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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsRight wingers claiming a Kavanaugh defeat will rile up the right flank.
What do you think?
manor321
(3,344 posts)The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,612 posts)but better behaved. The righties will get their anti-abortion, pro-corporate justice and they'll settle down.
irisblue
(32,932 posts)jaysunb
(11,856 posts)it seems we're a bit riled up as well
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)Every one of us need to get out vote in with time to spare, and push family and friends to do the same. The deplorables are going to max out at the ballot box, if we don't match their intensity, we will not get the results that we want.
jaysunb
(11,856 posts)democratic friend
(137 posts)13 amendments l!!!!! Yes I said it right. Will 20 year old be patient enough to stand in line longer then they typically would. Voting went from 5 minutes per person to 15 minutes per person. And of course no added machines or voting places. Sounds like on purpose to me.
customerserviceguy
(25,183 posts)So, it's not just GOTV, but about going into the polling place knowing where you stand on the amendments to vote quickly. I had never thought of ballot initiatives and such as being voter suppression techniques, but now you've got me educated on that.
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)Also, they can leave the initiatives not voted on (blank). There were 19-20 initiatives, they were combined to produce 13. Every voter plays by the same rules, if one accepts your claim of the initiatives suppressing votes, then one must conclude that it suppresses vote uniformly, regardless of political bent.
I strongly suggest that people in Florida early vote at non peak hours (6-8pm on weekdays), or fill out and mail in their ballot immediately, being careful to sign right and do other stuff right. I much prefer in person early voting. I checked my registration status last night, took me 2 minutes.
customerserviceguy
(25,183 posts)Let's face it, retired people have all day to get voting done, and younger people who have jobs and kids to raise might not feel they have time to wait in a long line to get into a polling place. The advantage that older people have is even more pronounced in Florida.
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)Voting starts on Oct 18 and includes one Saturday and Sunday. I suggest that people vote after work (if days) or before work (if nights) during the first 1-4 days of early voting, I find that the line is short. I finish voting in around 7 minutes from walking in to walking out after my ballot is scanned.
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)There were a lot more of them, something like 19 or 20, several were combined. People don't have to vote on the initiatives.
The two early voting locations that I go to have a minimum of 15 voting booths. The largest of the two has 30-40 booth. I am talking to my very large family, advising them to vote early, that is far faster.
democratic friend
(137 posts)I agree with early voting but I go the day of due to excitement. I would never do absentee unless desperate. They are thrown out big time. Mostly from no signature on envelope. I went to a league of women voters meeting and they went through the amendments. I hate the state combined some. Thank you for the reply.
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)There are some where a vote is for or against two disparate things.
The Amendment text is published at the Secretary of State's office and several other places on like, with the pro and con arguments.
Be aware that there will be Judges on the ballot up for renewal (statewide). Vote NO on both, they are Scott appointed lackeys, he is trying to stack the Florida Supreme and Appeals Courts.
democratic friend
(137 posts)I will vote no doubt n the judges.
SoCalNative
(4,613 posts)a vote by mail option?
Awsi Dooger
(14,565 posts)I signed up for absentee this time, partially because I'm leaving on a trip on October 17 and probably won't return until after early voting is finished.
I received a text this morning from Democratic state senator Annette Taddeo's campaign saying my absentee ballot will be mailed out next week. That was appreciated. The local Democrats seem to be a bit more on the ball this time. Donna Shalala candidate for FL-27 contacts me all the time.
2naSalit
(86,336 posts)put that fucker on the SCOTUS.
Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)yes it will rile the right wingers,but,from what we are seeing with the new voter registration numbers,that day is past. People want to vote and get rid of the Corruption and after yesterday,the voters are turning on the Rethugs in a major way.
The longer Kavanah is around,we pick up more folks on our side.
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)We had people sitting at home not voting, writing in Bernie or voting for Stein. I really don't think that we need the people that wrote in Bernie or voted for Stein to win big if we get more of the home sisters involved. Honestly, I doubt that a single deplorable sat at home in 2016 or wasted their vote. My guess is the home sitters were overwhelmingly votes for our side, hopefully they learned a fucking lesson from 2016.
Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)turnout in key areas. The Media did their Job ob Voter Suppression via discouraging turn out with their Bothsiderisms and playing up Comey and the E-Mails. This time,people are starting get hit in the pocket book and they are ready to take some scalps.
blogslut
(37,985 posts)And tonight's singular tweet of the day, he expresses his support for Brett with the force of a just-born kitten.
If their orange jesus cuts Kavanaugh loose, they'll accept it I guess.
unblock
(52,126 posts)I mean these people think Hillary ran a pedophile ring out of a non-existent pizza parlor basement ffs.
Fox News and others will invent a way to rile them up if they have to.
dalton99a
(81,406 posts)Fuck them. A good punch in the nose is what they deserve
Dawson Leery
(19,348 posts)Blue_true
(31,261 posts)We should grab them by the nose, kick them in the ass, then break their nose before putting a knee to their groin. Then we should give them $1.50 to buy themselves a cheap can of beer, so that they can drink as they lick their wounds.
potone
(1,701 posts)"Give them our lunch money." These people are bullies, and the only way to fight them is, in fact, to fight them! If we keep making nice and giving in things will just continue to get worse. Why should a minority get to make all of the decisions in our country?
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)ProudLib72
(17,984 posts)Right wingers: FUCK YOUR FEELINGS!
superpatriotman
(6,246 posts)We just have to drag voters to the polls.
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)HipChick
(25,485 posts)ooky
(8,908 posts)They think they are entitled to everything and when they don't get it turn into spoiled brats.
Roland99
(53,342 posts)But nothing more than another 9/12 gathering would result
Atticus
(15,124 posts)lindysalsagal
(20,592 posts)most of them only use the gop to try to legislate religion, and so, if they can't have that, they'll stay home.
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)Then we need to match them vote for vote, then bury them with our superior numbers.
getagrip_already
(14,647 posts)One moment they are claiming the voters will punish them if they don't get the nomination through. The next, they are saying voters will punish dems.
Both statements can't be true. If their voters punish them, they aren't punishing dems. Besides, the voters who would be pissed off by his nom failing would NEVER vote for a dem anyway.
Will some gop voters turn out who would have stayed home? We have to assume so and get even more people on our side out.
But if we are smart, we will get them angry at the gop itself, and encourage them to punish republican candidates. That, with an aggressive gotv effort on our side, sounds like fun.
But one thing is certain, you just know the dirty trick squads are looking for republican woman who will be willing to lie about something a dem they went to high school with did something criminal. Be on guard. It is coming. They have money and a lack of ethics. A dangerous combuination.
RainCaster
(10,842 posts)They will accept what ever bullshit the Mango Molester spews over Twitter.
Flaleftist
(3,473 posts)Andy823
(11,495 posts)I read where they said "getting" Kavanaugh confirmed and in the court by the 1st of October would "rally" the base and get them out come election.
I also heard several right wingers on TV today saying the FBI investigation was good, and that they, the republicans on the committee, were "holding" back on that as a bargaining ploy, something they would use to help them if needed. They also said that's why Kavanaugh was keeping that FBI thing in his "quiver" to pull out when needed. Funny how the republicans who were so confident they could ram him through would need to hold and FBI investigation, something they, and trump said could NOT be done, wasn't needed, a waste of time according to Kavanaugh because he already had 6 prior probes, would be holding a probe back because they were going to us it at the last minute!
No matter what happens, trump and the republicans won't admit defeat, they will lie and make up crap to try and make it look like they have everything under control, when in reality the only think they do is make new rules, lie, like, lie, and take credit for things they didn't do while blaming others for the mistakes they make. Remember what trump said about not believing what you see, just believe what he is telling you. Sadly that works with his small base, but not with the rest of the country.
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)That is why the "no difference between parties" assholes need to stop bashing our party. We need to vote like we are 10 points down, but still think that we can win, in every race. It fucking enrages me when someone on our side meant to vote but frittered away time and did not vote, enough of that and the republican end up winning by 1000 votes, or 150 vote, or 1 damned vote, all because someone could not find 15 fucking minutes free to vote. The deplorables DO NOT MISS A CHANCE TO VOTE. I live in a red county, I see lots of them when I early vote.
