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Mon Oct 1, 2018, 02:17 PM

The United States is going to have a practicing alcoholic on the Supreme Court.

If you don’t think this is a problem, talk to families of alcoholics.

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Reply The United States is going to have a practicing alcoholic on the Supreme Court. (Original post)
onecaliberal Oct 2018 OP
CincyDem Oct 2018 #1
greymattermom Oct 2018 #2
Fred Sanders Oct 2018 #29
onecaliberal Oct 2018 #34
DonViejo Oct 2018 #3
onecaliberal Oct 2018 #4
DonViejo Oct 2018 #10
onecaliberal Oct 2018 #13
pnwmom Oct 2018 #25
rurallib Oct 2018 #31
SoCalNative Oct 2018 #5
onecaliberal Oct 2018 #7
Initech Oct 2018 #6
onecaliberal Oct 2018 #9
redstatebluegirl Oct 2018 #8
RobinA Oct 2018 #11
elocs Oct 2018 #12
lame54 Oct 2018 #15
shanti Oct 2018 #23
onecaliberal Oct 2018 #16
elocs Oct 2018 #24
onecaliberal Oct 2018 #35
elocs Oct 2018 #37
onecaliberal Oct 2018 #40
pnwmom Oct 2018 #26
lame54 Oct 2018 #14
DFW Oct 2018 #17
onecaliberal Oct 2018 #18
PubliusEnigma Oct 2018 #19
LastLiberal in PalmSprings Oct 2018 #20
roamer65 Oct 2018 #21
rurallib Oct 2018 #32
grantcart Oct 2018 #22
Eliot Rosewater Oct 2018 #27
Sugar Smack Oct 2018 #28
Hoyt Oct 2018 #30
enid602 Oct 2018 #33
onecaliberal Oct 2018 #36
jcgoldie Oct 2018 #38
moondust Oct 2018 #39
Takket Oct 2018 #41

Response to onecaliberal (Original post)

Mon Oct 1, 2018, 02:18 PM

1. At some point, you've got to wonder what Roberts is thinking. And if he's sent any signals. n/t

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Response to onecaliberal (Original post)

Mon Oct 1, 2018, 02:20 PM

2. What is their usual schedule?

Do they work after 5 pm? He won't be able to do it, right? Is there a penalty for being drunk on the job at the Supreme Court? Maybe rules that apply to all federal judges?

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Response to greymattermom (Reply #2)

Mon Oct 1, 2018, 05:02 PM

29. Fun fact. SCOTUS has no code of conduct or ethics. Why? No idea. No other fed Court without one!

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Response to Fred Sanders (Reply #29)

Mon Oct 1, 2018, 07:42 PM

34. Wow, that is surprising.

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Response to onecaliberal (Original post)

Mon Oct 1, 2018, 02:20 PM

3. The term is "active alcoholic" not "practicing alcoholic"

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Response to DonViejo (Reply #3)

Mon Oct 1, 2018, 02:21 PM

4. I have 27 years, thanks

In these parts we say practicing.

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Response to onecaliberal (Reply #4)

Mon Oct 1, 2018, 02:31 PM

10. I have 42 years, thanks...

And I've worked as a counselor in detox and a half-way house; we refer to it as active.

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Response to DonViejo (Reply #10)

Mon Oct 1, 2018, 02:56 PM

13. Good for you!

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Response to DonViejo (Reply #10)

Mon Oct 1, 2018, 04:40 PM

25. Maybe it's a regional terminology, like many words are. n/t

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Response to onecaliberal (Reply #4)

Mon Oct 1, 2018, 05:13 PM

31. "Practicing" makes me think they have to keep doing it until they get it right

The thought kind of amused me, sorry.

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Response to onecaliberal (Original post)

Mon Oct 1, 2018, 02:22 PM

5. I'm sure they likely

already have several.

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Response to SoCalNative (Reply #5)

Mon Oct 1, 2018, 02:27 PM

7. I think we would hear about it and if we haven't, something tells me we will now.

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Response to onecaliberal (Original post)

Mon Oct 1, 2018, 02:27 PM

6. I have a good friend who is a recovering alcoholic.

He has been in and out of rehab multiple times (and possibly a fourth). And hasn't been able to get a job in several years because of it. It's definitely a disease and there's no easy fix for it. But to confirm Kavanaugh after all this would definitely be an insult to addicts.

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Response to Initech (Reply #6)

Mon Oct 1, 2018, 02:28 PM

9. It's not a job he should get to have.

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Response to onecaliberal (Original post)

Mon Oct 1, 2018, 02:28 PM

8. I am a family member, I grew up with one.

Nothing I repeat NOTHING would convince me that this was a good idea.

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Response to onecaliberal (Original post)

Mon Oct 1, 2018, 02:40 PM

11. I'm Pretty Sure

it wouldn’t be the first time.

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Response to onecaliberal (Original post)

Mon Oct 1, 2018, 02:54 PM

12. Is there any proof that Kavanaugh is a practicing alcoholic?

If he is you would think that it would be one of the most poorly kept secrets in Washington.

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Response to elocs (Reply #12)

Mon Oct 1, 2018, 02:59 PM

15. He likes beer - he still likes beer - What beer do you like?

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Response to lame54 (Reply #15)

Mon Oct 1, 2018, 04:19 PM

23. And this is considered a good thing

by many of the Cons! I mean, who doesn't like beer?!?

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Response to elocs (Reply #12)

Mon Oct 1, 2018, 03:00 PM

16. It doesn't seem to be a secret. Folks are coming forward to talk about him.

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Response to onecaliberal (Reply #16)

Mon Oct 1, 2018, 04:38 PM

24. They're not talking about his excessive drinking now

but back in high school. Just liking beer does not make someone an alcoholic.

