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Tue Oct 2, 2018, 08:47 PM

Never heard of this

My mother was put in a nursing home. She is 90 years old. The nursing home has lost her teeth. She likes coloring books and every time they are gone. Her clothes is missing. They have her checking account. They told the court she does not have any next of kin. They did not file so she lost her medicaid. Now they have a lawyer trying to be her guardian. A for profit business has no right being anyone's guardian. She gets 70 dollars for her pension and her social security check. They are concerned about the burial deeds. Grave robbers. I have file to be guardian but getting the money together this year has been a challenge. Just got my income tax refund back. Filed in April. Anyone else had this problem?
They served her the summons today. I went there after work and took my i pad recorded my conversation with her and asked her if she had anyone visit her today and the answer was no. She had wrote over the papers, circled the lawyers name,underlined it wrote bad. Can the serve papers to someone who can't remember or understand what is wriitten on them?

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Reply Never heard of this (Original post)
Bear Creek Oct 2018 OP
Demovictory9 Oct 2018 #1
Hoyt Oct 2018 #2
catrose Oct 2018 #3
Blue_true Oct 2018 #4
JoeOtterbein Oct 2018 #5
DesertRat Oct 2018 #6
Bear Creek Oct 2018 #9
JoeOtterbein Oct 2018 #10
JoeOtterbein Oct 2018 #11
blueinredohio Oct 2018 #7
Bear Creek Oct 2018 #8
Bear Creek Oct 2018 #12
keithbvadu2 Oct 2018 #13
Bear Creek Oct 2018 #16
keithbvadu2 Oct 2018 #14
Bear Creek Oct 2018 #15
Bear Creek Oct 2018 #17

Response to Bear Creek (Original post)

Tue Oct 2, 2018, 08:53 PM

1. yes. There are people who do this as a business. Look for elderly people to "guard".

it was a big news story a few year ago in california. They look for elderly, on their own, with assets and file with a judge to become heir guardians. Then suck them dry.

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Response to Bear Creek (Original post)

Tue Oct 2, 2018, 08:56 PM

2. Bear, I'd try to find an Elder Law Attorney in your area.

You can probably find one who will at least talk to you initially without a fee. Attorneys specializing in Family Law can help too.

Let us know how it goes.

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Response to Hoyt (Reply #2)

Tue Oct 2, 2018, 08:58 PM

3. There might be an elder advocacy organization with a lawyer on staff

In my area it's called Elder Care.

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Response to Bear Creek (Original post)

Tue Oct 2, 2018, 09:02 PM

4. Look up a legal aid group in your area, one that works with poor people (trustworthy).

Let them know up front that money is tight for you. They can likely find you a free attorney (pro bono) or one that will fight your case for a reasonable fee and allow you to pay in installments.

Good luck.

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Response to Bear Creek (Original post)

Tue Oct 2, 2018, 09:24 PM

5. Report this to your local Area Agency on Aging. Below is the link that will find the local office:

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Response to JoeOtterbein (Reply #5)

Tue Oct 2, 2018, 09:26 PM

6. +1

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Response to JoeOtterbein (Reply #5)

Tue Oct 2, 2018, 09:51 PM

9. Thanks

Sent email. No offices for this area though.

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Response to Bear Creek (Reply #9)

Tue Oct 2, 2018, 09:53 PM

10. You are very welcome and

please take care Bear.

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Response to Bear Creek (Reply #9)

Tue Oct 2, 2018, 09:55 PM

11. Be sure to check for a state AAA.

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Response to Bear Creek (Original post)

Tue Oct 2, 2018, 09:28 PM

7. Call your ombudsmen. Every state has one.

the nursing home is supposed to have a paper hanging some where in public view with all the information on it. That's what these people are for.

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Response to blueinredohio (Reply #7)

Tue Oct 2, 2018, 09:50 PM

8. Thanks

I will do that.

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Response to Bear Creek (Original post)

Tue Oct 2, 2018, 09:57 PM

12. Thanks everyone

Beside myself to figure out what to do. I had talked to a lawyer that specialized in elder law earlier and said that with no estate and no life insurance that there wouldn't be a need. I went to another one filed just now got the money to finish paying him. Then this.

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Response to Bear Creek (Original post)

Tue Oct 2, 2018, 11:40 PM

13. How the Elderly Lose Their Rights (Guardians and custodians become the 'owners' of seniors and thei

How the Elderly Lose Their Rights

(Guardians and custodians become the 'owners' of seniors and their assets)

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2017/10/09/how-the-elderly-lose-their-rights

Guardians can sell the assets and control the lives of senior citizens without their consent—and reap a profit from it.

(One thing you can believe is that these slimy bast_rds are not trying to become guardians of poor people)
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“You can’t just walk into somebody’s home and take them!” Belshe told her.

Parks responded calmly, “It’s legal. It’s legal.”

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Response to keithbvadu2 (Reply #13)

Wed Oct 3, 2018, 04:19 AM

16. This one is

She does not have anything. They want the burial plots where my Grandfather and my Granddaughter are buried.

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Response to Bear Creek (Original post)

Tue Oct 2, 2018, 11:43 PM

14. Can your nursing home 'own' you?

Can your nursing home 'own' you?

does anyone think that the nursing home is interested in the welfare of the patient or the welfare of the patient's money?

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But one day last summer, after he disputed nursing home bills that had suddenly doubled Mrs. Palermo’s copays, and complained about inexperienced employees who dropped his wife on the floor, Mr. Palermo was shocked to find a six-page legal document waiting on her bed.

It was a guardianship petition filed by the nursing home, Mary Manning Walsh, asking the court to give a stranger full legal power over Mrs. Palermo, now 90, and complete control of her money.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/01/26/nyregion/to-collect-debts-nursing-home-seizing-control-over-patients.html?action=click&pgtype=Homepage&_r=1

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Response to keithbvadu2 (Reply #14)

Wed Oct 3, 2018, 04:18 AM

15. My thoughts also

I am going to my lawyer this morning. This needs to be made illegal.

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Response to keithbvadu2 (Reply #14)

Wed Oct 3, 2018, 04:26 AM

17. Also on top

It seems to be the republican way of they want to re coop money. That is the only thing they care about. That is their true god. The burial plots according to what I have seen on state of Ohio websites are supposed to be exempt.

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