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Le Gaucher

(1,547 posts)
Tue Oct 9, 2018, 01:08 PM Oct 2018

What has surprised you most about the Trump Presidency?



I am surprised at the resilience of his support. I really thought when people see for themselves who Trump is - his rating would be in the 20's.

I am surprised the Orange bastard is still president.. and sad that our country has so many racists.

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What has surprised you most about the Trump Presidency? (Original Post) Le Gaucher Oct 2018 OP
I am seriously surprised by the Republicans in congress being so compliant rurallib Oct 2018 #1
That he is still alive given the hatred he has stirred up. Not advocating his demise. olegramps Oct 2018 #36
he's succeeding for them beyond their wildest dreams. Immigration, voting rights, environment, judge Demovictory9 Oct 2018 #75
This. No dissenters among them. Lockstep - under threat? Blackmail? Bribes? Nt lostnfound Oct 2018 #88
nothing really. JHan Oct 2018 #2
Same here. Garrett78 Oct 2018 #39
Me too happy feet Oct 2018 #93
Me too. zentrum Oct 2018 #99
Learning that the rapeublican party hates democracy. onecaliberal Oct 2018 #3
Yeah Hekate Oct 2018 #106
The level of his support, by the idiots and the traitors in the Senate and Congress. Autumn Oct 2018 #4
I though this support would slowly erode as well NewJeffCT Oct 2018 #5
What do you mean, "Obama economy"? I've been told by the Trumpers Arkansas Granny Oct 2018 #14
The economy is strong Johnny2X2X Oct 2018 #25
That is the truth of it Rural_Progressive Oct 2018 #97
Surprised that the party of patriotism is actually Iliyah Oct 2018 #6
I'm surprised that Republicans who I had previously regarded as fairly moderate Arkansas Granny Oct 2018 #7
I was surprised to find out that one in every three Americans is a Nazi FiveGoodMen Oct 2018 #8
+1 violetpastille Oct 2018 #9
I'm surprised at how evil he is. Not just mean and petty, but pure evil. LastLiberal in PalmSprings Oct 2018 #10
It's his vengefulness and cruelty that really shocks me. SharonAnn Oct 2018 #83
A toss up gratuitous Oct 2018 #11
That We Allowed the Damned Thing to Exist in the First Place. The_Counsel Oct 2018 #12
The outright lying and deception thegoose Oct 2018 #13
Not only do they accept his lies, they reject provable facts. Arkansas Granny Oct 2018 #18
agree Hamlette Oct 2018 #82
when those deplorables look in the mirror, they see a person as deplorable as them. spanone Oct 2018 #15
I was surprised to learn that my sister is a moron C_U_L8R Oct 2018 #16
I'm surprised Sunny Daze Oct 2018 #17
Everything! In It to Win It Oct 2018 #19
Spineless lackey republican support at 99.9% IADEMO2004 Oct 2018 #20
I had no idea how deeply ignorant and stupid he is. Greybnk48 Oct 2018 #21
I am not surprised at the... Mike Nelson Oct 2018 #22
That republicans believe everything that comes out of his mouth In It to Win It Oct 2018 #23
How little the GOP seems to care about the fact that history will vilify them as traitors and malchickiwick Oct 2018 #24
History is written by the winners FiveGoodMen Oct 2018 #58
That people that I love still support him. Funtatlaguy Oct 2018 #26
The complicity of corporate media Achilleaze Oct 2018 #27
+1000 yonder Oct 2018 #63
The fear he seems to instill in so many people. redstatebluegirl Oct 2018 #28
How the American people have allowed one man Boomerproud Oct 2018 #29
I'm surprised an unindicted co conspirator can make SCOTUS appointments ProudLib72 Oct 2018 #30
Agreed .. Never realized that our democracy is so fragile and hackable. Le Gaucher Oct 2018 #35
I can't say surprised. But to the extent that so many can't be bothered Guy Whitey Corngood Oct 2018 #31
Yep Runningdawg Oct 2018 #72
The economy. n/t egduj Oct 2018 #32
That the Fascist ignorant perverted pig ever got past the primaries... magicarpet Oct 2018 #33
Agreed. I was looking forward to them seeing the reality of this loser. Power 2 the People Oct 2018 #34
Not much sarisataka Oct 2018 #37
How fast he is destroying everything the United States stands for woodsprite Oct 2018 #38
This. And the prevalence of outright unhinged bigotry he has unleashed. JudyM Oct 2018 #96
Surprised how the Republican party is going along with the craziness TNLib Oct 2018 #40
I'm surprised that people are so damn greedy. Bluepinky Oct 2018 #41
The fact that Republicans ... NanceGreggs Oct 2018 #42
The fact that Trump is such an awful shit... skypilot Oct 2018 #43
Lowering or eliminating the traditional norms and standards that are the foundation procon Oct 2018 #44
Great post. "Barbarians who enjoy cruelty"--sounds like raccoon Oct 2018 #118
Well said! Worth an OP. Nt raccoon Oct 2018 #129
That after all he's done, he's still in office. nt TwistOneUp Oct 2018 #45
