Tue Oct 2, 2018, 08:01 PM
Flaleftist (3,470 posts)
If Flake has 2020 ambitions, is he screwed no matter how he votes on Kanenaugh?
If he votes no, that should piss off a lot of Republicans. If he votes yes, that should piss of a lot of independents and motivate Democrats. If he is only thinking politically , what would be in his best interest?
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Flaleftist | Oct 2018 | OP |
Marie Marie | Oct 2018 | #1 | |
brush | Oct 2018 | #16 | |
marylandblue | Oct 2018 | #2 | |
Wellstone ruled | Oct 2018 | #3 | |
rurallib | Oct 2018 | #6 | |
Wellstone ruled | Oct 2018 | #10 | |
Taraman | Oct 2018 | #4 | |
Anon-C | Oct 2018 | #5 | |
msongs | Oct 2018 | #7 | |
rurallib | Oct 2018 | #8 | |
ooky | Oct 2018 | #9 | |
grantcart | Oct 2018 | #11 | |
dogman | Oct 2018 | #12 | |
cynatnite | Oct 2018 | #13 | |
Stuckinthebush | Oct 2018 | #14 | |
Awsi Dooger | Oct 2018 | #15 |
Response to Flaleftist (Original post)
Tue Oct 2, 2018, 08:06 PM
Marie Marie (9,999 posts)
1. No way would he win either way.
He would, of course, run as a Republican and they would never vote for him. The Dems won't either - they have their own better candidates. Independents wouldn't have the votes for a win. He should just do the right thing and get on with his life - out of politics.
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Response to Marie Marie (Reply #1)
Tue Oct 2, 2018, 09:37 PM
brush (43,185 posts)
16. Flake's timing is off and he's fooling himself if he thinks the repugs will welcome a primary...
challenger to trump.
He better find something to do until 2024. |
Response to Flaleftist (Original post)
Tue Oct 2, 2018, 08:09 PM
marylandblue (12,344 posts)
2. He had no chance before, he has no chance now
But he thinks what he does might make a difference. But I have no idea which meaningless choice he thinks is better for him.
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Response to Flaleftist (Original post)
Tue Oct 2, 2018, 08:14 PM
Wellstone ruled (34,661 posts)
3. Try this
Romney and Flake.
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Response to Wellstone ruled (Reply #3)
Tue Oct 2, 2018, 08:22 PM
rurallib (59,475 posts)
6. Two Mormons? Probably should have another religion, like a Catholic
Flake and Kavanaugh
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Response to rurallib (Reply #6)
Tue Oct 2, 2018, 08:31 PM
Wellstone ruled (34,661 posts)
10. The White Knight theory.
Romney will surface and start his campaign next year after the Mid Terms and he is seated in his Senate Seat.
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Response to Flaleftist (Original post)
Tue Oct 2, 2018, 08:16 PM
Taraman (340 posts)
4. Like Mitt Romney, he thinks he'll be the one to ride in on a white horse
and save the country and party. I honestly don't know, at this point, what will become of either of those, but if he's honestly trying, I'll accept any help we can get.
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Response to Flaleftist (Original post)
Tue Oct 2, 2018, 08:19 PM
Anon-C (3,345 posts)
5. Not if he votes for Kavanaugh, if he tosses his goodwill even for these so called leftists women
...then why run?
His attractiveness as a GOP primary candidate would be as an alternative to an increasingly radioactive Trump. His chief selling point would be his pull with independents and women Trump alienates - so what would he gain by voting yes? If he votes yes, he's not running for president. |
Response to Flaleftist (Original post)
Tue Oct 2, 2018, 08:24 PM
msongs (64,190 posts)
7. he seems to be a man whose morals are dependant on the benefit to himself nt
Response to Flaleftist (Original post)
Tue Oct 2, 2018, 08:24 PM
rurallib (59,475 posts)
8. Flake is screwed either way - but his best chance would be to vote no
to at least show some daylight between him and Trump.
BUT ...... I bet Kasich is loving it. |
Response to Flaleftist (Original post)
Tue Oct 2, 2018, 08:30 PM
ooky (7,399 posts)
9. He's a politician without a party, so
yes, he is screwed no matter how he votes on Kavanaugh.
Unpopular in his own state, the party of Trump is not going to vote for him, and there is no home in the democratic party for his conservative views or voting record. Its hard to see him being on any ticket that has a realistic shot at the presidency. |
Response to Flaleftist (Original post)
Tue Oct 2, 2018, 08:34 PM
grantcart (51,749 posts)
11. Flake is dead man walking
He has no constituency. No large group of Republicans are invested in him. No Democrats consider his actions to match his statements. He tried to be too clever by half. If he was going to go against Trump he should have gone full blast, never Trump and denouncing him frequently and voting against him, even leaving the Republican caucus. |
Response to Flaleftist (Original post)
Tue Oct 2, 2018, 08:37 PM
dogman (6,073 posts)
12. Kasich expressed support for his position.
Kasich-Flake might be a ticket to oppose T-Rump. Kasich has been opposing him for a while. They wont win, it's the party of trump now.
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Response to Flaleftist (Original post)
Tue Oct 2, 2018, 08:51 PM
cynatnite (31,011 posts)
13. He had to be shamed into doing somewhat the right thing...
He's weak.
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Response to Flaleftist (Original post)
Tue Oct 2, 2018, 08:57 PM
Stuckinthebush (10,679 posts)
14. If he plays this right, then he can work it
If he votes yes then he gets the applause from the GOP but the Trumpian base will never forgive him. He wouldn’t survive a primary.
If he votes no he pisses of the gop and the Trump voters are apoplectic. He will get more death threats and idiots in red hats screaming at him. But a no vote after a very public conflicted Flake talks longingly of a softer time will give him independents and centrists Dems. He won’t be a presidential candidate but could be part of a combo ticket with a liberal Dem. It is a long shot but a better shot than a yes vote. |
Response to Flaleftist (Original post)
Tue Oct 2, 2018, 09:06 PM
Awsi Dooger (14,565 posts)
15. He's like the Republican version of Terry McAuliffe
Kidding himself. Absolutely no chance given current priorities of his party at presidential nominating level
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