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Response to elocs (Reply #24)

Mon Oct 1, 2018, 07:44 PM

35. There is another allegation about him shoving a woman against a wall in a sexual manner that

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Did not happen in high school.

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Response to onecaliberal (Reply #35)

Mon Oct 1, 2018, 09:11 PM

37. And this points to alcoholism

how?

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Response to elocs (Reply #37)

Tue Oct 2, 2018, 07:44 PM

40. Really? Have you not been paying attention.

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Response to elocs (Reply #12)

Mon Oct 1, 2018, 04:44 PM

26. The ABA says about 1 in 5 lawyers is a problem drinker -- about twice the national rate.

And given what he know about his history, and how he behaved in the hearing (as if he'd had a few), and how often he snarled and said he LIKED beer, why should we think he isn't among the 20%?

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Response to onecaliberal (Original post)

Mon Oct 1, 2018, 02:58 PM

14. I'm sure he's seasoned by now

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Response to onecaliberal (Original post)

Mon Oct 1, 2018, 03:01 PM

17. Only if Kavanawful is confirmed

I refuse to accept that as a done deal. Indeed, the longer the vote is postponed, the better the chances are that the nomination will find a way to be withdrawn. The only reason he hasn't been confirmed yet is that enough sitting Republicans have let McTurtle know they can't go through with voting yes. If McTurtle had 50 solid votes for confirmation, the discussion would already be over and the vote held.

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Response to DFW (Reply #17)

Mon Oct 1, 2018, 03:03 PM

18. We will see what happens on Friday.

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Response to onecaliberal (Original post)

Mon Oct 1, 2018, 03:08 PM

19. When did you give up?

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Response to onecaliberal (Original post)

Mon Oct 1, 2018, 04:14 PM

20. Why not? The U.S. already has a "dry drunk" in the WH.

Here are some characteristics of a dry drunk:

Grandiosity/Superiority – A dry drunk is self-centered.

A constant need to be the center of attention.

Acting better or smarter than everyone else around them.

Playing the “victim.”

Believing that they are so unique that no one could possibly ever relate to them.

Impulsivity– Again, in much the same way as during active addiction, the dry drunk is unable to delay gratification. They want what they want when they want it, regardless of the consequences.

Judgmental –Believing that they are superior, dry drunks will see everything and everyone around them as polar opposites – “Black or White” or “good or bad”, with emphasis on negativity.

Intolerance –Related to superiority, dry drunks refuse to hear opinions or suggestions from anyone else. In their minds, they ALWAYS know best.

Isolation –Dry drunks look for and magnify differences between themselves and those around them. This “separation mentality” can leave the individual without a strong support system.

Boredom/Dissatisfaction – After the initial “rush” of newly-rediscovered sobriety, a person can get bored when they settle into a routine. When their sober life isn’t instantly perfect, they may even start to wonder why they got sober in the first place.

Nostalgia –A dry drunk starts reminiscing – inaccurately – about the “fun” that they used to have – freedom, drinking/drug buddies, lack of responsibilities, etc.

Mood Swings– As all of these symptoms start to come together, the dry drunk can start to become emotionally listless and aloof – as if nothing matters to them or makes a difference. Alternately, they can overreact and blow up with very little provocation.

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Donnie Two Scoops doesn't need to be in the WH, he needs to be in a Twelve Step program.

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Response to onecaliberal (Original post)

Mon Oct 1, 2018, 04:16 PM

21. ...and 2 sexual predators.

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Response to roamer65 (Reply #21)

Mon Oct 1, 2018, 05:15 PM

32. and some very partisan members

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Response to onecaliberal (Original post)

Mon Oct 1, 2018, 04:17 PM

22. He is beyond practicing he is pro

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Response to onecaliberal (Original post)

Mon Oct 1, 2018, 04:46 PM

27. Who has said what goes around comes around so no democrat or liberal will

ever bother going before the court now

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Response to onecaliberal (Original post)

Mon Oct 1, 2018, 04:52 PM

28. Kavanaugh's on a greased slide to "wet brain".

The only thing that woke him up after drinking that day was probably doing coke. We were all watching his nose.

Hearing his explosive, hostile interruptions.

Also, those facial expressions he was making (after drinking- related questions) were disturbing. It was as if he was saying, "YEAH, GOTCHA". That stuck me as really regressive behavior.

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Response to onecaliberal (Original post)

Mon Oct 1, 2018, 05:07 PM

30. Agree with your comments, but suspect Kav would not be the only alcoholic on the Court.

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Response to onecaliberal (Original post)

Mon Oct 1, 2018, 05:48 PM

33. MADJ

Well, let me be the first to koin Mothers against Drunk Judges.

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Response to enid602 (Reply #33)

Mon Oct 1, 2018, 07:46 PM

36. Hear, hear

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Response to onecaliberal (Original post)

Mon Oct 1, 2018, 09:15 PM

38. I don't think that's nearly as big of a problem as...

Having an attempted rapist on the supreme court.

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Response to onecaliberal (Original post)

Mon Oct 1, 2018, 10:05 PM

39. Thank Gosh he doesn't drink hard liquor!

Just beer beer beer beer beer beer beer beer beer beer. Fun-loving beer!

I repeat--no hard liquor. He didn't say a word about hard liquor. Hard liquor is the stuff that makes you go crazy, assault women, puke, pass out next to the toilet, and wake up unable to recall where you went or how you got there. No hard liquor.

Just beer beer beer beer beer beer beer beer beer beer. Fun-loving beer!

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Response to onecaliberal (Original post)

Tue Oct 2, 2018, 07:48 PM

41. and a rapist..............

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