That some people just can't be bothered to give a shit about him The Genealogist Oct 2018 #46
It is sort of like being a Kardashian presidency... SeattleVet Oct 2018 #48
I often feel like I am trapped in some reality show The Genealogist Oct 2018 #55
I was extremely surprised when he won his first primary. SeattleVet Oct 2018 #47
Yes. And Bloomberg was right on target when LuckyLib Oct 2018 #122
That he is more incompetent and fucked up then I thought him to be. Kaleva Oct 2018 #49
Conspiracy theories get the red out Oct 2018 #50
How quickly lies become the norm... and almost become the truth lancelyons Oct 2018 #51
Surprised lsewpershad Oct 2018 #52
That he is nasty and vicious and mean and untruthful and irrational and incoherent and stupid The Velveteen Ocelot Oct 2018 #53
I thought his level of viciousness would subside when he became president Poiuyt Oct 2018 #112
His stupidity and lack of management skills. Sneederbunk Oct 2018 #54
That Sean Hannity... In It to Win It Oct 2018 #56
A douchebag college dropout has the ear of the man with the codes. A HERETIC I AM Oct 2018 #59
pretty much what you said Mosby Oct 2018 #57
How deeply it would hurt. FM123 Oct 2018 #60
Oh yes! Cousin Dupree Oct 2018 #62
That it even exists!!! k8conant Oct 2018 #61
His support among more conventional Republican politicians yurbud Oct 2018 #64
That there is such a thing as a Trump presidency. Different Drummer Oct 2018 #65
How angry I am ellie Oct 2018 #66
Sadly Turin_C3PO Oct 2018 #67
This Applies RobinA Oct 2018 #68
I lost a $50 bet at work for betting that he would not win. Le Gaucher Oct 2018 #71
Ever Since RobinA Oct 2018 #89
Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 2018 #69
How much I see him everyday... In It to Win It Oct 2018 #70
For Me... Leith Oct 2018 #73
Russian kompromat. Rs and Ds were hacked. Trump has R kompromat Arazi Oct 2018 #80
Hilary Clinton and the Democrats erpowers Oct 2018 #74
That a narcissistic fool that loves only himself would be ALLOWED to destroy Freethinker65 Oct 2018 #76
That so many people have so little regard for truth. nt LAS14 Oct 2018 #77
That he doesn't appear to like war Polybius Oct 2018 #78
I still worry that he's going to start a war to improve his poll numbers Poiuyt Oct 2018 #111
If he leaves the Presidency without a war, it will be the only time I give him credit Polybius Oct 2018 #114
I agree that Bush 2 was the worst president Poiuyt Oct 2018 #121
Not a G.D. thing. Cha Oct 2018 #79
No surprises..#Cult45 and #TrumpTraitorCo are as bad as predicted Arazi Oct 2018 #81
The Amount Of Stupid Kool-Aid Drinkers This Fucker Attracts Grassy Knoll Oct 2018 #84
I think Meowmee Oct 2018 #85
I'm surprised and amazed at the level of anger and hatred he's brought out in our country. Totally Tunsie Oct 2018 #86
His Korean policy soryang Oct 2018 #87
That he has shown no signs of growing into the role and LibDemAlways Oct 2018 #90
I must say ...you had pretty high hopes for the nincompoop. Le Gaucher Oct 2018 #91
Not really high hopes. It's just that LibDemAlways Oct 2018 #92
That he has hung in there this long Buckeyeblue Oct 2018 #94
Administrative incompetence Jim Lane Oct 2018 #95
I am surprised that zentrum Oct 2018 #98
I am surprised at how much he has changed me. Ms. Toad Oct 2018 #100
Same here. Turin_C3PO Oct 2018 #102
The depth of his corruption riverwalker Oct 2018 #101
That he has as much R support as Reagan did. fallout87 Oct 2018 #103
I am surprised this is even a question. sellitman Oct 2018 #104
It shocked me how FAST the takeover was. It happened so damned fast. Like someone took a crowbar... Hekate Oct 2018 #105
It's exactly what Republicans did to North Carolina when they took over in 2010. SMC22307 Oct 2018 #107
Atomic bombs have not exploded anywhere. raging moderate Oct 2018 #108
The fact that he managed to come in far under my low expectations DFW Oct 2018 #109
that the US is so ill-protected against tyranny A-Schwarzenegger Oct 2018 #110
That two years later, he lies more, more criminal allegations, proves stupidity, illiteracy Skruffy Oct 2018 #113
The obsession with him Raine Oct 2018 #115
I'm surprised at just how bad he is in every way. I knew it wouldn't be good, but Vinca Oct 2018 #116
Hmmm.. Dorian Gray Oct 2018 #117
TAKEOVER!!!!!! afp2 Oct 2018 #119
well rtracey Oct 2018 #120
Nothing nini Oct 2018 #123
That Trump has enabled his supporters to be abusive jackasses. Initech Oct 2018 #124
The open racism is really shocking Gothmog Oct 2018 #125
That one time Turbineguy Oct 2018 #126
I'll be surprised if the @$$hole doesn't win re election for a 2nd term. CentralMass Oct 2018 #127
that people I've known for decades Kurt V. Oct 2018 #128
The number of women that support him. nt RandiFan1290 Oct 2018 #130
I'm surprised he hasn't started a war with Iran or N. Korea to whip up his approval numbers Va Lefty Oct 2018 #131

