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WhiskeyGrinder

(22,327 posts)
Thu Oct 4, 2018, 04:09 PM Oct 2018

'People' Aren't Divided on Kavanaugh's Confirmation. White People Are.

https://www.theroot.com/people-arent-divided-on-kavanaughs-confirmation-white-1829524632

Those results would reveal that 83 percent of black and 66 percent of Latinx voters believe Blasey Ford, compared to a mere 40 percent of white voters. And that 80 percent of black and 69 percent of Latinx voters considered her honest compared to just 54 percent of white voters.

This gap persists even when you isolate out white women, a demographic some pundits believed would be outraged at how Blasey Ford was treated by Senate Republicans (her testimony—deemed “credible” by Republican members of the Senate Judiciary Committee—was essentially thrown out once Kavanaugh began rage-crying).

According to the Quinnipiac poll, nearly half (47 percent) of white women considered Kavanaugh to be honest. The numbers for black and Latinx voters? Just 7 percent and 34 percent, respectively. A plurality of white women did believe Blasey Ford (46 percent)—but it was nowhere near the majority, as was the case with black and Latinx voters.

As we see with the Quinnipiac poll, an inability to look at racial dynamics, whether it be through benign ignorance or outright reluctance, affects the stories we tell. It also affects the credibility and accuracy of the stories we tell, which is to say, you simply can’t get quality coverage of American politics without it.


In the aggregate, white women tend to be motivated by holding onto a little power at the expense of WOC. There is much work to be done.
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'People' Aren't Divided on Kavanaugh's Confirmation. White People Are. (Original Post) WhiskeyGrinder Oct 2018 OP
Your comment, saidsimplesimon Oct 2018 #1
"I am not one of the above." WhiskeyGrinder Oct 2018 #2
As usual, the broad brush deniers. Solomon Oct 2018 #3
Not all white women EffieBlack Oct 2018 #11
Or you could say "Republican supporting White people", rather than insulting your fellow DUers. OnDoutside Oct 2018 #4
Thank you, yes. n/t phylny Oct 2018 #5
Sometimes I think about wording things in such a way so people can easily see how they themselves WhiskeyGrinder Oct 2018 #6
About that sig line melman Oct 2018 #7
I wish I knew how to separate the four sentences, because they're not meant to be connected. WhiskeyGrinder Oct 2018 #8
It's about us. All of us. Each of us. violetpastille Oct 2018 #17
Well said. WhiskeyGrinder Oct 2018 #18
Black voters are the smartest voters in the country. Blue_true Oct 2018 #9
THIS THIS THIS!!! EffieBlack Oct 2018 #10
This is true irisblue Oct 2018 #12
Basically, Republicans support Kavanaugh and Democrats don't. Garrett78 Oct 2018 #13
My mother is defending Kavanaugh shanti Oct 2018 #14
White women who don't believe Dr. Ford - where are you hiding? FakeNoose Oct 2018 #15
There's still time to make things right. ecstatic Oct 2018 #16
i think it's more about about not really caring whether she is telling the truth JI7 Oct 2018 #19
Bingo MrScorpio Oct 2018 #20

saidsimplesimon

(7,888 posts)
1. Your comment,
Thu Oct 4, 2018, 04:19 PM
Oct 2018

"In the aggregate, white women tend to be motivated by holding onto a little power at the expense of WOC. There is much work to be done."

I am not one of the above. Yes, much work to be done, please don't paint all of US with the same broad brush. Women can change the course of an election, for better or worse. If we have the support of the majority of women, we can win the prize, equal pay for equal work. imo

WhiskeyGrinder

(22,327 posts)
6. Sometimes I think about wording things in such a way so people can easily see how they themselves
Thu Oct 4, 2018, 05:49 PM
Oct 2018

are explicitly excluded from the topic at hand, so they don't feel the need to take the time to tell everyone how they're not included, but for this particular article, "white people who haven't identified with a party because that wasn't broken out in the article but are probably Republican but could also be independent or even Democratic because 'one true Scotsman' is a fallacy oh god what wording can I use so white people who don't actually do whatever this poll says the majority of them do don't get hung up on #notallwhitepeople and actually consider what these numbers might mean for big-picture change and progress" doesn't really fit in the subject line for the OP.

 

melman

(7,681 posts)
7. About that sig line
Thu Oct 4, 2018, 05:57 PM
Oct 2018

It says 'if my post is not about you, it's not about you. hit dogs holler.'

This is daring people to be offended and then saying it's their fault if they are. It's deliberately inflammatory. Just as the language in the OP was.

WhiskeyGrinder

(22,327 posts)
8. I wish I knew how to separate the four sentences, because they're not meant to be connected.
Thu Oct 4, 2018, 06:00 PM
Oct 2018

I'll try some reformatting. Thanks!

violetpastille

(1,483 posts)
17. It's about us. All of us. Each of us.
Thu Oct 4, 2018, 07:23 PM
Oct 2018

"In the aggregate, white women tend to be motivated by holding onto a little power at the expense of WOC."

This is just truth. It's ugly but it just is.

#yesallwhitepeople.

This is not a user preference we can opt out of. We are in this system. We benefit. This applies to us. All of us.

WhiskeyGrinder

(22,327 posts)
18. Well said.
Thu Oct 4, 2018, 07:28 PM
Oct 2018
This is not a user preference we can opt out of. We are in this system. We benefit. This applies to us. All of us.


Saying it again so people can read it and sit with it.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
9. Black voters are the smartest voters in the country.
Thu Oct 4, 2018, 06:08 PM
Oct 2018

Time and time again, they are the only group that always get it right. Asians run a close second.

Garrett78

(10,721 posts)
13. Basically, Republicans support Kavanaugh and Democrats don't.
Thu Oct 4, 2018, 06:43 PM
Oct 2018

Those percentages are pretty much in line with the demographic breakdown by party.

A majority of white people can't seem to view anything through an equity or justice lens.

shanti

(21,675 posts)
14. My mother is defending Kavanaugh
Thu Oct 4, 2018, 06:47 PM
Oct 2018

my white, 86 yr old, lifelong Dem, feminist, former RN mother. I was aghast when I heard, but mother has advanced dementia now, so I will blame it on that. It kills me though!

FakeNoose

(32,634 posts)
15. White women who don't believe Dr. Ford - where are you hiding?
Thu Oct 4, 2018, 06:59 PM
Oct 2018

I don't know a single white women who doesn't believe her. To say it another way, EVERY white women I've seen or spoken to in the last week DOES believe her.

This Quinnipiac poll can't be correct, and I think they must be asking the wrong question. They should ask it this way:
Do you believe Dr. Christine Ford, and DOES IT MATTER in the nomination of Brett Kavanaugh?

Anyone who answers "no" will be showing their right-wing bias.

ecstatic

(32,685 posts)
16. There's still time to make things right.
Thu Oct 4, 2018, 07:07 PM
Oct 2018

This nation will NOT survive in it's current format if the Democrats don't win control this November. It's not just democracy on the line--race relations, etc. will be irreparable if things don't change course. Really the only option left will be mass secession.

JI7

(89,247 posts)
19. i think it's more about about not really caring whether she is telling the truth
Thu Oct 4, 2018, 08:39 PM
Oct 2018

if he was a non white male they would have no problem believing it.

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