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Stuart G

(38,410 posts)
Mon Aug 13, 2012, 04:21 PM Aug 2012

We are so euphoric about these idiots..Let us think again.. Reagan was an idiot too.

Being overconfident is a mistake we cannot make. Under 100 days left, anything can happen, and we need to be prepared that
these people will be playing very very dirty. Because they will. We ain't seen nothing yet....They are awful, mean, and vicious beyond belief.

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We are so euphoric about these idiots..Let us think again.. Reagan was an idiot too. (Original Post) Stuart G Aug 2012 OP
Yup, he was an idiot... joeybee12 Aug 2012 #1
it is good to remember they're idiots with a billion-dollar super-PAC propaganda bazooka phantom power Aug 2012 #2
Exactly. n/t pnwmom Aug 2012 #3
If they think they can win..with a couple of weeks to go..these rich guys will.. Stuart G Aug 2012 #6
agreed. Citizens United threw out all the rules, and Republicans have shown they will do anything spooky3 Aug 2012 #15
All they want are candidates who appeal to the LCD (and the rich, of course) WI_DEM Aug 2012 #4
This pair of weasles ... 99Forever Aug 2012 #5
My mother JustAnotherGen Aug 2012 #10
Yes, I am not wringing my hands. I do think we will probably win. and maybe big.. Stuart G Aug 2012 #12
I agree JustAnotherGen Aug 2012 #20
Funny you should mention the "you jerk" reaction. Kath1 Aug 2012 #21
You're dad's reaction Reagan's appearance... a la izquierda Aug 2012 #22
Same reaction in my house! Kath1 Aug 2012 #23
BUT... he was likeable. Same with Bush. Curtland1015 Aug 2012 #7
"Who would you rather have a beer with" stupidity. NCarolinawoman Aug 2012 #11
not beer Brainstormy Aug 2012 #29
But neither of these idiots possess the alleged charm and personality of idiot Reagan Tom Ripley Aug 2012 #8
According to John Nichols....Paul Ryan has a good amount of charm..also Stuart G Aug 2012 #9
Ryan is no Raygun Major Nikon Aug 2012 #13
If we need a third party to tell us someone has charm, they don't have charm. (nt) Posteritatis Aug 2012 #28
I have noted, however, that Obama is no Carter. kestrel91316 Aug 2012 #14
Reagan and Shrubbie were LIKEABLE idiots eridani Aug 2012 #16
what gives you the right to speak for me and others? cali Aug 2012 #17
rMoney could have picked PayAttentionFool Aug 2012 #18
Reagan had people skills and had served in the military besides being ex Governor of CA. Motown_Johnny Aug 2012 #19
Reagan pulled stateside service during World War II in the Army Reserve NNN0LHI Aug 2012 #24
But compared to Romney and Ryan he was a much more capable candidate Motown_Johnny Aug 2012 #25
But Jimmy Carter was deeply wounded BlueToTheBone Aug 2012 #26
No Democrat I know is over confident catbyte Aug 2012 #27
 

joeybee12

(56,177 posts)
1. Yup, he was an idiot...
Mon Aug 13, 2012, 04:23 PM
Aug 2012

Pretty lousy president but people are waxing nostalgic because the current crop of Repukes are even worse...knr

Stuart G

(38,410 posts)
6. If they think they can win..with a couple of weeks to go..these rich guys will..
Mon Aug 13, 2012, 04:27 PM
Aug 2012

easily find another billion or so to throw into the pot. And it won't even hurt their bank accounts. If people become saturated by this stuff by the end of September, many people will turn off their TVs and radios and not be affected..maybe...Maybe our side will have
convinced the middle how dangerous the idiots are, and those billions won't count...Maybe..Maybe not..

spooky3

(34,401 posts)
15. agreed. Citizens United threw out all the rules, and Republicans have shown they will do anything
Mon Aug 13, 2012, 06:26 PM
Aug 2012

to keep certain groups from voting, and now have the free rein to do so.

99Forever

(14,524 posts)
5. This pair of weasles ...
Mon Aug 13, 2012, 04:26 PM
Aug 2012

... isn't running against Jimmy Carter. ( A VERY great person, but not much of a hardball politician.)

You can stop wringing your hands now.

JustAnotherGen

(31,780 posts)
10. My mother
Mon Aug 13, 2012, 04:33 PM
Aug 2012

Made that same point yesterday evening in a telephone discussion. And my parents loved loved loved Jimmy Carter. In one year we went from a calm 'viewing of' the CBS evening news to my dad screaming "YOU JERK" every time Reagan appeared on the CBS Evening News.

This isn't Carter v. Reagan. It's FDR (Depression Era, few fundamental changes such as SS were wildly popular - today the Recession and Affordable Health) vs. Landon.

That said - I don't think the original poster is wringing their hands. Anyone who has ever played a competitive sport and played to win - the final period/quarter is where you push the hardest . . . especially when you are up. It's then when you win.

We also have a real problem in PA - and no end result on that one (disenfranchisement of 1.6 millon people) until almost the end of September. Ohio is screwing around with the voting hours of blue districts . . . There's some shenanigans in play here.

Stuart G

(38,410 posts)
12. Yes, I am not wringing my hands. I do think we will probably win. and maybe big..
Mon Aug 13, 2012, 04:40 PM
Aug 2012

But we must never underestimate the ability of our opponents. We must stay focused no matter how incompetent they look. The last 60 days could change things. It may not, but it could. I know that Obama is a better player than Carter. We will see. I just hope they are as incompetent the whole time, not just this time

JustAnotherGen

(31,780 posts)
20. I agree
Wed Aug 15, 2012, 06:21 AM
Aug 2012

And we can't underestimate how they cheated on 2000 and 2004. It's their propensity for cheating that worries me.