rurallib

(62,406 posts)
1. I am seriously surprised by the Republicans in congress being so compliant
Tue Oct 9, 2018, 01:10 PM
Oct 2018

have never seen such a bunch of cowards in congress before.

olegramps

(8,200 posts)
36. That he is still alive given the hatred he has stirred up. Not advocating his demise.
Tue Oct 9, 2018, 01:54 PM
Oct 2018

Keep him around with the hope that people will finally wise up that he is a charlatan and conman. But I won't hold my breath. A quick glance at his supporters dispels any hope for a quick recovery. They are as low class as he is regardless of how much money they have. Most are just ignorant useful idiots of the sort that Jones convinced to kill themselves. That is just how damn stupid they are and will gladly vote their own destruction as the wealthy laugh themselves sick at the fools.

Demovictory9

(32,445 posts)
75. he's succeeding for them beyond their wildest dreams. Immigration, voting rights, environment, judge
Tue Oct 9, 2018, 10:12 PM
Oct 2018

he's turning back the clock like no one else. and he's not afraid to show that he's a bigot thug

JHan

(10,173 posts)
2. nothing really.
Tue Oct 9, 2018, 01:10 PM
Oct 2018

I expected the worst and we haven't reached the bottom yet with him.

And I expected his support would never dip below 30%.

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
5. I though this support would slowly erode as well
Tue Oct 9, 2018, 01:13 PM
Oct 2018

I think the Obama economy has kept him as high as he's been, plus his ability to reach his followers directly via Twitter.

Arkansas Granny

(31,513 posts)
14. What do you mean, "Obama economy"? I've been told by the Trumpers
Tue Oct 9, 2018, 01:20 PM
Oct 2018

that Trump alone is responsible for the growing economy. They argue that the economy was in terrible shape when Trump took office and he singlehandedly turned it around.

All hail the mighty Trump.

Johnny2X2X

(19,024 posts)
25. The economy is strong
Tue Oct 9, 2018, 01:39 PM
Oct 2018

And Obama brought us to here and Trump sold the farm to boost it even more. We're on borrowed time for a recession though.

Once the inevitable recession begins his support will plummet. We're over a decade without a recession, we're due for one no matter who is in charge.

Rural_Progressive

(1,105 posts)
97. That is the truth of it
Wed Oct 10, 2018, 06:30 PM
Oct 2018

they've been propping it up for the whole time Donnie O's been in office. People have been afraid to rock the boat and screw up their pension checks, dividend checks, 401ks, etc.

The problem with propping up an economy is it just falls that much harder and further when the artificial supports are pulled. We'll see if they can get it leveled out before the midterms or that could be it for the GOP.

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
6. Surprised that the party of patriotism is actually
Tue Oct 9, 2018, 01:13 PM
Oct 2018

the party of treason. That the USA's citizens that screamed the loudest on freedom and flag actually believes the opposite.

Arkansas Granny

(31,513 posts)
7. I'm surprised that Republicans who I had previously regarded as fairly moderate
Tue Oct 9, 2018, 01:13 PM
Oct 2018

have fallen all over themselves to get on board the Trump Train. Im especially surprised at those who came out as vehemently opposed to him during the primaries.

10. I'm surprised at how evil he is. Not just mean and petty, but pure evil.
Tue Oct 9, 2018, 01:18 PM
Oct 2018

Destroying all the institutions -- domestic and globally -- which have served our country for decades is the act of an evil man. I have never known a man who makes everything about himself, nor one who lies with every breath.

Like I said, evil. I had expected ignorant and misguided, but this is willful chaos he is creating just because that's how he likes his life.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
11. A toss up
Tue Oct 9, 2018, 01:18 PM
Oct 2018

A toss up between the naked corruption of the administration and the supine response to that corruption by congressional Republicans. I thought the administration would at least try to be more discreet, and that the Republicans in Congress would at least pretend to be appalled.

 

thegoose

(3,115 posts)
13. The outright lying and deception
Tue Oct 9, 2018, 01:19 PM
Oct 2018

By Dumpster and the rest of the filthy party. And people just accept it. It makes me crazy!

Hamlette

(15,411 posts)
82. agree
Tue Oct 9, 2018, 11:05 PM
Oct 2018

the day of the inauguration I was shocked that 1. we were talking size of crowd, and 2 they were spreading obvious lies.

