, 11:24 AM
Sep 2018

who happens to be a perfect protector for Trump

That's it. They couldn't care less about his crimes

Grasswire2

(13,565 posts)
18. In crime circles or syndicates, a compromised judge is gold. Pure gold.
Fri Sep 28, 2018, 01:47 PM
Sep 2018

As is a compromised coroner.

Malleable and blackmailable.

JohnnyRingo

(18,619 posts)
19. I think he blew that gig.
Sat Sep 29, 2018, 01:59 AM
Sep 2018

He's at a point now where he has to perjure himself further or admit to prior perjury. He was adamant about it too, literally saying at one time "I swear to God...".

Everything Trump touches gets pulled into the swamp. Jeff Sessions could still be enjoying a lifetime in the senate, but he accepted Trump's offer for the big time. Many others in his cabinet have seen similar career ending fates. see Scott Pruitt.

Brett Kavenaugh will be lucky to get a job writing living wills after this. He may even have to earn money for prison apple jack by giving legal advice.

joet67

(624 posts)
20. He can't. He doesn't want to. He knows his place, as do those who pushed his nomination.
Sat Sep 29, 2018, 02:09 AM
Sep 2018

He is there to cement to conservative view of the court for decades. He is utterly partisan.

Demovictory9

(32,423 posts)
21. he's going to be like Clarence Thomas, sitting on the court for decades, bitter, voting against
Sat Sep 29, 2018, 02:16 AM
Sep 2018

women, people of color, libs.

dlk

(11,514 posts)
22. He is Far Too Biased and Partisan to Ever Provide a Fair Hearing of the Facts in Any Case Before Him
Sat Sep 29, 2018, 08:17 AM
Sep 2018

Prior to being on the bench, Kavanaugh was a partisan warrior and operative for the extreme right. This, alone, should disqualify him.

 

Novembrist

(35 posts)
23. A big fat "F" on Judicial Temperament
Sat Sep 29, 2018, 08:52 AM
Sep 2018

"Yeah, yeah, I'll be there to cast my vote on indicting Obama and Hillary as soon as I finish this Coors Light!"

Calista241

(5,586 posts)
24. First, he'll be a Supreme Court Justice and he can do whatever the fuck he wants
Sat Sep 29, 2018, 08:59 AM
Sep 2018

And nobody can say shit. If pressed, he’ll probably say it was just the Dems on the committee.

However, a SC Justice, like the President, can only be removed from office for high crimes and misdemeanors. They can’t just remove him because he’s an asshole, or because they feel like it. They’ll have to come up with a real, legal reason to boot him off the court.

marieo1

(1,402 posts)
25. blameless
Sat Sep 29, 2018, 10:20 AM
Sep 2018

Typical alcoholic...........don't take any blame for your own actions!!! Blame democrats, the wife, circumstances, the gals that came forward, other people..........anyone but don't take any blame yourself. They are never at fault and will deny, deny, deny. I think DJT is another one!!! We need the facts!!!

Zambero

(8,962 posts)
26. And Merrick Garland?
Sat Sep 29, 2018, 11:46 AM
Sep 2018

Naturally, as a recent SCOTUS nominee, he would have absolutely no reason to believe that the same Republicans had conspired against him!

Scarsdale

(9,426 posts)
27. I will NEVER forget
Sat Sep 29, 2018, 04:33 PM
Sep 2018

when Al Gore was winning in Florida. Roger Stone took a planeload of young repubs. down there, to protest the recount. Would not allow it. The decision was handed to the SC. Sandra Day O'Connor was the deciding vote, and voted for Dubya. Her reason? "I have known the elder Bush's for many years, and did not want to see them disappointed"!!! How's THAT for a well thought out judicial decision? Why did they bother voting on this, when it was a foregone conclusion that the (D) would vote for Gore, and the majority (R)'s would vote for Dubya? Has anything changed, because we are royally screwed even without Kavenaugh getting onto the SC. He would be the deciding vote for the (R)'s which is exactly what tRump wants.

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