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Thu Oct 4, 2018, 04:09 PM

'People' Aren't Divided on Kavanaugh's Confirmation. White People Are.

https://www.theroot.com/people-arent-divided-on-kavanaughs-confirmation-white-1829524632

Those results would reveal that 83 percent of black and 66 percent of Latinx voters believe Blasey Ford, compared to a mere 40 percent of white voters. And that 80 percent of black and 69 percent of Latinx voters considered her honest compared to just 54 percent of white voters.

This gap persists even when you isolate out white women, a demographic some pundits believed would be outraged at how Blasey Ford was treated by Senate Republicans (her testimony—deemed “credible” by Republican members of the Senate Judiciary Committee—was essentially thrown out once Kavanaugh began rage-crying).

According to the Quinnipiac poll, nearly half (47 percent) of white women considered Kavanaugh to be honest. The numbers for black and Latinx voters? Just 7 percent and 34 percent, respectively. A plurality of white women did believe Blasey Ford (46 percent)—but it was nowhere near the majority, as was the case with black and Latinx voters.

As we see with the Quinnipiac poll, an inability to look at racial dynamics, whether it be through benign ignorance or outright reluctance, affects the stories we tell. It also affects the credibility and accuracy of the stories we tell, which is to say, you simply can’t get quality coverage of American politics without it.


In the aggregate, white women tend to be motivated by holding onto a little power at the expense of WOC. There is much work to be done.

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Reply 'People' Aren't Divided on Kavanaugh's Confirmation. White People Are. (Original post)
WhiskeyGrinder Oct 2018 OP
saidsimplesimon Oct 2018 #1
WhiskeyGrinder Oct 2018 #2
Solomon Oct 2018 #3
EffieBlack Oct 2018 #11
OnDoutside Oct 2018 #4
phylny Oct 2018 #5
WhiskeyGrinder Oct 2018 #6
melman Oct 2018 #7
WhiskeyGrinder Oct 2018 #8
violetpastille Oct 2018 #17
WhiskeyGrinder Oct 2018 #18
Blue_true Oct 2018 #9
EffieBlack Oct 2018 #10
irisblue Oct 2018 #12
Garrett78 Oct 2018 #13
shanti Oct 2018 #14
FakeNoose Oct 2018 #15
ecstatic Oct 2018 #16
JI7 Oct 2018 #19
MrScorpio Oct 2018 #20

Response to WhiskeyGrinder (Original post)

Thu Oct 4, 2018, 04:19 PM

1. Your comment,

"In the aggregate, white women tend to be motivated by holding onto a little power at the expense of WOC. There is much work to be done."

I am not one of the above. Yes, much work to be done, please don't paint all of US with the same broad brush. Women can change the course of an election, for better or worse. If we have the support of the majority of women, we can win the prize, equal pay for equal work. imo

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Response to saidsimplesimon (Reply #1)

Thu Oct 4, 2018, 04:58 PM

2. "I am not one of the above."

Please see my sig line. If my post is not about you, it's not about you.

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Response to WhiskeyGrinder (Reply #2)

Thu Oct 4, 2018, 05:10 PM

3. As usual, the broad brush deniers.

Always.

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Response to Solomon (Reply #3)

Thu Oct 4, 2018, 06:13 PM

11. Not all white women

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Response to WhiskeyGrinder (Reply #2)

Thu Oct 4, 2018, 05:28 PM

4. Or you could say "Republican supporting White people", rather than insulting your fellow DUers.

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Response to OnDoutside (Reply #4)

Thu Oct 4, 2018, 05:31 PM

5. Thank you, yes. n/t

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Response to OnDoutside (Reply #4)

Thu Oct 4, 2018, 05:49 PM

6. Sometimes I think about wording things in such a way so people can easily see how they themselves

are explicitly excluded from the topic at hand, so they don't feel the need to take the time to tell everyone how they're not included, but for this particular article, "white people who haven't identified with a party because that wasn't broken out in the article but are probably Republican but could also be independent or even Democratic because 'one true Scotsman' is a fallacy oh god what wording can I use so white people who don't actually do whatever this poll says the majority of them do don't get hung up on #notallwhitepeople and actually consider what these numbers might mean for big-picture change and progress" doesn't really fit in the subject line for the OP.

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Response to WhiskeyGrinder (Reply #2)

Thu Oct 4, 2018, 05:57 PM

7. About that sig line

It says 'if my post is not about you, it's not about you. hit dogs holler.'

This is daring people to be offended and then saying it's their fault if they are. It's deliberately inflammatory. Just as the language in the OP was.

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Response to melman (Reply #7)

Thu Oct 4, 2018, 06:00 PM

8. I wish I knew how to separate the four sentences, because they're not meant to be connected.

I'll try some reformatting. Thanks!

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Response to WhiskeyGrinder (Reply #2)

Thu Oct 4, 2018, 07:23 PM

17. It's about us. All of us. Each of us.

"In the aggregate, white women tend to be motivated by holding onto a little power at the expense of WOC."

This is just truth. It's ugly but it just is.

#yesallwhitepeople.

This is not a user preference we can opt out of. We are in this system. We benefit. This applies to us. All of us.

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Response to violetpastille (Reply #17)

Thu Oct 4, 2018, 07:28 PM

18. Well said.

This is not a user preference we can opt out of. We are in this system. We benefit. This applies to us. All of us.


Saying it again so people can read it and sit with it.

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Response to WhiskeyGrinder (Original post)

Thu Oct 4, 2018, 06:08 PM

9. Black voters are the smartest voters in the country.

Time and time again, they are the only group that always get it right. Asians run a close second.

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Response to WhiskeyGrinder (Original post)

Thu Oct 4, 2018, 06:12 PM

10. THIS THIS THIS!!!

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Response to WhiskeyGrinder (Original post)

Thu Oct 4, 2018, 06:21 PM

12. This is true

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Response to WhiskeyGrinder (Original post)

Thu Oct 4, 2018, 06:43 PM

13. Basically, Republicans support Kavanaugh and Democrats don't.

Those percentages are pretty much in line with the demographic breakdown by party.

A majority of white people can't seem to view anything through an equity or justice lens.

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Response to WhiskeyGrinder (Original post)

Thu Oct 4, 2018, 06:47 PM

14. My mother is defending Kavanaugh

my white, 86 yr old, lifelong Dem, feminist, former RN mother. I was aghast when I heard, but mother has advanced dementia now, so I will blame it on that. It kills me though!

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Response to WhiskeyGrinder (Original post)

Thu Oct 4, 2018, 06:59 PM

15. White women who don't believe Dr. Ford - where are you hiding?

I don't know a single white women who doesn't believe her. To say it another way, EVERY white women I've seen or spoken to in the last week DOES believe her.

This Quinnipiac poll can't be correct, and I think they must be asking the wrong question. They should ask it this way:
Do you believe Dr. Christine Ford, and DOES IT MATTER in the nomination of Brett Kavanaugh?

Anyone who answers "no" will be showing their right-wing bias.

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Response to WhiskeyGrinder (Original post)

Thu Oct 4, 2018, 07:07 PM

16. There's still time to make things right.

This nation will NOT survive in it's current format if the Democrats don't win control this November. It's not just democracy on the line--race relations, etc. will be irreparable if things don't change course. Really the only option left will be mass secession.

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Response to WhiskeyGrinder (Original post)

Thu Oct 4, 2018, 08:39 PM

19. i think it's more about about not really caring whether she is telling the truth

if he was a non white male they would have no problem believing it.

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Response to WhiskeyGrinder (Original post)

Thu Oct 4, 2018, 08:45 PM

20. Bingo

That much is pretty obvious.

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