C_U_L8R

(44,997 posts)
16. I was surprised to learn that my sister is a moron
Tue Oct 9, 2018, 01:22 PM
Oct 2018

She's out there spreading the Trumpstain gospel... racist bullshit and all.
My brothers and sisters are all scratching our heads wondering what went wrong.

Sunny Daze

(209 posts)
17. I'm surprised
Tue Oct 9, 2018, 01:22 PM
Oct 2018

he is still getting away with every single lie he spews and crime he’s committed. Most of all that so many people I thought of as “normal” before all this are in reality hatefilled racists is the biggest surprise. I’ve given up thinking, “Just wait until they hear what he has done this time! Now they will see what he’s like.” They just turn everything right around and blame the democrats EVERY. SINGLE. TIME.

In It to Win It

(8,231 posts)
19. Everything!
Tue Oct 9, 2018, 01:25 PM
Oct 2018

That this is what the Republican Party has turned to. All these people that said they won’t support trump kissed the ring when he won.

Greybnk48

(10,167 posts)
21. I had no idea how deeply ignorant and stupid he is.
Tue Oct 9, 2018, 01:30 PM
Oct 2018

I'm also shocked by his racism, and savage, callous cruelty toward people in need like Puerto Rico.

Edited to add: And the lying!!

Mike Nelson

(9,951 posts)
22. I am not surprised at the...
Tue Oct 9, 2018, 01:35 PM
Oct 2018

… resilience of his support among the Deplorables. They believe Obama wasn't born in the US. They believe Clinton is a murderer... But I am surprised that many Republicans are going along for the ride. They are going to crash.

In It to Win It

(8,231 posts)
23. That republicans believe everything that comes out of his mouth
Tue Oct 9, 2018, 01:36 PM
Oct 2018

The guy lies more than any other politician and yet yet they call Hillary a liar.

malchickiwick

(1,474 posts)
24. How little the GOP seems to care about the fact that history will vilify them as traitors and
Tue Oct 9, 2018, 01:39 PM
Oct 2018

quislings.

I assumed that some of these GOP leaders cared about their legacies and how they will be remembered in our history books. But no. They seem not to care that they will make Benedict Arnold and Joe McCarthy look like veritable saints next to them.

FiveGoodMen

(20,018 posts)
58. History is written by the winners
Tue Oct 9, 2018, 02:40 PM
Oct 2018

If we don't stop these Nazis soon, they'll be able to write any "history", giving them any "legacy" that they want.

No one will be able to prove that they're lying.

It will not be safe to try to prove that.

Achilleaze

(15,543 posts)
27. The complicity of corporate media
Tue Oct 9, 2018, 01:43 PM
Oct 2018

corporate media does not serve the citizens of the USA. They are - especially TV - a disgrace.

redstatebluegirl

(12,265 posts)
28. The fear he seems to instill in so many people.
Tue Oct 9, 2018, 01:43 PM
Oct 2018

The Republicans are terrified of a twitter storm to the point they will do anything he wants.

ProudLib72

(17,984 posts)
30. I'm surprised an unindicted co conspirator can make SCOTUS appointments
Tue Oct 9, 2018, 01:44 PM
Oct 2018

So surprised that there seem to be absolutely zero checks on presidential power. I never realized how flimsy our governmental institutions always were.

Runningdawg

(4,516 posts)
72. Yep
Tue Oct 9, 2018, 04:23 PM
Oct 2018

I thought we would be seeing multiple protest across the country every single day. In cities AND smaller towns. I expected to see more than just a few senators and people from the administration getting hassled in public. I expected the decent people to hold media to a higher standard. I expected to see people continue to protest at his rallies. But here we are....

magicarpet

(14,144 posts)
33. That the Fascist ignorant perverted pig ever got past the primaries...
Tue Oct 9, 2018, 01:47 PM
Oct 2018

.... and then elected in the general.

Power 2 the People

(2,437 posts)
34. Agreed. I was looking forward to them seeing the reality of this loser.
Tue Oct 9, 2018, 01:49 PM
Oct 2018

But:

"We don't need someone who can think. We need someone with enough digits to hold a pen." - Grover Norquist

It ended up being the Republican dream come true. Their monstrous media machine has anointed him "the chosen one."

sarisataka

(18,570 posts)
37. Not much
Tue Oct 9, 2018, 01:55 PM
Oct 2018

I figured he might but heads with Congressional Republicans more, but they seem happy to hang on his coattails

woodsprite

(11,910 posts)
38. How fast he is destroying everything the United States stands for
Tue Oct 9, 2018, 01:56 PM
Oct 2018

and our institutions, and how not a single GOP congressman or cabinet member feels one bit of responsibility, sense of duty, self-respect, or obligation to our country and the American people.

I question whether we'll ever recover.

TNLib

(1,819 posts)
40. Surprised how the Republican party is going along with the craziness
Tue Oct 9, 2018, 01:57 PM
Oct 2018

and tied themselves so close to Trumpism. It's like watching the Titanic go down.

