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Ahem. Demographics... (Original Post) Soph0571 Oct 2018 OP
that's why Trump got the support he did JI7 Oct 2018 #1
shhhh. you are scaring the white males. pansypoo53219 Oct 2018 #2
Some of them. Harker Oct 2018 #3
too many white males have not evolved yet. pansypoo53219 Oct 2018 #17
Agreed. Harker Oct 2018 #18
Many of us old Whites safeinOhio Oct 2018 #8
Thing is, lots of my school years growing up were in Hawaii. . . pdsimdars Oct 2018 #4
My first experience with having blacks in charge was in the Marines... Wounded Bear Oct 2018 #13
if i had to boil down the phenomenon barbtries Oct 2018 #5
"tired of being white." LOL pangaia Oct 2018 #14
And outlawing abortion greymattermom Oct 2018 #6
I think Roe v. Wade will be overturned before the 2020 election. Lonestarblue Oct 2018 #9
But. Blue_true Oct 2018 #7
Suppression of voting rights!! Gerrymandering!! Supported by SCOTUS appointed by GOP!! bobbieinok Oct 2018 #10
Which is why we need to protect what Democracy we have left... Wounded Bear Oct 2018 #11
I don't see this as helpful, actually. Honeycombe8 Oct 2018 #12
I think the point is well-taken. And I'm an old white male. pangaia Oct 2018 #15
Yes. Harker Oct 2018 #20
And let's not forget the person who was killed in Charlottesville was a white woman. Honeycombe8 Oct 2018 #21
Relying on demographics is going to lead to disappointment. Ace Rothstein Oct 2018 #16
None of that will matter if we don't stop the electoral college farce, move to popular vote system, ecstatic Oct 2018 #19
I wonder what it would take to change that? Or having 2 senators for every state? Honeycombe8 Oct 2018 #22

JI7

(89,173 posts)
1. that's why Trump got the support he did
Sat Oct 6, 2018, 06:59 AM
Oct 2018

many white people are "uncomfortable" with the demographic changes.

but the changes will continue to happen .

Harker

(13,870 posts)
18. Agreed.
Sat Oct 6, 2018, 05:46 PM
Oct 2018

I may not have changed very many mindsets in my life thus far, but I'll always try to end hatred.

It's not easy to struggle on thinking that the full benefits of one's labors might only be enjoyed by people as yet unborn, but hope keeps me going.

No one who confronts injustice is ever truly standing alone. Our strength and the value of our future lie in our diversity.

 

pdsimdars

(6,007 posts)
4. Thing is, lots of my school years growing up were in Hawaii. . .
Sat Oct 6, 2018, 08:21 AM
Oct 2018

and in Hawaii, I was the minority race. Almost all of my teachers were Asian. All of the authority figures in school were Asian. You get used to it. Nothing scary about it. Best teacher in my life was Miss Suyat. People are just people. Period.

Wounded Bear

(58,437 posts)
13. My first experience with having blacks in charge was in the Marines...
Sat Oct 6, 2018, 09:41 AM
Oct 2018

Not many officers at the time, but plenty of NCOs and SNCOs, many of whom were promoted in Vietnam.

Hey, if they had the stripes, you obeyed their orders. Just the way it was.

barbtries

(28,702 posts)
5. if i had to boil down the phenomenon
Sat Oct 6, 2018, 08:29 AM
Oct 2018

of the trump cult and the republicans' total abdication of their oaths into 2 words, those words are "white panic"

I welcome the day i'm no longer the majority. tired of being white.

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
14. "tired of being white." LOL
Sat Oct 6, 2018, 09:47 AM
Oct 2018

I'm not tired of being white. I'm just tired of almost everybody else in the town where I live being white.



Although, in the last few years I have seen and met, gradually, more and more people of a 'darker SKIN' persuasion and just different cultural backgrounds. In the park, around town. I love it. It is no issue here either, which is wonderful, as it is a pretty open community.. Humm..... on the other hand... I wonder when it will reach the point that there are TOO MANY who are not 'white.' Get my drift...