Kath1

(4,309 posts)
21. Funny you should mention the "you jerk" reaction.
Wed Aug 15, 2012, 06:38 AM
Aug 2012

I was thinking recently of how me and my roomies groaned, booed and gave the TV the finger every time Reagan came on. We couldn't believe he got elected.

That said, I am cautiously optimistic. It is the Republican history of cheating that worries me.

a la izquierda

(11,791 posts)
22. You're dad's reaction Reagan's appearance...
Wed Aug 15, 2012, 06:45 AM
Aug 2012

sounds like my reaction to Mitt and Paul at every commercial (except it's not "You Jerk," but "F*@$ You!" I live in Ohio, so you can imagine how many time I see those two jagaloons on the TV.

There's not a whole lot of language filters in my house (two adults from New Jersey and no kids).

Curtland1015

(4,404 posts)
7. BUT... he was likeable. Same with Bush.
Mon Aug 13, 2012, 04:28 PM
Aug 2012

To the undecideds anyway... not us. One was a well liked movie star and the other was "the kind of guy you'd like to have a beer with".

I don't think Romney gives anyone the "warm and fuzzies".

NCarolinawoman

(2,825 posts)
11. "Who would you rather have a beer with" stupidity.
Mon Aug 13, 2012, 04:37 PM
Aug 2012

Bush's candidacy DID start that stupid idiotic narrative.

The people who fell for it would have used that very same reasoning to support Warren G. Harding.

Brainstormy

(2,380 posts)
29. not beer
Wed Aug 15, 2012, 04:37 PM
Aug 2012

for one of these candidates anyway. Not even coffee. Personally, Romney doesn't even look like somebody I'd want to have a bottle of spring water with. But the "likeability" quotient isn't what makes Romney dangerous this time. It's Citizens United.

Stuart G

(38,410 posts)
9. According to John Nichols....Paul Ryan has a good amount of charm..also
Mon Aug 13, 2012, 04:31 PM
Aug 2012

another political pundit on our side, this morning, on Stephanie Miller's show, said the same thing about Ryan...I am sure some of you heard what I heard..

Major Nikon

(36,818 posts)
13. Ryan is no Raygun
Mon Aug 13, 2012, 04:55 PM
Aug 2012

Raygun was the ideal political candidate. He was an actor who could read a script and he almost never went off script. For his handlers it was the next best thing to having their hand up the back of a puppet. If reporters asked Raygun a question, he would simply repeat some canned statement.

Ryan's problem is that if reporters ask him a question, he's going to tell them what he thinks, and that's what's going to get him in trouble.

eridani

(51,907 posts)
16. Reagan and Shrubbie were LIKEABLE idiots
Tue Aug 14, 2012, 04:18 AM
Aug 2012

Big difference. That said, there is so much racist hate out there that we can't take anything for granted.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
17. what gives you the right to speak for me and others?
Tue Aug 14, 2012, 04:20 AM
Aug 2012

FYI, I'm not euphoric. I'm cautiously optimistic.

Better to speak for yourself.

 

PayAttentionFool

(57 posts)
18. rMoney could have picked
Tue Aug 14, 2012, 06:37 AM
Aug 2012

A. Hitler and he would still be guaranteed 45-48 percent of the vote.

That is what he will get come Nov, 45%-48% of the vote, yes this country is that divided and racist.

rMoney has a big advantage 30+ years of the Southern Strategy and the gutting of education in the red states for the last 30 years also helps Mitt.

Ignorant, Superstitious people are easier to control and deceive.

 

Motown_Johnny

(22,308 posts)
19. Reagan had people skills and had served in the military besides being ex Governor of CA.
Tue Aug 14, 2012, 06:46 AM
Aug 2012


Plus having been a movie star, people were comfortable that they knew him well and had known him for decades.


H.W. not only served in the military but was the youngest U.S. pilot to survive being shot down in the Pacific during WWII. He was also former head of the CIA (if only for a short time) and had run for President himself, having passed the Commander In Chief hurdle on his own.


This ticket is not Reagan/Bush. Not even close.

NNN0LHI

(67,190 posts)
24. Reagan pulled stateside service during World War II in the Army Reserve
Wed Aug 15, 2012, 08:00 AM
Aug 2012

And his "people skills", consisted mainly of using racist dog whistles to attract the bigots.

Don

BlueToTheBone

(3,747 posts)
26. But Jimmy Carter was deeply wounded
Wed Aug 15, 2012, 04:22 PM
Aug 2012

by the primary and he was not in the position of strength like President Obama.

catbyte

(34,326 posts)
27. No Democrat I know is over confident
Wed Aug 15, 2012, 04:34 PM
Aug 2012

Although, it IS looking much better now that Ryan is on the ticket. If Medicare fades as an issue, however, we can pivot to Ryan being Mr. Personhood. He co-sponsored a Personhood bill in Congress. Christ on a cracker Romney is dumb. There's a 16 point gender gap now. I predict it will be at least 25 points by November 6. If we can counteract GOP voter supression & get the word out about Governor Let's-Kill-Planned-Parenthood & Representative Personhood, the President will be re-elected in a landslide based on female outrage alone.

Diane
Anishinaabe in MI

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