Bluepinky

(2,268 posts)
41. I'm surprised that people are so damn greedy.
Tue Oct 9, 2018, 01:59 PM
Oct 2018

They will apparently accept and believe anything as long as they think they’re benefiting financially.

One of my colleagues at work told me how she’s getting more money each week since the “tax cuts” passed (which I’m sure isn’t true). She and others like her can accept any atrocity Trump causes, as long as they think they’re helped by it. Who cares about anyone else, they sure don’t.

NanceGreggs

(27,813 posts)
42. The fact that Republicans ...
Tue Oct 9, 2018, 01:59 PM
Oct 2018

... who always put party above country, are willing to put Trump above party.

I really thought they'd be more aware of their own undoing at the hands of an idiot.

skypilot

(8,852 posts)
43. The fact that Trump is such an awful shit...
Tue Oct 9, 2018, 02:01 PM
Oct 2018

...that the Republicans finally dared to dust off George W. and trot him out to stump for Kavanaugh.

procon

(15,805 posts)
44. Lowering or eliminating the traditional norms and standards that are the foundation
Tue Oct 9, 2018, 02:03 PM
Oct 2018

Of our society. Everything that was ever known as acceptable, civilised behavior has been replaced by barbarians who enjoy cruelty and raging vulgarity. I shouldn't be surprised that so many conservatives, who once preached about their superior family values and godliness, support this opposite behavior now.

The Genealogist

(4,723 posts)
46. That some people just can't be bothered to give a shit about him
Tue Oct 9, 2018, 02:09 PM
Oct 2018

His destroying the nation, alienating allies, acting crudely, all the kind of thing I expected. What surprises me is that there is a huge swath of people in this country who just don't care. Politics is boring. Politicians are all the same. People who care more about the Kardashians or their trendy TV shows than they do about their country. It isnt effecting them yet ways they notice, so why bother. How someone can watch this trainwreck and be so apathetic really suprises me.

SeattleVet

(5,477 posts)
48. It is sort of like being a Kardashian presidency...
Tue Oct 9, 2018, 02:11 PM
Oct 2018

essentially, they are both really only famous for being rich and famous.

The Genealogist

(4,723 posts)
55. I often feel like I am trapped in some reality show
Tue Oct 9, 2018, 02:25 PM
Oct 2018

I have seen only snippets of reality shows, but as I understand them, the whole point is to get awful, fake people on TV to stab each other on the back, and gossip about each other. You're supposed to cheer for your favorite backstabber. I feel like much of American society has descended to this kind of base behavior. Strength is equated with being the loudest and most hateful, decency is weakness.

SeattleVet

(5,477 posts)
47. I was extremely surprised when he won his first primary.
Tue Oct 9, 2018, 02:09 PM
Oct 2018

Then when he went on to blast through the rest of the repuke field, I was totally puzzled at how this dolt did it.

Thee I was completely floored when he was declared the winner in the general election.

Having lived in NYC during the 80's, I had seen what a complete bullshitting asshole he was, close-up, and (wrongly) assumed that everyone else could see it, too, since he had always been so blatant about showing how much of a clueless, entitled turd he was.

Now I'm mostly surprised that Mueller hasn't already finished his work and issued a complete, airtight damning report laying out every illegal act that the asshole's campaign and administration has done.

LuckyLib

(6,819 posts)
122. Yes. And Bloomberg was right on target when
Thu Oct 11, 2018, 02:44 PM
Oct 2018

he said “New Yorkers know a con when they see one.” He couldn’t get the time of day from financial houses and vendors who knew what a sleazy liar he was. He turned to Russians desperate to park their money.

get the red out

(13,461 posts)
50. Conspiracy theories
Tue Oct 9, 2018, 02:13 PM
Oct 2018

Conspiracy theories from RW hate radio that were generally just alluded to in Congress and the Senate are now stated as FACT! The crazy "paid protesters" crap is an example. In the age of Trump, trying to sound somewhat sane when in official mode is no longer even desirable.

 

lancelyons

(988 posts)
51. How quickly lies become the norm... and almost become the truth
Tue Oct 9, 2018, 02:21 PM
Oct 2018

The idea that you can repeat a lie enough and it becomes a truth is apparently real.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,661 posts)
53. That he is nasty and vicious and mean and untruthful and irrational and incoherent and stupid
Tue Oct 9, 2018, 02:25 PM
Oct 2018

(often all of those things at the same time) and millions of people are convinced he's wonderful.

Mosby

(16,297 posts)
57. pretty much what you said
Tue Oct 9, 2018, 02:40 PM
Oct 2018

It's like a third of the country have lost their minds.

Their deep hatred for liberals has blinded and brainwashed them.