My ex-wife is Chinese.. She used t call this town "white bread village."

And she called P F CHANG's "Chinese food for white people," (Boy, ain't THAT the truth.)

I travel to Asia frequently, well..not frequently enough..... always feel more at home in South Korea, Japan (next month), Taiwan and China. many good friends.



Lonestarblue

(9,874 posts)
9. I think Roe v. Wade will be overturned before the 2020 election.
Sat Oct 6, 2018, 08:39 AM
Oct 2018

The law passed in Iowa outlawing abortion once a fetal heartbeat can be detected is one of the most restrictive in the nation and an Iowa judge has already stayed its enforcement, so it could go to the Supreme Republican Court quickly. Trump and Republicans will want this as a reelection strategy for 2020. If they succeed in overturning Roe, I think the best we can hope for is that states will not be prohibited from making their own laws. Abortion will still be available, but women will need to travel to blue states to get one, which will likely be impossible for poor women and women who cannot take time off from work or from caring for children or parents.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
7. But.
Sat Oct 6, 2018, 08:31 AM
Oct 2018

If people don't vote or allow purity bullshit to distract them from voting for the democratic nominee, it won't matter in the least.

Wounded Bear

(58,437 posts)
11. Which is why we need to protect what Democracy we have left...
Sat Oct 6, 2018, 09:37 AM
Oct 2018

The Repubs are trying to set up an apartheid state, where a small minority of white men control everything.

GOTV2018!

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
12. I don't see this as helpful, actually.
Sat Oct 6, 2018, 09:41 AM
Oct 2018

The Democratic Party actually has a lot of white males and white females. So it's false to paint the image of the Democratic Party as only brown or gay or whatever. It's everyone, including those who have been discriminated against.

It could have the effect of pushing away whites, when the party is misrepresented as being unfriendly to whites. And possibly revving up the base of the other side, if it's perceived as attacking not their positions on issues, but what they were born as.

The Democratic Party is about every income level but particularly to include the working and middle class, the economy, health care, senior programs, programs for the needy, the environment, climate change, civil rights, voting rights, the disenfranchised, legal immigration, unions, and other things. It includes everyone who cares about these issues.

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
15. I think the point is well-taken. And I'm an old white male.
Sat Oct 6, 2018, 09:48 AM
Oct 2018

On the other hand, there certainbly is truith in what you say.

Harker

(13,870 posts)
20. Yes.
Sun Oct 7, 2018, 08:38 PM
Oct 2018

Take a look at pictures of the civil rights marches of the sixties, as an example, and you'll see a richly diverse group of people working together for common goals.

Inclusivity and diversity should mean that nobody gets shunted off as excess baggage.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
21. And let's not forget the person who was killed in Charlottesville was a white woman.
Sun Oct 7, 2018, 10:09 PM
Oct 2018

She was peacefully protesting the neo-Nazis and alt-right, when she was murdered.

White men were killed in the civil rights fight.

We don't want the party to turn its back or not protect the interests of everyone, as long as they support the Platform. America is getting more diverse. The Democratic Party is the home of much of that diversity. That's a good thing. But it is also the home of millions of whites, many of whom have voted reliably Democratic for decades. If we don't continue to be their home, too, that's bad news. Besides, it would be against the Democratic Party's values.

Ace Rothstein

(3,099 posts)
16. Relying on demographics is going to lead to disappointment.
Sat Oct 6, 2018, 05:16 PM
Oct 2018

The demographic change isn't going to affect every state in the same way. Under our current system this may not matter at all in the next 20-40 years.

ecstatic

(32,566 posts)
19. None of that will matter if we don't stop the electoral college farce, move to popular vote system,
Sat Oct 6, 2018, 06:11 PM
Oct 2018

and get the proper representation that we all deserve!

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
22. I wonder what it would take to change that? Or having 2 senators for every state?
Sun Oct 7, 2018, 10:11 PM
Oct 2018

I have more of a problem with every state having 2 senators than the EC. This gives a small population area equal power to tens of millions in another area.

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