If we match their intensity, our superior numbers will crush them.
Liberal In Texas
(13,533 posts)They're going to get riled up when the midterms knock them in the head and they'll blame the Chinese or something equally nuts to justify it.
They're going to get riled up when the Siberian Candidate is indicted. Almost anything is going to rile them up, so who gives a shit.
Kaleva
(36,259 posts)Leghorn21
(13,523 posts)SoCalDem
(103,856 posts)kentuck
(111,054 posts)If they are riled up anymore...
DetroitLegalBeagle
(1,915 posts)A substantial number of GOP voters pulled the lever for trump in 2016 simply due to the SCOTUS seat. Had Kavanaugh been seated, there is a good chance they would have stayed home this November. If the seat is held open, they may decide to turn out again. Don't kid yourselves, SCOTUS matters quite a bit to GOPer's.
[link:https://www.vox.com/2018/6/29/17511088/scotus-2016-election-poll-trump-republicans-kennedy-retire|]
GOTV is going to be crucial for Democrats.
customerserviceguy
(25,183 posts)If Kav is seated on the SCOTUS in the next couple of weeks, that allows passion to cool down on their side.
However, if Kennedy's seat is still open and vacant, it will indeed be used as gasoline on the fire. A lot of low-information voters may come out of the woodwork. The only thing that will deflate them is if the FBI investigation turns up something that is very damaging to Kav, beyond the ability of Faux Snooze to spin the story.
Grasswire2
(13,565 posts)They say that the base will avoid the election in droves if Kav not confirmed. They are really mad.
lindysalsagal
(20,592 posts)Squinch
(50,921 posts)need to act and vote.
Cosmocat
(14,559 posts)have to see how it plays out.
suegeo
(2,571 posts)Lock her up, lock her up, emails emails benghazi we are going to repeal Obamacare benghazi benghazi thats right lock her up my son promoted pizzagate, get a brain morans!
Weapons grade propaganda is quite effective on our comrades on the right. There's ample proof of that. Hannity could fart wrong, which would be enough to rile up the base of rabid bats
Leith
(7,808 posts)I'm sick of walking on egg shells around them. They dish it out all the time, but they can't stand the slightest pushback. It's time they get pushed back hard.
SoCalDem
(103,856 posts)Everything riles them up....nothing new
jmowreader
(50,530 posts)The old give me what I want when I want it or else gambit.
I wonder if they realize how pathetic this sounds. Look at the Kaepernick/Nike thing. There was supposed to be this yooge boycott thatd kill Nike over that one ad. Besides a couple of RW nuts setting worn-out shoes on fire and posting it on YouTube, nothing came of it. AND Nikes sales are up. Oops.
If Kavanaugh is withdrawn for being a horrific person, the handful of people who still stand behind Trump are going to go to the polls and vote straight ticket R, but they would have anyway. People not in possession of a red hat very well may vote D when they might have stayed home, just to keep Trump from pulling this again.
vlyons
(10,252 posts)They're already riled up. They're always riled up.
Iliyah
(25,111 posts)all they do is promote fear, and all they do is lie, cheat and steal.
I'm tired of them.
DrDan
(20,411 posts)pecosbob
(7,533 posts)randr
(12,409 posts)They will retreat to their caves and not be seen for 6 months.
Downtown Hound
(12,618 posts)With the full expectation that they will still be riled up no matter when I wake up.
shanti
(21,675 posts)When are they not riled up? Fuck 'em.
CanonRay
(14,087 posts)Fuck 'em. Let them blow an artery.
dembotoz
(16,785 posts)They get out their base
We don't
They foam at the mouth and vote
We clutch our pearls and stay home and cry
Azathoth
(4,607 posts)if they didn't ram Kavanaugh through.
Now suddenly it will be a source of strength for them?
struggle4progress
(118,236 posts)GoCubsGo
(32,075 posts)They're perpetually angry.
JHB
(37,157 posts)...if one of their "tell it like it is" sources connected it to Obama, the Clintons, or George Soros.