FM123

(10,053 posts)
60. How deeply it would hurt.
Tue Oct 9, 2018, 02:44 PM
Oct 2018

I expected the anger.
I never expected how painful it would be to have him in the White House ruining our country. Every. Single. Day.

k8conant

(3,030 posts)
61. That it even exists!!!
Tue Oct 9, 2018, 02:46 PM
Oct 2018

I also thought he would keep on being a clown and a lout instead of the devil incarnate.

yurbud

(39,405 posts)
64. His support among more conventional Republican politicians
Tue Oct 9, 2018, 03:40 PM
Oct 2018

although I think that is because they see him as a useful idiot with the accent on idiot. He's too unreliable to be called useful.

Different Drummer

(7,612 posts)
65. That there is such a thing as a Trump presidency.
Tue Oct 9, 2018, 03:41 PM
Oct 2018

I'd have thought people would have had better sense than to make such a bizarre notion a reality. I guess I overestimated the intelligence of the American citizenry.

ellie

(6,929 posts)
66. How angry I am
Tue Oct 9, 2018, 03:41 PM
Oct 2018

I thought I was pissed during Shrub but I find myself screaming at the TV. Also, I hate my repukes more. They get no quarter from me.

Turin_C3PO

(13,952 posts)
67. Sadly
Tue Oct 9, 2018, 03:54 PM
Oct 2018

Not much has surprised me regarding Trump or his base of deplorables. I guess I’m a little surprised that congress has been so compliant. I thought some Republicans would push back.

RobinA

(9,888 posts)
68. This Applies
Tue Oct 9, 2018, 03:54 PM
Oct 2018

to him as President and candidate. I am surprised by the number of people who support him. Including several members of my own family. I was one who said he could never get elected.

RobinA

(9,888 posts)
89. Ever Since
Wed Oct 10, 2018, 08:26 AM
Oct 2018

I predicted that Bush Jr would never get past the primary I gave up betting on how much the GOP voter would overlook. However, even given my schooling that time, Trump, or rather his voters, blindsided me.

Response to Le Gaucher (Original post)

In It to Win It

(8,231 posts)
70. How much I see him everyday...
Tue Oct 9, 2018, 04:08 PM
Oct 2018

Every. Fucking. Day.

Trump does something stupid
Trump says something stupid
Trump rallies in West Virginia
Trump reversed something
Trump says Democrats are evil
Trump denies something he said
Trump rallies in West Virginia
Trump spews out meaningless words that makes no sense
Trump says fuck our allies
Trump gives a bailout to farmers
Trump is the President of the United States
Trump rallies in West Virginia
TRUMP GETS TO APPOINT ANOTHER SUPREME COURT JUSTICE!!!

What the hell did we do?!?!??

I need a competent boring president; one that I don’t have to monitor all the time.

Leith

(7,808 posts)
73. For Me...
Tue Oct 9, 2018, 07:52 PM
Oct 2018

It is how former fervent anti-chump rethugs have one little meeting with him and turn into rah-rah chump boosters. For example, Lindsey Graham was anti until he played golf with the orange one. Now Lindsey is the most vocal chimp in the herd. Ted Cruz is another - never mind insulting his wife and father, he supports his pRez.

wtf is wrong with them?!

erpowers

(9,350 posts)
74. Hilary Clinton and the Democrats
Tue Oct 9, 2018, 10:06 PM
Oct 2018

I am most surprised by how right Hilary Clinton and the Democrats have been about Donald Trump and the results of his policies. The Democrats were just about 100% right about the results of the tax cuts. I did not expect the Democrats to be so right about the tax cuts. Just about everything Hilary Clinton said about Donald Trump's presidency has been proven right. She has been so right about Donald Trump's presidency that I am wondering if she was getting intelligence reports about him during the campaign. I do not think she, or President Obama did anything wrong during the election. I think former Presidents get daily briefings. So, maybe President Clinton was getting daily intelligence briefing that contained information about Donald Trump.

Freethinker65

(10,009 posts)
76. That a narcissistic fool that loves only himself would be ALLOWED to destroy
Tue Oct 9, 2018, 10:27 PM
Oct 2018

To destroy so much that was good about my country so fast

Polybius

(15,372 posts)
78. That he doesn't appear to like war
Tue Oct 9, 2018, 10:45 PM
Oct 2018

Last edited Wed Oct 10, 2018, 12:42 AM - Edit history (1)

With his narcissist personality, I thought it would be a given.

Poiuyt

(18,122 posts)
111. I still worry that he's going to start a war to improve his poll numbers
Thu Oct 11, 2018, 12:27 AM
Oct 2018

In fact, I'll be surprised if he doesn't

Polybius

(15,372 posts)
114. If he leaves the Presidency without a war, it will be the only time I give him credit
Thu Oct 11, 2018, 12:44 AM
Oct 2018

Until that time, he’s not getting any. With that being said, unlike some here, I still put little Bush as the worst President ever. Trump can still beat him out, but I’m putting him at 2 for now.

Poiuyt

(18,122 posts)
121. I agree that Bush 2 was the worst president
Thu Oct 11, 2018, 12:04 PM
Oct 2018

For Trump to beat him out for that position, he would need to do something that damages the US on the world stage in a concrete way. Right now, it's mostly our reputation that's been hit. I think it will take a few years to see what damage can be blamed on his policies like tariffs, environment, deregulation, withdrawing from Iran and Paris Climate agreements, etc.

I will say that Trump will be considered the most corrupt and unethical president in US history.

Grassy Knoll

(10,118 posts)
84. The Amount Of Stupid Kool-Aid Drinkers This Fucker Attracts
Tue Oct 9, 2018, 11:42 PM
Oct 2018

Total Garbage Brains In America-Astounding, The Hate For Opposing Views-My Way Or The Highway Fucks
No Way For America To Survive Without Another Civil War, And It Seems That's What They Want, Bring It!!

Meowmee

(5,164 posts)
85. I think
Wed Oct 10, 2018, 12:01 AM
Oct 2018

It is the media still going along with normalization of all of this in a large way. They attack and then they take 5 steps back. I’m just terrified this is never going to end, that no one and nothing is going to challenge and fight to stop this illegetimate pos and his band of crooks and traitors and succeed. The corruption is so widespread, that was another surprise, the whole Russia involvement not just in his businesses but in much of the R party.

Totally Tunsie

(10,885 posts)
86. I'm surprised and amazed at the level of anger and hatred he's brought out in our country.
Wed Oct 10, 2018, 12:10 AM
Oct 2018

There's no much rage in so many people. It's very frightening. I see it everyday in stores, on the road, and certainly on the TV news. People are surly and quick to flare.

I'm surprised that the RepubliCONS just line up behind him and support him, no matter how outlandish his positions might be.

I'm surprised at just how ignorant and hateful he and his family really are.

I'm tired of the sound of his voice, especially when they show clips of his endless self-serving rallies. I hate that he spews his lies to his audience and projects the characteristics of the crazed right onto the Democrats, such as tonight's claim that the Dems are too dangerous to govern, when the opposite is the truth.

I'm amazed that no one has made a serious attempt at harming him, and I'm embarrassed that I wouldn't care.

I'm stunned at how much he enrages me.

soryang

(3,299 posts)
87. His Korean policy
Wed Oct 10, 2018, 12:12 AM
Oct 2018

For whatever reason, he is following the South Korean lead, in spite of the almost universal hostility of US defense establishment insiders, the national security echo chamber, and the fierce opposition in the press. This South Korean administration is probably the most progressive South Korean administration in history.



LibDemAlways

(15,139 posts)
90. That he has shown no signs of growing into the role and
Wed Oct 10, 2018, 08:58 AM
Oct 2018

that he holds those stupid rallies. He truly thinks a US President is only President of those who voted for him and everybody else can go to hell. History will not be kind.

LibDemAlways

(15,139 posts)
92. Not really high hopes. It's just that
Wed Oct 10, 2018, 11:11 AM
Oct 2018

the weight of the responsibility generally makes an impact. When he met with Obama after the election, he seemed somewhat subdued and when asked by an interviewer if he would continue to tweet, he said he might not. I took those as indications that maybe he would treat the job with at least a small amount of respect. Obviously, he's incapable of same. He's just a big unruly bully in a china shop - smashing everything he sees because he can, and his mindless followers cheer him every step of the way.

Buckeyeblue

(5,499 posts)
94. That he has hung in there this long
Wed Oct 10, 2018, 11:17 AM
Oct 2018

I know he loves the attention but it seems like he would have lost interest in being president by now. He could have proclaimed the system broken beyond repair and gone off to create his own tv network.

But as we find out more and more about his dependance on Russia, I don't think he has a choice. Maybe his life, or his lifestyle, depends upon him staying president for two terms.

Otherwise, I think he would have moved on.

 

Jim Lane

(11,175 posts)
95. Administrative incompetence
Wed Oct 10, 2018, 11:49 AM
Oct 2018

I never bought the "brilliant deal-maker" hype. Nevertheless, he did come to the White House with many years of experience in managing the money that daddy left him. I knew that he'd appoint right-wing ideologues, but I just assumed that he'd appoint right-wing ideologues with at least some minimal degree of competence.

The EPA is one example. It was obvious that he'd appoint an industry tool who would attack environmental protections. The surprise was that the tool he picked, Pruitt, turned out to be such a blunderer that he had to resign -- not for any of his myriad policy deficiencies, but for his bungling and corruption. And he's not an outlier. That's on top of all the posts that haven't even been filled.

This might count as a pleasant surprise. Someone like Pence probably wouldn't have made these mistakes, and would arguably have done even more damage.

zentrum

(9,865 posts)
98. I am surprised that
Wed Oct 10, 2018, 09:39 PM
Oct 2018

.....his method of chaos, of exhausting us--- is working.

I'm surprised that we aren't having nation-wide strikes every day about Me Too, climate change, loss of health care, student debt, his racism, his cruelty to children and on and on and on.....

I'm surprised that our outrage isn't producing more actions.

Not only pointing fingers. I include myself in this.

Ms. Toad

(34,059 posts)
100. I am surprised at how much he has changed me.
Wed Oct 10, 2018, 10:34 PM
Oct 2018

Just a simple example - I have never, ever, wished someone would just die. I don't know that I actually wish he would die, but it's close enough that I might as well. I want him gone in a way that it is impossible for me to ever have to see or hear him again, and the only "gone" I know of where that is possible is dead.

The fact that he could change something so fundamental in who I am, even if it is only temporary, shocks me to my core. And I don't know how to deal with it.

Turin_C3PO

(13,952 posts)
102. Same here.
Wed Oct 10, 2018, 10:38 PM
Oct 2018

I want him gone in whatever way possible. And I say that with some disappointment in myself for thinking that way. But it is what it is.

Hekate

(90,627 posts)
105. It shocked me how FAST the takeover was. It happened so damned fast. Like someone took a crowbar...
Wed Oct 10, 2018, 10:45 PM
Oct 2018

...and jammed it into every small crack in our system of government and just started to tear it apart.

SMC22307

(8,090 posts)
107. It's exactly what Republicans did to North Carolina when they took over in 2010.
Wed Oct 10, 2018, 10:51 PM
Oct 2018

I detest them, but I'll give them credit -- they know what to do with power when they get it. And they are ALWAYS thinking of the long game...

raging moderate

(4,297 posts)
108. Atomic bombs have not exploded anywhere.
Wed Oct 10, 2018, 11:03 PM
Oct 2018

At least, at this point, atomic bombs have not exploded anywhere yet. I am profoundly grateful to the many unseen heroes who must have worked miracles to prevent this.

Things are not as bad as I had feared they would be.

DFW

(54,330 posts)
109. The fact that he managed to come in far under my low expectations
Wed Oct 10, 2018, 11:06 PM
Oct 2018

They were pretty low to begin with, but sure enough, the damage wrought in less than two years is greater than I would have thought possible in four.

That, and the fact that he has brought out the absolute worst in so many US citizens. Anyone who harbored a latent potential for meanness and hate has been able to let the worst in them explode in all its ugly glory--and find plenty of company to boot. What we thought might become the shining city on the hill turns out to be mud village down on the flats like all the rest, just a little bigger and meaner. There are still pockets of good, but even as a majority, they do not dominate.

 

Skruffy

(48 posts)
113. That two years later, he lies more, more criminal allegations, proves stupidity, illiteracy
Thu Oct 11, 2018, 12:33 AM
Oct 2018

and the harm he causes us all, even the world, that the Republican party has so solidly tied themselves to Trump. And his supporters.

I would never have thought that he could be all this, and have rallied the Republican Party to stand right next to him in the stupid, criminal, perverted of all this man is.

Yes, there has always been the element in the Republican Party, but never so in the face, obvious. Though, denying the SC pick was clear, and people bought that one.

Vinca

(50,255 posts)
116. I'm surprised at just how bad he is in every way. I knew it wouldn't be good, but
Thu Oct 11, 2018, 05:43 AM
Oct 2018

I thought once installed he might ease back on the raving lunatic schtick. If anything, he's gotten worse. Guess it's not a schtick. He's nuts.

Dorian Gray

(13,488 posts)
117. Hmmm..
Thu Oct 11, 2018, 06:16 AM
Oct 2018

That he was even more stupid than I thought?

Seriously, though, I agree with you. The resiliency of his supporters. And the moral and ethical twisting people do to justify their support of the evil that's being perpetrated.

 

rtracey

(2,062 posts)
120. well
Thu Oct 11, 2018, 09:54 AM
Oct 2018

His supporters has not moved much... mostly 30% for the term so far....meaning 70% non or not sure of support. I think the fact that he is an arrogant, narcissistic, sociopathic liar and the House, Senate and Supreme Court are buying into his bullshit. He claims to want to drain the swamp, but he is the swamp. I am hopeful the democrats and independents will turn out to show this clown we mean business. These elected officials have seem to forgotten that the word ELECTED is in their title.... they work for US, not the opposite, and its time we show them who is the boss and who needs to listen..... the government has seem to forgotten all of that.

nini

(16,672 posts)
123. Nothing
Fri Oct 12, 2018, 12:25 AM
Oct 2018

Weve been building up to this for 40 years. They've got what they wanted - no checks and balances. They'll destroy everything achieved since FDR.

Gothmog

(145,079 posts)
125. The open racism is really shocking
Fri Oct 12, 2018, 08:13 AM
Oct 2018

Trump is one of the most racist assholes in the history of the US

Turbineguy

(37,312 posts)
126. That one time
Fri Oct 12, 2018, 08:41 AM
Oct 2018

he was right about something.

Unfortunately, I can't remember the details. But chances are, he was parroting what somebody else told him.

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